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  • Victor MeldrewV Away
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    #93

    It's been good to see the Southern hemisphere cooperating so well in Operation "Keep Eddie"....

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      Just saw that Farrell charge. it's at the start of teh Stuff article below (probably region locked).

      I have no idea how that was not a penalty try. He is a very very lucky boy -- the downside is that the controversy could rear it's head at the RWC next year, and he may find some time on the sidelines. Seriously, shaking my head yet again at the lack of consistency in refereeing. No idea how the players cope with random calls from week to week... how the hell do you play to the edge if the edge changes all the time.

      Frustrating times as a neutral who thinks Farrell is a pit of a dick.

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/108848947/owen-farrell-under-fire-for-late-shoulder-charge-as-wallabies-denied-a-penalty-try

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      • TordahT Tordah

        what's up with the England home game post-match interviewer chicks always being such baiting fluffybunnies? I hate cross-eyed Hooper, but he reacted pretty nicely to that fucking bitch

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        #95

        @tordah said in England v Australia:

        what's up with the England home game post-match interviewer chicks always being such baiting fluffybunnies? I hate cross-eyed Hooper, but he reacted pretty nicely to that fucking bitch

        Anyone got a link?

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        • nzzpN nzzp

          Just saw that Farrell charge. it's at the start of teh Stuff article below (probably region locked).

          I have no idea how that was not a penalty try. He is a very very lucky boy -- the downside is that the controversy could rear it's head at the RWC next year, and he may find some time on the sidelines. Seriously, shaking my head yet again at the lack of consistency in refereeing. No idea how the players cope with random calls from week to week... how the hell do you play to the edge if the edge changes all the time.

          Frustrating times as a neutral who thinks Farrell is a pit of a dick.

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/108848947/owen-farrell-under-fire-for-late-shoulder-charge-as-wallabies-denied-a-penalty-try

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          #96

          @nzzp no one's a neutral Vs England!

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          • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

            England should be out of sight.

            And Barnes should be put out to pasture.

            He's like this character

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            #97

            @mikethesnow said in England v Australia:

            England should be out of sight.

            And Barnes should be put out to pasture.

            He's like this character

            I loved the fast show.

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            • Mick Gold Coast QLDM Offline
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              #98

              Well that’s it for the season, on the paddock – now for the recriminations phase.

              I see the call is out to sack Michael Cheika, who must now defend himself over the mediocre, often abysmal, performance by a group of donkeys (who draw a handsome fee for their ugly efforts). Cheika is as highly credentialed as they get in Australia – what more can someone else realistically promise? The elephant in the room is that Cheika is well protected by the most powerful faction at Club level from assassination by any one of several factions in the ARU, interstate, pop-gun pretend interstate, country rugby and the players union. He needs to be because the greatest threat to Australian rugby is from the power brokers and egos within, many otherwise unemployable - there are very few Jones, Macqueens and Cheikas who have demonstrated their capability to carve a fortune elsewhere, and who rugby needs more than they need rugby.

              The players are not coached to drop the ball, to pass it to no-one, to not form a cohesive defence, to miss tackles, to get pushed around the paddock for sometimes 20 metres at a time, to lose their own throw, to not take kicks when they are on offer and to reef it downfield a whole one metre into the outstretched arms of the bloke thundering in from your right who knows that you have no idea what is around you. These are matters of individual fundamental skill and player failure to improve the limited range they offer when they first attend Wallaby training.

              What have those who sit in judgement of the coach done to improve the quality of players available for selection? During the past year and during the past five years? Not much.

              What are they likely to do in the next little while, other than strut their politically correct social justice stuff and modern corporate management model, including a Goth as CEO? Not much. Will they continue to turn up at the pay office to collect their directors fees? Too right they will.

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                #99

                alt text
                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/108848372/woeful-wallabies-thrashed-by-england

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                • nzzpN nzzp

                  Just saw that Farrell charge. it's at the start of teh Stuff article below (probably region locked).

                  I have no idea how that was not a penalty try. He is a very very lucky boy -- the downside is that the controversy could rear it's head at the RWC next year, and he may find some time on the sidelines. Seriously, shaking my head yet again at the lack of consistency in refereeing. No idea how the players cope with random calls from week to week... how the hell do you play to the edge if the edge changes all the time.

