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Black Caps v India

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  • No QuarterN No Quarter

    It just builds a case for playing more cricket at the Basin if not even India can attract a decent crowd.

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    @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

    It just builds a case for playing more cricket at the Basin if not even India can attract a decent crowd.

    Lying on a bank or spacious white seats vs shitty yellow plastic ones.....No comparison.

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    • MN5M MN5

      @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

      It just builds a case for playing more cricket at the Basin if not even India can attract a decent crowd.

      Lying on a bank or spacious white seats vs shitty yellow plastic ones.....No comparison.

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      @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

      @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

      It just builds a case for playing more cricket at the Basin if not even India can attract a decent crowd.

      Lying on a bank or spacious white seats vs shitty yellow plastic ones.....No comparison.

      Yeah. Shorter games - Rugby, T20s etc can work at the stadium, but 6+ hours in those shitty seats is a bit much. I'd say people get put off at Eden park for the same reasons - man Auckland needs a proper cricket ground.

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      • No QuarterN No Quarter

        @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

        @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

        It just builds a case for playing more cricket at the Basin if not even India can attract a decent crowd.

        Lying on a bank or spacious white seats vs shitty yellow plastic ones.....No comparison.

        Yeah. Shorter games - Rugby, T20s etc can work at the stadium, but 6+ hours in those shitty seats is a bit much. I'd say people get put off at Eden park for the same reasons - man Auckland needs a proper cricket ground.

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        @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

        @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

        @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

        It just builds a case for playing more cricket at the Basin if not even India can attract a decent crowd.

        Lying on a bank or spacious white seats vs shitty yellow plastic ones.....No comparison.

        Yeah. Shorter games - Rugby, T20s etc can work at the stadium, but 6+ hours in those shitty seats is a bit much. I'd say people get put off at Eden park for the same reasons - man Auckland needs a proper cricket ground.

        Especially when there's a T20 at said stadium a few days later.

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        • No QuarterN No Quarter

          @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

          @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

          It just builds a case for playing more cricket at the Basin if not even India can attract a decent crowd.

          Lying on a bank or spacious white seats vs shitty yellow plastic ones.....No comparison.

          Yeah. Shorter games - Rugby, T20s etc can work at the stadium, but 6+ hours in those shitty seats is a bit much. I'd say people get put off at Eden park for the same reasons - man Auckland needs a proper cricket ground.

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          @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

          @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

          @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

          It just builds a case for playing more cricket at the Basin if not even India can attract a decent crowd.

          Lying on a bank or spacious white seats vs shitty yellow plastic ones.....No comparison.

          Yeah. Shorter games - Rugby, T20s etc can work at the stadium, but 6+ hours in those shitty seats is a bit much. I'd say people get put off at Eden park for the same reasons - man Auckland needs a proper cricket ground.

          Yeah a mate of mine in our fb group chat whinged that none of us went then later on he whinged how shit it was.

          I was perfectly happy watching from the couch

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          • Baron Silas GreenbackB Baron Silas Greenback

            @Chris-B said in Black Caps v India:

            @Cyclops Yeah - I'm surprised Kane didn't bowl at all in this series.

            I think it is crazy. He is a decent 7th option, and a decent 2nd spin option on some pitches. Plus he can buy wickets, which is sometimes just what is needed in ODI's

            My WC team would be
            Nicholls
            Guptill
            Williamson
            Taylor
            Latham
            Munro
            Neesham
            De Grandhomme
            Sodhi
            Ferguson
            Boult

            Boult, Ferguson, Sodhi to bowl 10 each, with Neesham, De Grandhomme, Munro and Williamson to share the other 20.

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            @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India:

            @Chris-B said in Black Caps v India:

            @Cyclops Yeah - I'm surprised Kane didn't bowl at all in this series.

            I think it is crazy. He is a decent 7th option, and a decent 2nd spin option on some pitches. Plus he can buy wickets, which is sometimes just what is needed in ODI's

            My WC team would be
            Nicholls
            Guptill
            Williamson
            Taylor
            Latham
            Munro
            Neesham
            De Grandhomme
            Sodhi
            Ferguson
            Boult

            Boult, Ferguson, Sodhi to bowl 10 each, with Neesham, De Grandhomme, Munro and Williamson to share the other 20.

            I think the last two ODIs have shown that we need three frontline seamers. Henry and Boult both bowled out early or had got through 6-7 over spells early in those games meaning we struggled at the death having to improvise. Having a third genuine pace bowling option would mean that we could mix up the attack a bit more and still have resources up our sleeve. The exception to that is on genuine spinning pitches where you want two frontline spinners.

            I agree with you on the mix-and-match batting allrounders/part-timers for the 5th bowler though. I feel like T20 has shown that rapidly changing bowlers (never more than spells of 2-3 overs) still allows bowlers to be effective so I think that we need to be more variable in who bowls.

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            • No QuarterN No Quarter

              @akan004 said in Black Caps v India:

              So the biggest city in NZ with by far and away the largest Indian population doesn't get a ODI. Do these guys not like making money?

              NZC had a falling out with Eden Park I believe. Lots of issues, including people that live in the area being absolute fucking killjoys and making it difficult to have events that go past a certain time. But also that it's not a cricket ground. I'm sure other posters can elaborate further but the situation is an absolute farce.

