Skip to content
  • Categories
Collapse

The Silver Fern

  • Tipping
  • Team Sheets
  • Highlights
  • Results
    • All Blacks

      Search every All Blacks Test. Filter results by year, opposition, location, venue, city and RWC stage

    • Super Rugby

      Search every Super Rugby since match 1996

    • NPC

      Search NPC results. Only first division matches from 1976-2005. All results from the 14 team competition (2006-present) are included

2019 Rugby World Cup

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Sports Talk
rwc
1.2k Posts 90 Posters 102.1k Views 6 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • mariner4lifeM Offline
    mariner4lifeM Offline
    mariner4life
    wrote on last edited by
    #1061

    I'm more astounded England only kicked 6 in 2003

    RapidoR 1 Reply Last reply
    1
    • BovidaeB Offline
      BovidaeB Offline
      Bovidae
      wrote on last edited by
      #1062

      Jannie de Beer in 1999. 🙂

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        I'm more astounded England only kicked 6 in 2003

        RapidoR Offline
        RapidoR Offline
        Rapido
        wrote on last edited by
        #1063

        @mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

        I'm more astounded England only kicked 6 in 2003

        In the knockout stages. Jonny also potted 3 more in pool play. 2 v South Africa, and 1 in a very tight game v Samoa.

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • RapidoR Offline
          RapidoR Offline
          Rapido
          wrote on last edited by
          #1064

          There have been 6 drop-goals so far in the 2019 world cup (Pool stages).

          1 by Pollard in loss to NZ
          1 by Biggar in Wales win over Australia
          1 by Patchell also in Wales win over Australia
          1 by Camille Lopez in France clutch win over Argentina
          1 by Hogg in win over Samoa
          1 by Yuri Kushnarev (of Russia)

          So, 4 out of the 6 were in clutch games (Knockout-like games) of the pool stages.

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • RapidoR Offline
            RapidoR Offline
            Rapido
            wrote on last edited by
            #1065

            But of course, none of my analysis includes missed drop-goals.

            That would be interesting, but hard to find.

            Some of the more recent wikipedia scorecards include missed DG attempts if the player also scored via that method.
            E.g.

            • in 2007 quarterfinal - Hernandez potted 1 from 4 attempts in a winning effort v Scotland
            • in 2007 semifinal - Wilkinson also potted 1 from 4 attempts in a winning effort v France

            But you won't find 0 from 1 examples like a Trinh-Duc missed DG in 2011 finals very easily.

            rotatedR 1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • RapidoR Rapido

              But of course, none of my analysis includes missed drop-goals.

              That would be interesting, but hard to find.

              Some of the more recent wikipedia scorecards include missed DG attempts if the player also scored via that method.
              E.g.

              • in 2007 quarterfinal - Hernandez potted 1 from 4 attempts in a winning effort v Scotland
              • in 2007 semifinal - Wilkinson also potted 1 from 4 attempts in a winning effort v France

              But you won't find 0 from 1 examples like a Trinh-Duc missed DG in 2011 finals very easily.

              rotatedR Offline
              rotatedR Offline
              rotated
              wrote on last edited by
              #1066

              @Rapido said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

              But you won't find 0 from 1 examples like a Trinh-Duc missed DG in 2011 finals very easily.

              As part of the acceptance phase of my therapy I will offer up McAllister 0 from 1 in 2007.

              RapidoR 1 Reply Last reply
              5
              • BovidaeB Offline
                BovidaeB Offline
                Bovidae
                wrote on last edited by Bovidae
                #1067

                Zinny is 1/1 in knock-out games. Class.

                1 Reply Last reply
                3
                • antipodeanA Offline
                  antipodeanA Offline
                  antipodean
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1068

                  TOKYO, 15 Oct - World Rugby has announced the match officials for the quarter-finals of Rugby World Cup 2019 following a full review of performances over the 37 pool matches.

                  Jérôme Garcès (France), Nigel Owens (Wales), Jaco Peyper (South Africa) and Wayne Barnes (England) will take charge of the four matches in Tokyo and Oita over the weekend of 19-20 October.

