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2019 Rugby World Cup

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    They are going to play an inter-squad game now.

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    @Bovidae said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

    They are going to play an inter-squad game now.

    Probably get more out of it. Invite Garces and Poite to come and referee 😉

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    • canefanC canefan

      @Bovidae said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

      They are going to play an inter-squad game now.

      Probably get more out of it. Invite Garces and Poite to come and referee 😉

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      @canefan and Ben Skeen to act as the TMO lol

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      • rotatedR rotated

        So if RSA/Canada and ABs/Italy were scheduled in reverse the Boks would be eliminated? If the ABs lost to South Africa in the opening fixture (without a Bonus point) and all else was the same they would be eliminated?

        Waaaay to close to close to the sun there.

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        @rotated said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

        So if RSA/Canada and ABs/Italy were scheduled in reverse the Boks would be eliminated? If the ABs lost to South Africa in the opening fixture (without a Bonus point) and all else was the same they would be eliminated?

        Waaaay to close to close to the sun there.

        Is it possible that they've decided to cancel these two matches because the pools are effectively decided?

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        • juniorJ junior

          @rotated said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

          So if RSA/Canada and ABs/Italy were scheduled in reverse the Boks would be eliminated? If the ABs lost to South Africa in the opening fixture (without a Bonus point) and all else was the same they would be eliminated?

          Waaaay to close to close to the sun there.

          Is it possible that they've decided to cancel these two matches because the pools are effectively decided?

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          @junior said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

          @rotated said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

          So if RSA/Canada and ABs/Italy were scheduled in reverse the Boks would be eliminated? If the ABs lost to South Africa in the opening fixture (without a Bonus point) and all else was the same they would be eliminated?

          Waaaay to close to close to the sun there.

          Is it possible that they've decided to cancel these two matches because the pools are effectively decided?

          Decided how? “Let’s face it Italy, you’re a bit shit so you were never going to qualify anyway, so no harm done”? If that’s the case why did they not just tell Italy (and TBF all the nations seeded 9 to 20) not to bother flying out to Japan in the first place?

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          • JCJ JC

            @junior said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

            @rotated said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

            So if RSA/Canada and ABs/Italy were scheduled in reverse the Boks would be eliminated? If the ABs lost to South Africa in the opening fixture (without a Bonus point) and all else was the same they would be eliminated?

            Waaaay to close to close to the sun there.

            Is it possible that they've decided to cancel these two matches because the pools are effectively decided?

            Decided how? “Let’s face it Italy, you’re a bit shit so you were never going to qualify anyway, so no harm done”? If that’s the case why did they not just tell Italy (and TBF all the nations seeded 9 to 20) not to bother flying out to Japan in the first place?

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            @JC said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

            @junior said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

            @rotated said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

            So if RSA/Canada and ABs/Italy were scheduled in reverse the Boks would be eliminated? If the ABs lost to South Africa in the opening fixture (without a Bonus point) and all else was the same they would be eliminated?

            Waaaay to close to close to the sun there.

            Is it possible that they've decided to cancel these two matches because the pools are effectively decided?

            Decided how? “Let’s face it Italy, you’re a bit shit so you were never going to qualify anyway, so no harm done”? If that’s the case why did they not just tell Italy (and TBF all the nations seeded 9 to 20) not to bother flying out to Japan in the first place?

            I'm just speculating, but yeah - cancelling the France v England match this far out is easy to do, as no one's tournament is affected if that match doesn't go ahead (i.e. they'll both make the QFs). Same goes for the ABs v Italy match - that's obviously very harsh on Italy, but it is the truth. Also, I'm not sure WRC really give two shits about being "fair" particularly to a team like Italy.

            The Japan v Scotland match - on the other hand - has a lot riding on it. I also understand that it was the most in-demand pool match in terms of ticket sales and so there will be a lot of money to refund. EDIT: I'd also add that there will be a lot of eyeballs on this match from around the world, as the result could affect not just Scotland and Japan, but also NZ, Ireland and RSA.

            In those circumstances, you'd want to be absolutely sure that cancelling that match is the best thing to do.

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            • rotatedR rotated

              So if RSA/Canada and ABs/Italy were scheduled in reverse the Boks would be eliminated? If the ABs lost to South Africa in the opening fixture (without a Bonus point) and all else was the same they would be eliminated?

              Waaaay to close to close to the sun there.

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              @rotated said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

              So if RSA/Canada and ABs/Italy were scheduled in reverse the Boks would be eliminated? If the ABs lost to South Africa in the opening fixture (without a Bonus point) and all else was the same they would be eliminated?

              Waaaay to close to close to the sun there.

              No, if the All Blacks were at risk of missing the quarter finals they would have used their influence over World Rugby to have the Typhoon moved off course or asked for Japan to be moved out off the way...

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              • UniteU Unite

                @rotated said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                So if RSA/Canada and ABs/Italy were scheduled in reverse the Boks would be eliminated? If the ABs lost to South Africa in the opening fixture (without a Bonus point) and all else was the same they would be eliminated?

                Waaaay to close to close to the sun there.

                No, if the All Blacks were at risk of missing the quarter finals they would have used their influence over World Rugby to have the Typhoon moved off course or asked for Japan to be moved out off the way...

