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2019 Rugby World Cup

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  • MokeyM Mokey

    Two things I find super weird is they are quite happy to wait until Sunday to decide about Sunday's games, and also not sure how cancelling matches is a 'contingency plan'.

    I mean a RWC in Asia in typhoon season was already kind of stupid (you haven't lived til you've waded a street with thigh high water to get fresh water from a 7-11 that won't shut even if products are floating past you) but c'mon. Back up venue. Postponement day. Pretty basic shit. None of these pool games deserves a draw.

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    @Mokey said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

    Two things I find super weird is they are quite happy to wait until Sunday to decide about Sunday's games, and also not sure how cancelling matches is a 'contingency plan'.

    I mean a RWC in Asia in typhoon season was already kind of stupid (you haven't lived til you've waded a street with thigh high water to get fresh water from a 7-11 that won't shut even if products are floating past you) but c'mon. Back up venue. Postponement day. Pretty basic shit. None of these pool games deserves a draw.

    That's a little simplistic. It's late in the typhoon season, this is a super typhoon and its projected path takes out most of the viable venues and traffic routes on a busy weekend.

    Waiting until after the typhoon is projected to pass to survey the damage and ability to continue is a good idea.

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    • antipodeanA antipodean

      @Mokey said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

      Two things I find super weird is they are quite happy to wait until Sunday to decide about Sunday's games, and also not sure how cancelling matches is a 'contingency plan'.

      I mean a RWC in Asia in typhoon season was already kind of stupid (you haven't lived til you've waded a street with thigh high water to get fresh water from a 7-11 that won't shut even if products are floating past you) but c'mon. Back up venue. Postponement day. Pretty basic shit. None of these pool games deserves a draw.

      That's a little simplistic. It's late in the typhoon season, this is a super typhoon and its projected path takes out most of the viable venues and traffic routes on a busy weekend.

      Waiting until after the typhoon is projected to pass to survey the damage and ability to continue is a good idea.

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      @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

      It's late in the typhoon season, this is a super typhoon and its projected path takes out most of the viable venues and traffic routes on a busy weekend.

      The worst Typhoons are usually late in the season and they hit japan. Some other contingencies could have been arranged I think.

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      • antipodeanA antipodean

        @Mokey said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

        Two things I find super weird is they are quite happy to wait until Sunday to decide about Sunday's games, and also not sure how cancelling matches is a 'contingency plan'.

        I mean a RWC in Asia in typhoon season was already kind of stupid (you haven't lived til you've waded a street with thigh high water to get fresh water from a 7-11 that won't shut even if products are floating past you) but c'mon. Back up venue. Postponement day. Pretty basic shit. None of these pool games deserves a draw.

        That's a little simplistic. It's late in the typhoon season, this is a super typhoon and its projected path takes out most of the viable venues and traffic routes on a busy weekend.

        Waiting until after the typhoon is projected to pass to survey the damage and ability to continue is a good idea.

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        @antipodean

        Although I somewhat agree, we had a massive one with deaths and lots of damage in October last year, so this isn’t exactly out of the blue. That’s what pisses me off.

        Unsurprisingly, Hokkaido was barely damaged then, and probably will get nothing now. So, that will be nice, given that the Sapporo Dome is not being used on Saturday (if my check if their schedule is correct).

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        • SnowyS Snowy

          @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

          It's late in the typhoon season, this is a super typhoon and its projected path takes out most of the viable venues and traffic routes on a busy weekend.

          The worst Typhoons are usually late in the season and they hit japan. Some other contingencies could have been arranged I think.

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          @Snowy said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

          @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

          It's late in the typhoon season, this is a super typhoon and its projected path takes out most of the viable venues and traffic routes on a busy weekend.

          The worst Typhoons are usually late in the season and they hit japan. Some other contingencies could have been arranged I think.

          Like? Book all the hotels? Book all the stadiums? For the entirety of the pool stage?

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            The alternative was to play it in March - May, something no one would countenance from the NH clubs to SANZAAR.

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            • gt12G gt12

              @antipodean

              Although I somewhat agree, we had a massive one with deaths and lots of damage in October last year, so this isn’t exactly out of the blue. That’s what pisses me off.