                  In a selection that reflects the officiating team’s blend of experience and younger talent, Garcès will take charge of his second Rugby World Cup quarter-final as England face Australia in Oita on Saturday (16:15 JST) and Owens will take charge of world champions New Zealand versus Ireland at Tokyo Stadium on the same day (19:15 JST).

                  Sunday’s matches will see Peyper take charge of his 50th test (and his first quarter-final) with Wales versus France in Oita (16:15), while Barnes, pictured, will round-off the weekend’s action by refereeing hosts Japan against South Africa at Tokyo Stadium (19:15).

                  TimT 1 Reply Last reply
                  3
                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                    TOKYO, 15 Oct - World Rugby has announced the match officials for the quarter-finals of Rugby World Cup 2019 following a full review of performances over the 37 pool matches.

                    Jérôme Garcès (France), Nigel Owens (Wales), Jaco Peyper (South Africa) and Wayne Barnes (England) will take charge of the four matches in Tokyo and Oita over the weekend of 19-20 October.

                    In a selection that reflects the officiating team’s blend of experience and younger talent, Garcès will take charge of his second Rugby World Cup quarter-final as England face Australia in Oita on Saturday (16:15 JST) and Owens will take charge of world champions New Zealand versus Ireland at Tokyo Stadium on the same day (19:15 JST).

                    Sunday’s matches will see Peyper take charge of his 50th test (and his first quarter-final) with Wales versus France in Oita (16:15), while Barnes, pictured, will round-off the weekend’s action by refereeing hosts Japan against South Africa at Tokyo Stadium (19:15).

                    TimT Offline
                    TimT Offline
                    Tim
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1069

                    @antipodean Well that’s a relief.

                    antipodeanA 1 Reply Last reply
                    4
                    • TimT Tim

                      @antipodean Well that’s a relief.

                      antipodeanA Offline
                      antipodeanA Offline
                      antipodean
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1070

                      @Tim said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                      @antipodean Well that’s a relief.

                      Agreed - I think he prefers our way of playing too.

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      1
                      • Billy TellB Offline
                        Billy TellB Offline
                        Billy Tell
                        wrote on last edited by Billy Tell
                        #1071

                        Owens. Sweet bro as.

                        I write that like I’ve been away from NZ too long. Something’s not right.

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        2
                        • rotatedR rotated

                          @Rapido said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                          But you won't find 0 from 1 examples like a Trinh-Duc missed DG in 2011 finals very easily.

                          As part of the acceptance phase of my therapy I will offer up McAllister 0 from 1 in 2007.

                          RapidoR Offline
                          RapidoR Offline
                          Rapido
                          wrote on last edited by Rapido
                          #1072

                          @rotated said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                          @Rapido said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                          But you won't find 0 from 1 examples like a Trinh-Duc missed DG in 2011 finals very easily.

                          As part of the acceptance phase of my therapy I will offer up McAllister 0 from 1 in 2007.

                          Mehrtens 1 from 3 in 1995 final.

                          Jannie de Beer 1 from 5 in 1999 semifinal trying to repeat his quarterfinal heroics.

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • BovidaeB Offline
                            BovidaeB Offline
                            Bovidae
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1073

                            What we all want to know is, which game Skeen is involved in.

                            Screen Shot 2019-10-15 at 17.11.03.png

                            canefanC boobooB 2 Replies Last reply
                            0
                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              What we all want to know is, which game Skeen is involved in.

                              Screen Shot 2019-10-15 at 17.11.03.png

                              canefanC Offline
                              canefanC Offline
                              canefan
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1074

                              @Bovidae is that official? So we have Owens?

                              BovidaeB 1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • canefanC canefan

                                @Bovidae is that official? So we have Owens?

                                BovidaeB Offline
                                BovidaeB Offline
                                Bovidae
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1075

                                @canefan Yes, from the WR website.

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                  What we all want to know is, which game Skeen is involved in.

                                  Screen Shot 2019-10-15 at 17.11.03.png

                                  boobooB Offline
                                  boobooB Offline
                                  booboo
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1076

                                  @Bovidae said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                  What we all want to know is, which game Skeen is involved in.

                                  Screen Shot 2019-10-15 at 17.11.03.png

                                  Oh good god.