                  Frustrating times as a neutral who thinks Farrell is a pit of a dick.

                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/108848947/owen-farrell-under-fire-for-late-shoulder-charge-as-wallabies-denied-a-penalty-try

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                  canefan
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                  #100

                  @nzzp said in England v Australia:

                  Just saw that Farrell charge. it's at the start of teh Stuff article below (probably region locked).

                  I have no idea how that was not a penalty try. He is a very very lucky boy -- the downside is that the controversy could rear it's head at the RWC next year, and he may find some time on the sidelines. Seriously, shaking my head yet again at the lack of consistency in refereeing. No idea how the players cope with random calls from week to week... how the hell do you play to the edge if the edge changes all the time.

                  Frustrating times as a neutral who thinks Farrell is a pit of a dick.

                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/108848947/owen-farrell-under-fire-for-late-shoulder-charge-as-wallabies-denied-a-penalty-try

                  That is a disgraceful non call for the second time in three matches. If that has been an AB on a Pom the screams to lynch him would be as deafening as the expected silence after this incident

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                    #101

                    To be fair a quick read of the article mentions Stuart Barnes and Sir Clive both went on record to say Owen was damn lucky. Not quite as strong as the 'All Blacks shamelessly cynical' narrative

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                      #102

                      I find the way England and Itoje in particular likes to whoop and holler at the opposition's mistakes tiresome. OTOH as sledges go this from Kyle Sinckler isn't too bad: “Mate, you’re all f—-ing snitches anyway”.

                      https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup-2015/news/fing-snitches-england-sledge-aussies-over-beale-saga/news-story/43cff7599e9cff3ac30a816c6f627993

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                      • crossbencherC crossbencher

                        I find the way England and Itoje in particular likes to whoop and holler at the opposition's mistakes tiresome. OTOH as sledges go this from Kyle Sinckler isn't too bad: “Mate, you’re all f—-ing snitches anyway”.

                        https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup-2015/news/fing-snitches-england-sledge-aussies-over-beale-saga/news-story/43cff7599e9cff3ac30a816c6f627993

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                        #103

                        @crossbencher paywalled article, cut n paste?

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                          I saw a video of Daley's try on instagram. My favourite part was Hooper trying to tackle Farrell, and it's so ineffectual it looks like a little kid trying to tackle his older brother.

                          Hooper is just not a great test player. And he's the captain with a giant contract. Defies belief.

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                          • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                            Fuck me Farrell should be off and Penalty Try.

                            Fucking joke.

                            Peyper didn't give it because the ball carrier led with the shoulder.

                            Peyper you fucking muppet.

                            England 13 - 13 Australia
                            Half-time

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                            Bovidae
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                            #105

                            @mikethesnow said in England v Australia:

                            Fuck me Farrell should be off and Penalty Try.

                            Farrell has mastered 2 types of tackles - missed and no arms.

                            But Aussie have big problems in their pack to solve.

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                            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                              I saw a video of Daley's try on instagram. My favourite part was Hooper trying to tackle Farrell, and it's so ineffectual it looks like a little kid trying to tackle his older brother.

                              Hooper is just not a great test player. And he's the captain with a giant contract. Defies belief.

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                              Bovidae
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                              #106

                              @mariner4life To be fair to Hooper he saved a certain try to Cokanasiga on the goal line with a desperation tackle.

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                              • PaekakboyzP Paekakboyz

                                @crossbencher paywalled article, cut n paste?

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                                crossbencher
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                                @paekakboyz Bugger! Didn't realise that when I first landed on it and I'm now paywalled out too. Here's SBS version

                                https://www.sbs.com.au/news/england-prop-s-brutal-sledge-for-wallabies

                                England prop Kyle Sinckler ensured the Wallabies' off-field dramas weren't forgotten during their 37-18 Test defeat at Twickenham.

                                "You're all f...ing snitches anyway," declared Sinckler as a scuffle broke out early in the second half.

                                It was an apparent reference to the Wallabies' leadership group informing coach Michael Cheika that veterans Kurtley Beale and Adam Ashley-Cooper had breached team rules by having women in their hotel room after the Test loss to Wales.