              Unsurprisingly, Hokkaido was barely damaged then, and probably will get nothing now. So, that will be nice, given that the Sapporo Dome is not being used on Saturday (if my check if their schedule is correct).

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              @gt12 said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

              Unsurprisingly, Hokkaido was barely damaged then, and probably will get nothing now. So, that will be nice, given that the Sapporo Dome is not being used on Saturday (if my check if their schedule is correct).

              As you would have seen Gilpin was asked specifically about the Sapporo Dome and replied that it wasn't available.

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                If I were Steve Hansen , I would give Conor O”Shea a call and have still have a practice game, does not have to be on the same day if the wether is bad..just an unofficial hit out..

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                  They are going to play an inter-squad game now.

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    They are going to play an inter-squad game now.

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                    @Bovidae said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                    They are going to play an inter-squad game now.

                    Probably get more out of it. Invite Garces and Poite to come and referee 😉

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                    • canefanC canefan

                      @Bovidae said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                      They are going to play an inter-squad game now.

                      Probably get more out of it. Invite Garces and Poite to come and referee 😉

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                      @canefan and Ben Skeen to act as the TMO lol

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                      • rotatedR rotated

                        So if RSA/Canada and ABs/Italy were scheduled in reverse the Boks would be eliminated? If the ABs lost to South Africa in the opening fixture (without a Bonus point) and all else was the same they would be eliminated?

                        Waaaay to close to close to the sun there.

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                        @rotated said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                        So if RSA/Canada and ABs/Italy were scheduled in reverse the Boks would be eliminated? If the ABs lost to South Africa in the opening fixture (without a Bonus point) and all else was the same they would be eliminated?

                        Waaaay to close to close to the sun there.

                        Is it possible that they've decided to cancel these two matches because the pools are effectively decided?

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                        • juniorJ junior

                          @rotated said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                          So if RSA/Canada and ABs/Italy were scheduled in reverse the Boks would be eliminated? If the ABs lost to South Africa in the opening fixture (without a Bonus point) and all else was the same they would be eliminated?

                          Waaaay to close to close to the sun there.

                          Is it possible that they've decided to cancel these two matches because the pools are effectively decided?

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                          @junior said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                          @rotated said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                          So if RSA/Canada and ABs/Italy were scheduled in reverse the Boks would be eliminated? If the ABs lost to South Africa in the opening fixture (without a Bonus point) and all else was the same they would be eliminated?

                          Waaaay to close to close to the sun there.

                          Is it possible that they've decided to cancel these two matches because the pools are effectively decided?

                          Decided how? “Let’s face it Italy, you’re a bit shit so you were never going to qualify anyway, so no harm done”? If that’s the case why did they not just tell Italy (and TBF all the nations seeded 9 to 20) not to bother flying out to Japan in the first place?

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                          • JCJ JC

                            @junior said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                            @rotated said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                            So if RSA/Canada and ABs/Italy were scheduled in reverse the Boks would be eliminated? If the ABs lost to South Africa in the opening fixture (without a Bonus point) and all else was the same they would be eliminated?

                            Waaaay to close to close to the sun there.

                            Is it possible that they've decided to cancel these two matches because the pools are effectively decided?

                            Decided how? “Let’s face it Italy, you’re a bit shit so you were never going to qualify anyway, so no harm done”? If that’s the case why did they not just tell Italy (and TBF all the nations seeded 9 to 20) not to bother flying out to Japan in the first place?

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                            @JC said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                            @junior said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                            @rotated said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                            So if RSA/Canada and ABs/Italy were scheduled in reverse the Boks would be eliminated? If the ABs lost to South Africa in the opening fixture (without a Bonus point) and all else was the same they would be eliminated?

                            Waaaay to close to close to the sun there.

                            Is it possible that they've decided to cancel these two matches because the pools are effectively decided?

                            Decided how? “Let’s face it Italy, you’re a bit shit so you were never going to qualify anyway, so no harm done”? If that’s the case why did they not just tell Italy (and TBF all the nations seeded 9 to 20) not to bother flying out to Japan in the first place?