                                  Garces, two Frog touchies and Skeenie.

                                  Heaven help England and Aus.

                                  BovidaeB SiamS 2 Replies Last reply
                                  2
                                  • boobooB booboo

                                    @Bovidae said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                    What we all want to know is, which game Skeen is involved in.

                                    Screen Shot 2019-10-15 at 17.11.03.png

                                    Oh good god.

                                    Garces, two Frog touchies and Skeenie.

                                    Heaven help England and Aus.

                                    BovidaeB Offline
                                    BovidaeB Offline
                                    Bovidae
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1077

                                    @booboo The phrase "lost in translation" comes to mind.

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    1
                                    • RapidoR Rapido

                                      Here is some general historical analysis, and NZ-focussed analysis of drop-goals in the RWC knockout stages.

                                      RWC_DGs.PNG

                                      • 78% of all dropgoals taken in the RWC knockout stages have been by the winning team in that match
                                      • Surprisingly, NZ have actually scored 22% of all dropgoals taken in the RWC knockout stages.
                                        (I'm not sure if this in an outlier or not? NZ have payed in 34% of all the RWC knockout matches)
                                      • 88% of NZ's dropgoals have resulted in a winning effort (the only one that didn't was Mehrtens' DG in the 1995 final)
                                      • Only 2 teams have won a RWC without scoring a DG at some stage during their knockout games. South Africa in 2007 and Australia in 1991. (Quite a surprising stat for SAF in 2007 with Morne Steyn at 10 and the style in vogue during those years)

                                      Out of 56 knockout matches in history. 23 of these matches have involved (at leasat one) dropgoal. 41% chance of seeing a DG, 59% chance of no DG

                                      (Note: I don't include 3rd v 4th playoff as a knockout)

                                      Billy WebbB Offline
                                      Billy WebbB Offline
                                      Billy Webb
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1078

                                      @Rapido said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                      Here is some general historical analysis, and NZ-focussed analysis of drop-goals in the RWC knockout stages.

                                      • 78% of all dropgoals taken in the RWC knockout stages have been by the winning team in that match
                                      • Surprisingly, NZ have actually scored 22% of all dropgoals taken in the RWC knockout stages.
                                        (I'm not sure if this in an outlier or not? NZ have payed in 34% of all the RWC knockout matches)
                                      • 88% of NZ's dropgoals have resulted in a winning effort (the only one that didn't was Mehrtens' DG in the 1995 final)
                                      • Only 2 teams have won a RWC without scoring a DG at some stage during their knockout games. South Africa in 2007 and Australia in 1991. (Quite a surprising stat for SAF in 2007 with Morne Steyn at 10 and the style in vogue during those years)

                                      Out of 56 knockout matches in history. 23 of these matches have involved (at leasat one) dropgoal. 41% chance of seeing a DG, 59% chance of no DG

                                      Butch James was the preferred flyhalf in 2007.
                                      Known for a lot of things, but drop goals definitely wasn't one of them.

                                      BovidaeB 1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • chimoausC Offline
                                        chimoausC Offline
                                        chimoaus
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1079

                                        Really happy to have Owens as the ref. A known quantity and a very experienced ref who won't let things get to him. I'm just stoked when don't have the frog trifecta.

                                        CrucialC 1 Reply Last reply
                                        1
                                        • chimoausC chimoaus

                                          Really happy to have Owens as the ref. A known quantity and a very experienced ref who won't let things get to him. I'm just stoked when don't have the frog trifecta.

                                          CrucialC Offline
                                          CrucialC Offline
                                          Crucial
                                          wrote on last edited by Crucial
                                          #1080

                                          @chimoaus said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                          Really happy to have Owens as the ref. A known quantity and a very experienced ref who won't let things get to him. I'm just stoked when don't have the frog trifecta.

                                          Don't get too gleeful. Hopefully we put the Irish back in their box but then we seem to be lined up for a Frog in the semis (assuming England win)

                                          Actually scrap that. England wouldn't get the tricolour twice in a row so maybe Peyper for a semi-final. I reckon Barnes is getting the final as a retirement pressie (if England aren't there)

                                          BovidaeB 1 Reply Last reply
                                          0
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Search
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Search