Ireland vs All Blacks (2018)
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@snowy said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@kidcalder said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@canefan Laumape?
otherwise Nonu return will be very interestingYou think that he isn't a midfield destroyer? That is what I was replying to.
Yeah he is. Point I'm making is whether he is good enough to be our first choice number 12 and right now I'm not convinced
@canefan said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Yeah he is. Point I'm making is whether he is good enough to be our first choice number 12 and right now I'm not convinced
Yes debatable. I am an ALB fan, so I'd have him and Goodhue.
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Outplayed and out coached by the Irish on the day,no real complaints from me.
Not the end of the world, but I have seen plenty of evidence to suggest signs of staleness within this coaching group.No question it was a points decision to Joe Schmidt after this mornings match and that what’s worrying me
We have the players,but is this coaching group getting the best of out of this group..?
I have often believed if you have several players at their best in a team of 15 there’s a good chance you go on an win.
That’s been a real concern not just in this mornings game,but also last weeks performance against England ,just the lack of our so called world class players standing up and when you consider the All Black coaches pulled out all the stops by taking away 51 players on this tour to protect many of our big guns..
Was it the right strategy..?,based on what we have seen you would have to say no..
Also our discipline when don’t have the ball has been terrible,some of our senior players the real culprits.
What’s that all about..?
Which leads me on to why all the penalties,when you give up ball with a poor kick game against a team like Ireland who can hold on to the ball no matter where they are on the paddock..you have got to ask questions abou strategy and dare I say it captaincy..My apologies if I am sounding like Watto,but I would like to think I have outlined my argument with a degree of thought.
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@canefan said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Yeah he is. Point I'm making is whether he is good enough to be our first choice number 12 and right now I'm not convinced
Yes debatable. I am an ALB fan, so I'd have him and Goodhue.
@snowy said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@canefan said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Yeah he is. Point I'm making is whether he is good enough to be our first choice number 12 and right now I'm not convinced
Yes debatable. I am an ALB fan, so I'd have him and Goodhue.
I like Crotty, ALB and Goodhue. But can they form a balanced unit? I think Goodhue can be tough but he wasn't today. I think many guys were made to look worse because of the game plan
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are we seeing the value of Wayne Smith this year?
Our defence was a weapon forcing the opposition into areas they didnt want, we cause errors and boom, we strike, I suspect he also had a hand in our attack by the way things seem to be panning this year too.
OUr defence this year has been leaky and been outscored 3 tries to 1 in the past 2 weeks...we are often maligned for our attack at all cost gameplan, which seems to have been kicked for touch (or not into touch as seems the case with fucking box kicks)
When would we have last been outscored in the try stakes in 2 matches in the NH? Have we ever?
@taniwharugby said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
are we seeing the value of Wayne Smith this year?
Our defence was a weapon forcing the opposition into areas they didnt want, we cause errors and boom, we strike, I suspect he also had a hand in our attack by the way things seem to be panning this year too.
OUr defence this year has been leaky and been outscored 3 tries to 1 in the past 2 weeks...we are often maligned for our attack at all cost gameplan, which seems to have been kicked for touch (or not into touch as seems the case with fucking box kicks)
When would we have last been outscored in the try stakes in 2 matches in the NH? Have we ever?
Give Wayne what ever he wants
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@canefan said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Yeah he is. Point I'm making is whether he is good enough to be our first choice number 12 and right now I'm not convinced
Yes debatable. I am an ALB fan, so I'd have him and Goodhue.
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@kidcalder said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@snowy I like ALB as a 13, we seem to lack depth there
ALB and Goodhue daylight 3rd?I'd actually have them the other way around? ALB seems to have a kicking game that is better than Jack's. Based on SR not tests.
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@sparky think that was Ben Smith down though wasnt it, so just smart in recognising the space.
THat did have shades of the try we scored v Aus in Japan.
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On the upside,not doubt the world press will be hailing Ireland as the RWC favourites for next year..
Tell you what I don’t mind the underdog tag..!,
But we need to get our shit together ..! -
Well I’m hoping Shag invites Wayne Smith over for a barbie over the break. We need some fresh ideas
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I blame this year's shithouse performances on Labour. We never play well when those fluffybunnies are in power.
@akan004 I blame the Maori party,700,000 registered voters,and only 90,000 got for their arses to go and vote..which would have given a coalition to partner for National..
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Finally an answer to the age old question, "what's the worst test match the All Blacks have ever played?"
What even were the tactics that would win us that game? A lucky bounce from a kick?
There better be a large wad of dry powder somewhere in that All Black camp.
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@rancid-schnitzel that's why I pondered whether it was a conincidence. None of us will really know. We only saw Goodhue taking the ball on the run once and having enough time to pass to Ioane, and that was from a decent Mo'unga pass.
I am not a Barrett hater before anyone accuses me of being one. I am not convinced he is a world cup winning 10.
@crazy-horse said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@rancid-schnitzel that's why I pondered whether it was a conincidence. None of us will really know. We only saw Goodhue taking the ball on the run once and having enough time to pass to Ioane, and that was from a decent Mo'unga pass.
I am not a Barrett hater before anyone accuses me of being one. I am not convinced he is a world cup winning 10.
Well we know he can kick drop goals at least
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What a game, well played Ireland, never let us have a sniff.
Lots of work ons (don’t you love cliches), blindside flanker, midfield, Beaudies inabaility to get the backline running, inability to deal with flat agreesive defence, breakdown, BFA has to play fullback. Few players looking tired, Read, A.Smith, Whitelock. Uncharacteristic errors from a few others, looking at you BBBR.
Will fortify myself for a second viewing.
Is Ireland playing the blue print for World Cup finals rugby? They shaded us in the Scrum and kicking game, beat us up on the defensive line, and took there chance for the try, where we bombed our one chance
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Well I’m hoping Shag invites Wayne Smith over for a barbie over the break. We need some fresh ideas
@jc said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Well I’m hoping Shag invites Wayne Smith over for a barbie over the break. We need some fresh ideas
Henry showed he still has what it takes as defence coach for Auckland, he would be useful too.
Foster is not a great attack coach either, and is a stubborn selector. Might need to keep Hanson but get rid of one of the other two.
We are two years into having the same problems now, and the solution seems to be to stick with what’s notsl working, and double down.