                            I'm just speculating, but yeah - cancelling the France v England match this far out is easy to do, as no one's tournament is affected if that match doesn't go ahead (i.e. they'll both make the QFs). Same goes for the ABs v Italy match - that's obviously very harsh on Italy, but it is the truth. Also, I'm not sure WRC really give two shits about being "fair" particularly to a team like Italy.

                            The Japan v Scotland match - on the other hand - has a lot riding on it. I also understand that it was the most in-demand pool match in terms of ticket sales and so there will be a lot of money to refund. EDIT: I'd also add that there will be a lot of eyeballs on this match from around the world, as the result could affect not just Scotland and Japan, but also NZ, Ireland and RSA.

                            In those circumstances, you'd want to be absolutely sure that cancelling that match is the best thing to do.

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                            • rotatedR rotated

                              So if RSA/Canada and ABs/Italy were scheduled in reverse the Boks would be eliminated? If the ABs lost to South Africa in the opening fixture (without a Bonus point) and all else was the same they would be eliminated?

                              Waaaay to close to close to the sun there.

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                              @rotated said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                              So if RSA/Canada and ABs/Italy were scheduled in reverse the Boks would be eliminated? If the ABs lost to South Africa in the opening fixture (without a Bonus point) and all else was the same they would be eliminated?

                              Waaaay to close to close to the sun there.

                              No, if the All Blacks were at risk of missing the quarter finals they would have used their influence over World Rugby to have the Typhoon moved off course or asked for Japan to be moved out off the way...

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                              • UniteU Unite

                                @rotated said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                So if RSA/Canada and ABs/Italy were scheduled in reverse the Boks would be eliminated? If the ABs lost to South Africa in the opening fixture (without a Bonus point) and all else was the same they would be eliminated?

                                Waaaay to close to close to the sun there.

                                No, if the All Blacks were at risk of missing the quarter finals they would have used their influence over World Rugby to have the Typhoon moved off course or asked for Japan to be moved out off the way...

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                                @Unite
                                Obviously the All Blacks control the weather, no need for world rugby.

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                                  @Unite
                                  Obviously the All Blacks control the weather, no need for world rugby.

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                                  @mofitzy_ The real 2019 smackdown: Aura vs Hagibis

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    @gt12 said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                    Unsurprisingly, Hokkaido was barely damaged then, and probably will get nothing now. So, that will be nice, given that the Sapporo Dome is not being used on Saturday (if my check if their schedule is correct).

                                    As you would have seen Gilpin was asked specifically about the Sapporo Dome and replied that it wasn't available.

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                                    @Bovidae

                                    I’m sure that it isn’t now. They have a soccer game on Sunday, but I’ll bet they could have had it if they wanted it and had booked it earlier.

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                                    • S Steven Harris

                                      @canefan and Ben Skeen to act as the TMO lol

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                                      @Steven-Harris said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                      @canefan and Ben Skeen to act as the TMO lol

                                      World rugby report that 3 ABs were cited following an intervention from TMO Ben Skeen during a game of warmup touch rugby, Beauden Barrett for being too fast, Sevu Reece for scoring too many tries and Kieran Read just because.

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                                        Feel almost dirty typing this, but the wisest thing have read about the cancellations is this tweet from Stephen Jones of the Sunday Times:

                                        https://twitter.com/stephenjones9/status/1182330402469335041?s=20

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                                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                                          @Snowy said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                          @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                          It's late in the typhoon season, this is a super typhoon and its projected path takes out most of the viable venues and traffic routes on a busy weekend.

                                          The worst Typhoons are usually late in the season and they hit japan. Some other contingencies could have been arranged I think.

                                          Like? Book all the hotels? Book all the stadiums? For the entirety of the pool stage?

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                                          @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                          @Snowy said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                          @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                          It's late in the typhoon season, this is a super typhoon and its projected path takes out most of the viable venues and traffic routes on a busy weekend.

                                          The worst Typhoons are usually late in the season and they hit japan. Some other contingencies could have been arranged I think.

                                          Like? Book all the hotels? Book all the stadiums? For the entirety of the pool stage?

                                          Still play the match somewhere else even if an empty stadium. Only teams and officials need to be there.

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