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    Wallabies

    1 Scott Sio (54 Tests)
    2 Tolu Latu (11 Tests)
    3 Sekope Kepu (102 Tests)
    4 Izack Rodda (16 Tests)
    5 Adam Coleman (30 Tests)
    6 Jack Dempsey (9 Tests)
    7 Michael Hooper (c) (90 Tests)
    8 David Pocock (77 Tests)
    9 Will Genia (99 Tests)
    10 Matt To’omua (41 Tests)
    11 Jack Maddocks (6 Tests)
    12 Bernard Foley (67 Tests)
    13 Samu Kerevi (24 Tests)
    14 Dane Haylett-Petty (30 Tests)
    15 Israel Folau (72 Tests)

    Reserves
    16 Tatafu Polota-Nau (88 Tests)
    17 Jermaine Ainsley (2 Tests)
    18 Allan Alaalatoa (30 Tests)
    19 Rob Simmons (93 Tests)
    20 Ned Hanigan (19 Tests)
    21 Pete Samu (8 Tests)
    22 Nick Phipps (70 Tests)
    23 Sefa Naivalu (9 Tests)

    IN: Tolu Latu, Jack Maddocks, Nick Phipps, Sefa Naivalu
    OUT: Marika Koroibete, Kurtley Beale, Taniela Tupou, Adam Ashley-Cooper

    http://www.rugby.com.au/News/2018/11/22/Spring-Tour-Wallabies-England-team-announcement

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    • MiketheSnowM Offline
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      Actually, this could go either way if the Aussies are fit & well.

      If England give them the early ride they gave to Japan, then it could make for an interesting afternoon.

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        That 6-2 bench split always looks risky. Needs another back (24th man)

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        • KiwiMurphK Online
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          Wallabies are going to wear their indigenous jersey and their one indigineous player Beale gets dropped.

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            Wallabies are going to wear their indigenous jersey and their one indigineous player Beale gets dropped.

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            @kiwimurph so he can really appreciate how cool it looks from the stands!!

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            • CrucialC Crucial

              That 6-2 bench split always looks risky. Needs another back (24th man)

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              @crucial said in England v Australia:

              That 6-2 bench split always looks risky. Needs another back (24th man)

              6-1 in reality as Phipps hardly plays. 😉

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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                @crucial said in England v Australia:

                That 6-2 bench split always looks risky. Needs another back (24th man)

                6-1 in reality as Phipps hardly plays. 😉

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                @bovidae said in England v Australia:

                @crucial said in England v Australia:

                That 6-2 bench split always looks risky. Needs another back (24th man)

                6-1 in reality as Phipps hardly plays. 😉

                5-1, Hanigan too

                Foley at 12, really? It was so successful against Italy

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  Wallabies are going to wear their indigenous jersey and their one indigineous player Beale gets dropped.

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                  @kiwimurph said in England v Australia:

                  Wallabies are going to wear their indigenous jersey and their one indigineous player Beale gets dropped.

                  Anyone know why? I can't be bothered looking, but he is one of their classiest players. Done something wrong off field again?

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                  • SnowyS Snowy

                    @kiwimurph said in England v Australia:

                    Wallabies are going to wear their indigenous jersey and their one indigineous player Beale gets dropped.

                    Anyone know why? I can't be bothered looking, but he is one of their classiest players. Done something wrong off field again?

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                    @snowy I didn't see the Italy match but he had an absolute nightmare game against Wales the week prior. His recent form has been really poor.

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                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                      @snowy I didn't see the Italy match but he had an absolute nightmare game against Wales the week prior. His recent form has been really poor.

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                      @kiwimurph said in England v Australia:

                      @snowy I didn't see the Italy match but he had an absolute nightmare game against Wales the week prior. His recent form has been really poor.

                      Thanks. Have only watched bits of those matches. Aussies really only have a couple of game breakers so would have tried to play him back into form I would have thought. You don't get better by not playing as a general rule, but confidence does help too.