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                @Unite
                Obviously the All Blacks control the weather, no need for world rugby.

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                • mofitzy_M mofitzy_

                  @Unite
                  Obviously the All Blacks control the weather, no need for world rugby.

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                  @mofitzy_ The real 2019 smackdown: Aura vs Hagibis

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    @gt12 said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                    Unsurprisingly, Hokkaido was barely damaged then, and probably will get nothing now. So, that will be nice, given that the Sapporo Dome is not being used on Saturday (if my check if their schedule is correct).

                    As you would have seen Gilpin was asked specifically about the Sapporo Dome and replied that it wasn't available.

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                    @Bovidae

                    I’m sure that it isn’t now. They have a soccer game on Sunday, but I’ll bet they could have had it if they wanted it and had booked it earlier.

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                    • S Steven Harris

                      @canefan and Ben Skeen to act as the TMO lol

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                      @Steven-Harris said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                      @canefan and Ben Skeen to act as the TMO lol

                      World rugby report that 3 ABs were cited following an intervention from TMO Ben Skeen during a game of warmup touch rugby, Beauden Barrett for being too fast, Sevu Reece for scoring too many tries and Kieran Read just because.

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                        Feel almost dirty typing this, but the wisest thing have read about the cancellations is this tweet from Stephen Jones of the Sunday Times:

                        https://twitter.com/stephenjones9/status/1182330402469335041?s=20

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                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                          @Snowy said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                          @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                          It's late in the typhoon season, this is a super typhoon and its projected path takes out most of the viable venues and traffic routes on a busy weekend.

                          The worst Typhoons are usually late in the season and they hit japan. Some other contingencies could have been arranged I think.

                          Like? Book all the hotels? Book all the stadiums? For the entirety of the pool stage?

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                          @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                          @Snowy said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                          @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                          It's late in the typhoon season, this is a super typhoon and its projected path takes out most of the viable venues and traffic routes on a busy weekend.

                          The worst Typhoons are usually late in the season and they hit japan. Some other contingencies could have been arranged I think.

                          Like? Book all the hotels? Book all the stadiums? For the entirety of the pool stage?

                          Still play the match somewhere else even if an empty stadium. Only teams and officials need to be there.

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                          • ChrisC Chris

                            @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                            https://twitter.com/Lovelyhoneybees/status/1182095382420963328

                            Note to one self do not Rent a Van when visiting Japan.

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                            @Chris I particularly liked the guys riding a bike (trying to) all the while clutching an umbrella.

                            Pretty handy metaphor for Italy's chances if the game had gone ahead actually - facing the All Blacks storming at you is like riding a bike into a typhoon with only an umbrella to protect you....

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                              So let me get this straight, Vunipola is has a minor injury and other members of the team are ill, but Brian Moore specifically calls out NZ for wanting to stick by the rules (which is hilarious in and of itself).

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                              • mofitzy_M mofitzy_

                                So let me get this straight, Vunipola is has a minor injury and other members of the team are ill, but Brian Moore specifically calls out NZ for wanting to stick by the rules (which is hilarious in and of itself).

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                                @mofitzy_ said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                So let me get this straight, Vunipola is has a minor injury and other members of the team are ill, but Brian Moore specifically calls out NZ for wanting to stick by the rules (which is hilarious in and of itself).

                                Link?

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                                  Which part?

                                  England/Vunipola is googleable, Brian Moore posted on twitter that NZ declined playing the game later (no source) but omits mentioning England or France..

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                                    Weather report is looking pretty bad, so the cancellation decision looks like it was best. Also looks like Sunday will be fine (actually, the day after a typhoon is usually a cracker), assuming it moves at the predicted pace (which didn’t happen to the one last year and ended up making the damage worse).

                                    Still too early to tell what time things will file through and exactly whether Nagoya or Tokyo or both will get the full force. Nevertheless, they’ve cancelled all domestic (and international too I imagine) flights from Tokyo and will stop the Shinks (and major JR lines too) from late tonight.

                                    For that reason alone, I can see why they’ve decided to cancel. Having said that, I’m not quite sure why the cancellation was required yesterday - they could still do it lunchtime today and it would have made more sense.

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                                      @gt12 said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                      (actually, the day after a typhoon is usually a cracker)

                                      in my experience, fucking hot, and fucking still. And with the power out, not much to do except drink beer.

                                      This World Cup is certainly turning out to be memorable anyway.

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                                        If the NZ-Italy and England-France games were brought forward to today were there venues available to play in? The Stuff article says NZ were willing to do that but WR declined. There is only one game today so they could have been played at the same times.

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                                          It would be really interesting to see how this affects things in the camps.

                                          These Cup runs would have been planned to some very fine detail. Training loads, game minutes, specific work-ons and plans, all would have been built around 4 games in the time frames provided, with a view to be peaking for the next 3 weeks. For a couple of teams, that is out the window now.

                                          England are probably happier than we are, as dropping a loseable, top-level test a week out from knock-outs is not a bad thing. We, however, have dropped a tune-up. The coaches would have based rotations and loads around 40-80 minutes of running around this week. You'll never get a straight answer, but i hope to read about it at some point.

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