England v Australia

MiketheSnow

Backs:
Elliot Daly, Chris Ashton, Henry Slade, Ben Te'o, Jonny May, Owen Farrell, Ben Youngs
Richard Wigglesworth, George Ford, Manu Tuilagi

Should be Nowell on the bench but Eddie can't help himself

May have got Ashton and May on wrong wings

Catogrande

@mikethesnow said in England v Australia:

Backs:
Elliot Daly, Chris Ashton, Henry Slade, Ben Te'o, Jonny May, Owen Farrell, Ben Youngs
Richard Wigglesworth, George Ford, Manu Tuilagi

Should be Nowell on the bench but Eddie can't help himself

May have got Ashton and May on wrong wings

??? Team not announced till Thursday? Source?

MiketheSnow

@catogrande said in England v Australia:

@mikethesnow said in England v Australia:

Backs:
Elliot Daly, Chris Ashton, Henry Slade, Ben Te'o, Jonny May, Owen Farrell, Ben Youngs
Richard Wigglesworth, George Ford, Manu Tuilagi

Should be Nowell on the bench but Eddie can't help himself

May have got Ashton and May on wrong wings

??? Team not announced till Thursday? Source?

:smiling_face_with_open_mouth_cold_sweat: :face_with_tears_of_joy:

My guess

Catogrande

@mikethesnow said in England v Australia:

@catogrande said in England v Australia:

@mikethesnow said in England v Australia:

Backs:
Elliot Daly, Chris Ashton, Henry Slade, Ben Te'o, Jonny May, Owen Farrell, Ben Youngs
Richard Wigglesworth, George Ford, Manu Tuilagi

Should be Nowell on the bench but Eddie can't help himself

May have got Ashton and May on wrong wings

??? Team not announced till Thursday? Source?

:smiling_face_with_open_mouth_cold_sweat: :face_with_tears_of_joy:

My guess

Well if we're going to play that game, my guess for the Wales v SA game is Cuthbert at inside centre. Gatland likes the big boys.

MiketheSnow

@catogrande said in England v Australia:

@mikethesnow said in England v Australia:

@catogrande said in England v Australia:

@mikethesnow said in England v Australia:

Backs:
Elliot Daly, Chris Ashton, Henry Slade, Ben Te'o, Jonny May, Owen Farrell, Ben Youngs
Richard Wigglesworth, George Ford, Manu Tuilagi

Should be Nowell on the bench but Eddie can't help himself

May have got Ashton and May on wrong wings

??? Team not announced till Thursday? Source?

:smiling_face_with_open_mouth_cold_sweat: :face_with_tears_of_joy:

My guess

Well if we're going to play that game, my guess for the Wales v SA game is Cuthbert at inside centre. Gatland likes the big boys.

Can you see Eddie picking a different backline from mine?

Catogrande

@mikethesnow said in England v Australia:

@catogrande said in England v Australia:

@mikethesnow said in England v Australia:

@catogrande said in England v Australia:

@mikethesnow said in England v Australia:

Backs:
Elliot Daly, Chris Ashton, Henry Slade, Ben Te'o, Jonny May, Owen Farrell, Ben Youngs
Richard Wigglesworth, George Ford, Manu Tuilagi

Should be Nowell on the bench but Eddie can't help himself

May have got Ashton and May on wrong wings

??? Team not announced till Thursday? Source?

:smiling_face_with_open_mouth_cold_sweat: :face_with_tears_of_joy:

My guess

Well if we're going to play that game, my guess for the Wales v SA game is Cuthbert at inside centre. Gatland likes the big boys.

Can you see Eddie picking a different backline from mine?

I wouldn't be altogether surprised to see a midfield of Ford, Farrell and Tuilagi. In any event as regards the backs it will be the midfield which will be taxing Eddie's mind. Farrell made a big difference on Saturday playing at 12 and Ford on the whole played OK. Neither T'eo or Slade has set the world alight so far ( not alone in that respect), so neither IMO can feel safe. Spoiled for choice on the wing, even more so once Watson comes back, but yes I would pick Ashton and May. I agree that Nowell needs to be in the mix as he can cover 15.

sparky

Suzie is on the staff of whichever London 4 star hotel the Wallabies have been staying in:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/46274440

Catogrande

@sparky said in England v Australia:

Suzie is on the staff of whichever London 4 star hotel the Wallabies have been staying in:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/46274440

Except....

"Israel Folau and Bernard Foley are still recovering from a stomach bug that cropped up at the end of last week," said an Australia spokesman.

mariner4life

On form, this should be a blood bath, and end what has just been a horror year (3 years) for the Wallabies on another down note.

Machpants

And half the team have been suzied

Nepia

Was the Homophobe's complete lack of pace last week down to the stomach bug of just the fact he's actually a slow poke these days?

Sapetyvi

@nepia I have seen him being run down before, don't think he has ever had the top end pace that other top class wingers have, as he has always relied on his acceleration, step and leap. Tho seemed very pedestrian on that one, so might have had something to do with the bug too.

Catogrande

Jack Nowell out now. Hammy damaged in training. (Common theme, training injuries). Likely see Cokanasiga step up. Left field alternative, Brown to come back at 15 with Daley reverting to the wing. Depth getting tested now.