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                      • StargazerS Offline
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                        Beale is one of the players who may just need a good break after playing an awful lot of minutes this year. Seventh overall in playing minutes in SR. In Aussie, only Foley played more SR.

                        For comparison, the top 10 of minutes played in SR:

                        Jantjies (LIO): 1520
                        Mostert (LIO): 1520
                        A Coetzee (LIO): 1485
                        Bridge (CRU): 1437
                        Foley (WAR): 1418
                        K Smith (LIO): 1367
                        Beale (WAR): 1353
                        Todd (CRU): 1350
                        Alaimalo (CHI): 1344
                        Rona (WAR): 13 38

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                          that is a very "what the fuck?" wallaby team.

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                            Finally Toomua gets a chance to show he can direct a team around the park and he's been given the powerhouse Foley outside of him to hit it up...

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                              Pocock out of the 23.

                              Wallabies superstar David Pocock will miss this weekend's Test against England, forced out of the team with a neck injury.
                              
                              The no. 8 had a last-minute run on Friday morning in London but failed that test and ultimately Australia opted to rule him out.
                              
                              Pocock has had neck issues all season and it was a similar injury that forced him out of the Wallabies clash with South Africa in Brisbane in September.
                              
                              This latest aggravation came from a hit in the Wallabies' 26-7 win over Italy last weekend in Padova.
                              
                              While the Wallabies are yet to confirm a replacement, it had been expected Pete Samu would replace Pocock in the back row, the third time in his debut season that he has been drafted into the starting side to replace either Pocock or captain Michael Hooper.
                              
                              Interestingly, Pocock's withdrawal could open the door for Kurtley Beale to return to the team after being initially left out of the team in a 6-2 bench.
                              

                              https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2018/11/23/england-wallabies-pocock-ruled-out

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                                Wallabies stars Kurtley Beale and Adam Ashley-Cooper were not eligible for selection in Saturday’s Test against England after breaking team protocol following the Wales match in Cardiff a fortnight ago.

                                A Wallabies spokesperson confirmed Beale and Ashley-Cooper, two of senior figures in the team, were not considered for selection because they invited three women back to their hotel in Newport, just out of Cardiff, on the night of Australia’s 9-6 loss to Wales.

                                Adam Ashley-Cooper and Kurtley Beale were not eligible for selection in this weekend's Test against England after breaking team protocol.

                                Adam Ashley-Cooper and Kurtley Beale were not eligible for selection in this weekend's Test against England after breaking team protocol. Credit:Stuart Walmsley/RUGBY.com.au

                                It has emerged one of the women was Ashley-Cooper’s sister-in-law. The others are believed to be her friends.

                                The women were out of the hotel by 10.30pm but Wallabies team rules state guests are not allowed in players' rooms.

                                Initially Cheika wanted to keep the issue under wraps, and that was no more evident than his confusing explanation as to why Beale was not included in Wallabies’ matchday 23 to take on England.

                                Cheika became aware of the issue on Monday, some nine days after the women were brought back to the hotel.

                                The pair were sanctioned after the leadership group involving Michael Hooper, David Pocock, Allan Alaalatoa, Samu Kerevi and Nick Phipps decided to alert the Wallabies coach about what had happened.

                                Beale was not even called up as a replacement player after David Pocock was ruled out. Pete Samu will now slot into the No.8 position, with Marika Koroibete to join spare backs Nick Phipps and Sefa Naivalu on a 5-3 bench.

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                                • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                  Wallabies stars Kurtley Beale and Adam Ashley-Cooper were not eligible for selection in Saturday’s Test against England after breaking team protocol following the Wales match in Cardiff a fortnight ago.

                                  A Wallabies spokesperson confirmed Beale and Ashley-Cooper, two of senior figures in the team, were not considered for selection because they invited three women back to their hotel in Newport, just out of Cardiff, on the night of Australia’s 9-6 loss to Wales.

                                  Adam Ashley-Cooper and Kurtley Beale were not eligible for selection in this weekend's Test against England after breaking team protocol.

