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2019 Rugby World Cup

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  • HigginsH Higgins

    So it might be semi official that Wales and England are joint de facto holders of the 2019 Webb Ellis Cup.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/117675932/exspringboks-lock-marco-wentzel-says-south-african-rugby-has-a-doping-issue

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    @Higgins Nah we are cos we beat them

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      @Higgins Nah we are cos we beat them

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      @Machpants said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

      @Higgins Nah we are cos we beat them

      But we lost to England in the semis and the Boks finished behind us in pool play so it did not have any effect on who we played in the playoffs.

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      • HigginsH Higgins

        @Machpants said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

        @Higgins Nah we are cos we beat them

        But we lost to England in the semis and the Boks finished behind us in pool play so it did not have any effect on who we played in the playoffs.

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        @Higgins said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

        @Machpants said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

        @Higgins Nah we are cos we beat them

        But we lost to England in the semis and the Boks finished behind us in pool play so it did not have any effect on who we played in the playoffs.

        Good point, don't like it tho!

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          This sort of suspicion just places an asterisk next to another of South Africa's RWC wins:

          • 1995 - playing against a team suffering food poisoning. Still took extra time to complete.
          • 2007 - Wayne Barnes.
          • 2019 - steroid munching team.
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            Is that true about the positive testings at schoolboy level??? Fuck me.

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              Is that true about the positive testings at schoolboy level??? Fuck me.

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              @voodoo Yeah, there have been several reports in - particularly South African - media of doping in SA schoolboy rugby, the last few years. I've read a few of them. It's worrying, not just for the sport in SA, but also from a health perspective.

              I've watched some of the games of the World Schools Festival for the last two years and some of these players were indeed HUGE compared to many of our players, which could not just be explained by a higher average age. It made me wonder ...
              (Btw, the next edition of the WSF is from 24 to 28 March 2020; King's College will be one of the participating schools).

              Not sure whether it's happening across all schools, or whether it's mostly at specific, individual schools. I also don't know how common it is; don't remember seeing numbers.

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              • HigginsH Higgins

                So it might be semi official that Wales and England are joint de facto holders of the 2019 Webb Ellis Cup.

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/117675932/exspringboks-lock-marco-wentzel-says-south-african-rugby-has-a-doping-issue

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                @Higgins said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                So it might be semi official that Wales and England are joint de facto holders of the 2019 Webb Ellis Cup.

                Neither de facto (the trophy is here in Cape Town as I speak) nor de juro given that we officially hold the title.

                But whatever makes you feel better 😉

                @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                This sort of suspicion just places an asterisk next to another of South Africa's RWC wins:

                • 1995 - playing against a team suffering food poisoning. Still took extra time to complete.
                • 2007 - Wayne Barnes.
                • 2019 - steroid munching team.

                Wayne Barnes! hahahahahahaha

                The bitterness runs deep in that one.

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                • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

                  @Higgins said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                  So it might be semi official that Wales and England are joint de facto holders of the 2019 Webb Ellis Cup.

                  Neither de facto (the trophy is here in Cape Town as I speak) nor de juro given that we officially hold the title.

                  But whatever makes you feel better 😉

                  @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                  This sort of suspicion just places an asterisk next to another of South Africa's RWC wins:

                  • 1995 - playing against a team suffering food poisoning. Still took extra time to complete.
                  • 2007 - Wayne Barnes.
                  • 2019 - steroid munching team.

                  Wayne Barnes! hahahahahahaha

                  The bitterness runs deep in that one.

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                  @Billy-Webb said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                  @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                  This sort of suspicion just places an asterisk next to another of South Africa's RWC wins:

                  • 1995 - playing against a team suffering food poisoning. Still took extra time to complete.
                  • 2007 - Wayne Barnes.
                  • 2019 - steroid munching team.

                  Wayne Barnes! hahahahahahaha

                  The bitterness runs deep in that one.

                  Not joking. I'll never forgive him, the IRB and Paddy O'Brien for that disgrace. Any other sport there would've been an investigation into that level of incompetence.

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                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                    @Billy-Webb said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                    @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                    This sort of suspicion just places an asterisk next to another of South Africa's RWC wins:

                    • 1995 - playing against a team suffering food poisoning. Still took extra time to complete.
                    • 2007 - Wayne Barnes.
                    • 2019 - steroid munching team.

                    Wayne Barnes! hahahahahahaha

                    The bitterness runs deep in that one.

                    Not joking. I'll never forgive him, the IRB and Paddy O'Brien for that disgrace. Any other sport there would've been an investigation into that level of incompetence.

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                    @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                    @Billy-Webb said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                    @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                    This sort of suspicion just places an asterisk next to another of South Africa's RWC wins:

                    • 1995 - playing against a team suffering food poisoning. Still took extra time to complete.
                    • 2007 - Wayne Barnes.
                    • 2019 - steroid munching team.

                    Wayne Barnes! hahahahahahaha

                    The bitterness runs deep in that one.

                    Not joking. I'll never forgive him, the IRB and Paddy O'Brien for that disgrace. Any other sport there would've been an investigation into that level of incompetence.

                    Amen.

                    I still love rugby, but that was just wrong.

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                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                      This sort of suspicion just places an asterisk next to another of South Africa's RWC wins:

                      • 1995 - playing against a team suffering food poisoning. Still took extra time to complete.
                      • 2007 - Wayne Barnes.
                      • 2019 - steroid munching team.
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                      @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                      This sort of suspicion just places an asterisk next to another of South Africa's RWC wins:

                      • 1995 - playing against a team suffering food poisoning. Still took extra time to complete.
                      • 2007 - Wayne Barnes.
                      • 2019 - steroid munching team.

                      In the spirit of conspiracy theories....

                      NZ Wins:

                      1987 - Sth Africa didn't play, so not a proper RWC win
                      2011 - Donald's penalty didn't go over the bar
                      2015 - Scotland were robbed by Joubert in the 1/4's and NZ would have lost to Scotland

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                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                        @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                        This sort of suspicion just places an asterisk next to another of South Africa's RWC wins:

                        • 1995 - playing against a team suffering food poisoning. Still took extra time to complete.
                        • 2007 - Wayne Barnes.
                        • 2019 - steroid munching team.

                        In the spirit of conspiracy theories....

                        NZ Wins:

                        1987 - Sth Africa didn't play, so not a proper RWC win
                        2011 - Donald's penalty didn't go over the bar
                        2015 - Scotland were robbed by Joubert in the 1/4's and NZ would have lost to Scotland

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                        @Victor-Meldrew said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                        @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                        This sort of suspicion just places an asterisk next to another of South Africa's RWC wins:

                        • 1995 - playing against a team suffering food poisoning. Still took extra time to complete.
                        • 2007 - Wayne Barnes.
                        • 2019 - steroid munching team.

                        In the spirit of conspiracy theories....

                        NZ Wins:

                        1987 - Sth Africa didn't play, so not a proper RWC win
                        2011 - Donald's penalty didn't go over the bar
                        2015 - Scotland were robbed by Joubert in the 1/4's and NZ would have lost to Scotland

                        2011 but the one vs France did!

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                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/117778669/rugby-world-cup-aaron-smith-speaks-out-on-ruthless-all-blacks-review-after-loss-to-england

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