Margin_Walker

TBF wing is one area that we can take a few injuries without too much of a drop off. Big opportunity for Cokanasiga, who'll surely come in.

Daly also needs a performance at FB. Hasn't really looked at home there yet. Far less depth there and Brown would look a good shout to come back in for the 6N unless he really nails it down. I'd actually rather see him at 13 than Slade, but Eddie's shown very little inclination on that front.

Stargazer

England starting XV:

15 Elliot Daly (Wasps, 24 caps), 14. Joe Cokanasiga (Bath Rugby, 1 cap), 13. Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs, 16 caps), 12. Ben Te’o (Worcester Warriors, 15 caps), 11. Jonny May (Leicester Tigers, 39 caps), 10. Owen Farrell (Saracens, 64 caps) co-captain, 9. Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 79 caps),
1 Ben Moon (Exeter Chiefs, 3 caps), 2. Jamie George (Saracens, 31 caps), 3. Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins, 16 caps), 4. Maro Itoje (Saracens, 25 caps), 5. Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, 67 caps), 6. Brad Shields (Wasps, 4 caps), 7. Sam Underhill (Bath Rugby, 8 caps), 8. Mark Wilson (Newcastle Falcons, 7 caps).

Finishers:
16 Dylan Hartley (Northampton Saints, 96 caps) co-captain, 17. Alec Hepburn (Exeter Chiefs, 5 caps), 18. Harry Williams (Exeter Chiefs, 14 caps), 19. Charlie Ewels (Bath Rugby, 9 caps), 20. Nathan Hughes (Wasps, 17 caps), 21. Richard Wigglesworth (Saracens, 32 caps), 22. George Ford (Leicester Tigers, 50 caps), 23. Manu Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers, 26 caps).

https://www.englandrugby.com/news/england-australia-eddie-jones-names-side-for-quilter-international/

Catogrande

@stargazer Given injury, form and availability I'm quite pleased with that run on side. The bench slightly less so. Wigglesworth is there as Hobson's choice now that Care is out of favour but with Tuilagi there we really have no cover at wing or FB.

Crucial

Oz 24 not named yet?

I doubt Suzie has got to them. I can't see any advantage in nobbling this team to make them worse than they already are.

MiketheSnow

@stargazer said in England v Australia:

England starting XV:

15 Elliot Daly (Wasps, 24 caps), 14. Joe Cokanasiga (Bath Rugby, 1 cap), 13. Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs, 16 caps), 12. Ben Te’o (Worcester Warriors, 15 caps), 11. Jonny May (Leicester Tigers, 39 caps), 10. Owen Farrell (Saracens, 64 caps) co-captain, 9. Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 79 caps),
1 Ben Moon (Exeter Chiefs, 3 caps), 2. Jamie George (Saracens, 31 caps), 3. Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins, 16 caps), 4. Maro Itoje (Saracens, 25 caps), 5. Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, 67 caps), 6. Brad Shields (Wasps, 4 caps), 7. Sam Underhill (Bath Rugby, 8 caps), 8. Mark Wilson (Newcastle Falcons, 7 caps).

Finishers:
16 Dylan Hartley (Northampton Saints, 96 caps) co-captain, 17. Alec Hepburn (Exeter Chiefs, 5 caps), 18. Harry Williams (Exeter Chiefs, 14 caps), 19. Charlie Ewels (Bath Rugby, 9 caps), 20. Nathan Hughes (Wasps, 17 caps), 21. Richard Wigglesworth (Saracens, 32 caps), 22. George Ford (Leicester Tigers, 50 caps), 23. Manu Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers, 26 caps).

https://www.englandrugby.com/news/england-australia-eddie-jones-names-side-for-quilter-international/

Fair play to Eddie, he resisted

That squad looks too strong for the Aussies.

England by 7-11

Stargazer

Wallabies

1 Scott Sio (54 Tests)
2 Tolu Latu (11 Tests)
3 Sekope Kepu (102 Tests)
4 Izack Rodda (16 Tests)
5 Adam Coleman (30 Tests)
6 Jack Dempsey (9 Tests)
7 Michael Hooper (c) (90 Tests)
8 David Pocock (77 Tests)
9 Will Genia (99 Tests)
10 Matt To’omua (41 Tests)
11 Jack Maddocks (6 Tests)
12 Bernard Foley (67 Tests)
13 Samu Kerevi (24 Tests)
14 Dane Haylett-Petty (30 Tests)
15 Israel Folau (72 Tests)

Reserves
16 Tatafu Polota-Nau (88 Tests)
17 Jermaine Ainsley (2 Tests)
18 Allan Alaalatoa (30 Tests)
19 Rob Simmons (93 Tests)
20 Ned Hanigan (19 Tests)
21 Pete Samu (8 Tests)
22 Nick Phipps (70 Tests)
23 Sefa Naivalu (9 Tests)

IN: Tolu Latu, Jack Maddocks, Nick Phipps, Sefa Naivalu
OUT: Marika Koroibete, Kurtley Beale, Taniela Tupou, Adam Ashley-Cooper

http://www.rugby.com.au/News/2018/11/22/Spring-Tour-Wallabies-England-team-announcement

MiketheSnow

Actually, this could go either way if the Aussies are fit & well.

If England give them the early ride they gave to Japan, then it could make for an interesting afternoon.

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