                                  Adam Ashley-Cooper and Kurtley Beale were not eligible for selection in this weekend's Test against England after breaking team protocol. Credit:Stuart Walmsley/RUGBY.com.au

                                  It has emerged one of the women was Ashley-Cooper’s sister-in-law. The others are believed to be her friends.

                                  The women were out of the hotel by 10.30pm but Wallabies team rules state guests are not allowed in players' rooms.

                                  Initially Cheika wanted to keep the issue under wraps, and that was no more evident than his confusing explanation as to why Beale was not included in Wallabies’ matchday 23 to take on England.

                                  Cheika became aware of the issue on Monday, some nine days after the women were brought back to the hotel.

                                  The pair were sanctioned after the leadership group involving Michael Hooper, David Pocock, Allan Alaalatoa, Samu Kerevi and Nick Phipps decided to alert the Wallabies coach about what had happened.

                                  Beale was not even called up as a replacement player after David Pocock was ruled out. Pete Samu will now slot into the No.8 position, with Marika Koroibete to join spare backs Nick Phipps and Sefa Naivalu on a 5-3 bench.

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                                  @daffy-jaffy Whilst team protocols may have been broken, this sounds as though it is something that needed to be dealt with lightly and in house.

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                                  • CatograndeC Catogrande

                                    @daffy-jaffy Whilst team protocols may have been broken, this sounds as though it is something that needed to be dealt with lightly and in house.

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                                    @catogrande said in England v Australia:

                                    @daffy-jaffy Whilst team protocols may have been broken, this sounds as though it is something that needed to be dealt with lightly and in house.

                                    Michael Hooper, David Pocock, Allan Alaalatoa, Samu Kerevi and Nick Phipps decided to alert the Wallabies coach about what had happened

                                    Snitches get stitches

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                                    • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                      Wallabies stars Kurtley Beale and Adam Ashley-Cooper were not eligible for selection in Saturday’s Test against England after breaking team protocol following the Wales match in Cardiff a fortnight ago.

                                      A Wallabies spokesperson confirmed Beale and Ashley-Cooper, two of senior figures in the team, were not considered for selection because they invited three women back to their hotel in Newport, just out of Cardiff, on the night of Australia’s 9-6 loss to Wales.

                                      Adam Ashley-Cooper and Kurtley Beale were not eligible for selection in this weekend's Test against England after breaking team protocol.

                                      Adam Ashley-Cooper and Kurtley Beale were not eligible for selection in this weekend's Test against England after breaking team protocol. Credit:Stuart Walmsley/RUGBY.com.au

                                      It has emerged one of the women was Ashley-Cooper’s sister-in-law. The others are believed to be her friends.

                                      The women were out of the hotel by 10.30pm but Wallabies team rules state guests are not allowed in players' rooms.

                                      Initially Cheika wanted to keep the issue under wraps, and that was no more evident than his confusing explanation as to why Beale was not included in Wallabies’ matchday 23 to take on England.

                                      Cheika became aware of the issue on Monday, some nine days after the women were brought back to the hotel.

                                      The pair were sanctioned after the leadership group involving Michael Hooper, David Pocock, Allan Alaalatoa, Samu Kerevi and Nick Phipps decided to alert the Wallabies coach about what had happened.

                                      Beale was not even called up as a replacement player after David Pocock was ruled out. Pete Samu will now slot into the No.8 position, with Marika Koroibete to join spare backs Nick Phipps and Sefa Naivalu on a 5-3 bench.

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                                      @daffy-jaffy said in England v Australia:

                                      one of the women was Ashley-Cooper’s sister-in-law. The others are believed to be her friends.

                                      The women were out of the hotel by 10.30pm

                                      So dropping them for a test and humiliating the guys seems proportionate ...

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                                        FFS sister in law? It wasn't three hookers!

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                                          a breach of team protocol for something like that certainly should be dealt with in house.

                                          NOt only dropped, but you are shamed for breaking a team rule, definitely disproportionate punishment.

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