                                While the guests were Ashley-Cooper's sister-in-law and two friends and they reportedly left after having some food and drink, Cheika responded by dropping both players for the England game.

                                It didn't help that the coach initially claimed the players were dropped for form and game plan reasons before the real story emerged.

                                Player of the match Sinckler was admonished after his sledge by referee Jaco Peyper who told him: "There are the laws of the game and the spirit."

                                Wallabies captain Michael Hooper said he didn't believe the off-field issue had affected the players during their loss to England and that he missed the Sinckler jibe.

                                "I didn't hear that," Hooper said.

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                                  #108

                                  https://twitter.com/steve_l15/status/1066358564363501568?s=21

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                                  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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                                    mariner4life
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                                    #109

                                    Considering the TMO watches everything in minute detail, how was that missed, it's as blatant as they come

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                                      Bovidae
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                                      #110

                                      Same TMO as the NZ-England game too. 🙂

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                                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                        Considering the TMO watches everything in minute detail, how was that missed, it's as blatant as they come

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                                        @mariner4life said in England v Australia:

                                        Considering the TMO watches everything in minute detail, how was that missed, it's as blatant as they come

                                        Wasnt there a recent change a couple of months ago where the TMO cant intervene but only get involved when referred to by the ref?

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                                        • crossbencherC crossbencher

                                          @paekakboyz Bugger! Didn't realise that when I first landed on it and I'm now paywalled out too. Here's SBS version

                                          https://www.sbs.com.au/news/england-prop-s-brutal-sledge-for-wallabies

                                          England prop Kyle Sinckler ensured the Wallabies' off-field dramas weren't forgotten during their 37-18 Test defeat at Twickenham.

                                          "You're all f...ing snitches anyway," declared Sinckler as a scuffle broke out early in the second half.

                                          It was an apparent reference to the Wallabies' leadership group informing coach Michael Cheika that veterans Kurtley Beale and Adam Ashley-Cooper had breached team rules by having women in their hotel room after the Test loss to Wales.

                                          While the guests were Ashley-Cooper's sister-in-law and two friends and they reportedly left after having some food and drink, Cheika responded by dropping both players for the England game.

                                          It didn't help that the coach initially claimed the players were dropped for form and game plan reasons before the real story emerged.

                                          Player of the match Sinckler was admonished after his sledge by referee Jaco Peyper who told him: "There are the laws of the game and the spirit."

                                          Wallabies captain Michael Hooper said he didn't believe the off-field issue had affected the players during their loss to England and that he missed the Sinckler jibe.

                                          "I didn't hear that," Hooper said.

                                          boobooB Offline
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                                          booboo
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                                          #112

                                          @crossbencher said in England v Australia:

                                          @paekakboyz Bugger! Didn't realise that when I first landed on it and I'm now paywalled out too. Here's SBS version

                                          https://www.sbs.com.au/news/england-prop-s-brutal-sledge-for-wallabies

                                          England prop Kyle Sinckler ensured the Wallabies' off-field dramas weren't forgotten during their 37-18 Test defeat at Twickenham.

                                          "You're all f...ing snitches anyway," declared Sinckler as a scuffle broke out early in the second half.

                                          It was an apparent reference to the Wallabies' leadership group informing coach Michael Cheika that veterans Kurtley Beale and Adam Ashley-Cooper had breached team rules by having women in their hotel room after the Test loss to Wales.

                                          While the guests were Ashley-Cooper's sister-in-law and two friends and they reportedly left after having some food and drink, Cheika responded by dropping both players for the England game.

                                          It didn't help that the coach initially claimed the players were dropped for form and game plan reasons before the real story emerged.

                                          Player of the match Sinckler was admonished after his sledge by referee Jaco Peyper who told him: "There are the laws of the game and the spirit."

                                          Wallabies captain Michael Hooper said he didn't believe the off-field issue had affected the players during their loss to England and that he missed the Sinckler jibe.

                                          "I didn't hear that," Hooper said.

                                          I thought it Sinckler hooping and hollering that was the issue at that scuffle, and Haco was telling him off for that.

                                          I'll give him credit for the sledge though. Its clever. It's not abusive or personal (doesn't "cross the loine"). It's not crude. It hurts. Top work that man.

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