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              @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

              @akan004 said in Black Caps v India:

              So the biggest city in NZ with by far and away the largest Indian population doesn't get a ODI. Do these guys not like making money?

              NZC had a falling out with Eden Park I believe. Lots of issues, including people that live in the area being absolute fucking killjoys and making it difficult to have events that go past a certain time. But also that it's not a cricket ground. I'm sure other posters can elaborate further but the situation is an absolute farce.

              Actually it comes done to the fact the Eden Park games need to finish by 10PM but Star Sports want the games to start at 3PM. I guess NZC must make more from the broadcasting rights than they do from ticket sales:
              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12092682

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              • L LABCAT

                @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                @akan004 said in Black Caps v India:

                So the biggest city in NZ with by far and away the largest Indian population doesn't get a ODI. Do these guys not like making money?

                NZC had a falling out with Eden Park I believe. Lots of issues, including people that live in the area being absolute fucking killjoys and making it difficult to have events that go past a certain time. But also that it's not a cricket ground. I'm sure other posters can elaborate further but the situation is an absolute farce.

                Actually it comes done to the fact the Eden Park games need to finish by 10PM but Star Sports want the games to start at 3PM. I guess NZC must make more from the broadcasting rights than they do from ticket sales:
                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12092682

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                @LABCAT Look at you dropping fact bombs.

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                • Baron Silas GreenbackB Baron Silas Greenback

                  @Chris-B said in Black Caps v India:

                  @Cyclops Yeah - I'm surprised Kane didn't bowl at all in this series.

                  I think it is crazy. He is a decent 7th option, and a decent 2nd spin option on some pitches. Plus he can buy wickets, which is sometimes just what is needed in ODI's

                  My WC team would be
                  Nicholls
                  Guptill
                  Williamson
                  Taylor
                  Latham
                  Munro
                  Neesham
                  De Grandhomme
                  Sodhi
                  Ferguson
                  Boult

                  Boult, Ferguson, Sodhi to bowl 10 each, with Neesham, De Grandhomme, Munro and Williamson to share the other 20.

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                  @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Black Caps v India:

                  My WC team would be
                  Nicholls
                  Guptill
                  Williamson
                  Taylor
                  Latham
                  Munro
                  Neesham
                  De Grandhomme
                  Sodhi
                  Ferguson
                  Boult

                  Boult, Ferguson, Sodhi to bowl 10 each, with Neesham, De Grandhomme, Munro and Williamson to share the other 20.

                  It's concerning that the only bowler who's a certainty is Boult (and to a lesser extent Neesham).

                  I don't think we can afford twenty overs of the Colins and Jimmy (and Kane not bowling himself) and I don't really think their batting warrants two Colins. I'm not even sure about one! 🙂

                  Sodhi or Santner? Sodhi always looks a bit more likely to take wickets, but that doesn't necessarily seem to translate to reality. That should be the primary consideration, but if it's a tie then Santner's batting is better.

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                  • L LABCAT

                    @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                    @akan004 said in Black Caps v India:

                    So the biggest city in NZ with by far and away the largest Indian population doesn't get a ODI. Do these guys not like making money?

                    NZC had a falling out with Eden Park I believe. Lots of issues, including people that live in the area being absolute fucking killjoys and making it difficult to have events that go past a certain time. But also that it's not a cricket ground. I'm sure other posters can elaborate further but the situation is an absolute farce.

                    Actually it comes done to the fact the Eden Park games need to finish by 10PM but Star Sports want the games to start at 3PM. I guess NZC must make more from the broadcasting rights than they do from ticket sales:
                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12092682

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                    @LABCAT said in Black Caps v India:

                    @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                    @akan004 said in Black Caps v India:

                    So the biggest city in NZ with by far and away the largest Indian population doesn't get a ODI. Do these guys not like making money?

                    NZC had a falling out with Eden Park I believe. Lots of issues, including people that live in the area being absolute fucking killjoys and making it difficult to have events that go past a certain time. But also that it's not a cricket ground. I'm sure other posters can elaborate further but the situation is an absolute farce.

                    Actually it comes done to the fact the Eden Park games need to finish by 10PM but Star Sports want the games to start at 3PM. I guess NZC must make more from the broadcasting rights than they do from ticket sales:
                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12092682

                    Well yeah, as per my post it's difficult to have events that go past a certain time. That they make most of their money through broadcasting when playing India is self-evident, but not the root cause of the problem.

                    NZC have also made it clear they are not happy with Eden Park as a venue:
                    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/cricket/unaffordable-and-wrong-size-nz-cricket-sink-boot-into-eden-park-they-push-new-auckland-international-venue?variant=tb_v_1

                    It's not just the Indian series. Two matches for the whole summer against Sri Lanka, India and Bangladesh paints a pretty clear picture. Auckland is in desperate need of a proper cricket ground.

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                    • No QuarterN No Quarter

                      @LABCAT said in Black Caps v India:

                      @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                      @akan004 said in Black Caps v India:

                      So the biggest city in NZ with by far and away the largest Indian population doesn't get a ODI. Do these guys not like making money?

                      NZC had a falling out with Eden Park I believe. Lots of issues, including people that live in the area being absolute fucking killjoys and making it difficult to have events that go past a certain time. But also that it's not a cricket ground. I'm sure other posters can elaborate further but the situation is an absolute farce.

                      Actually it comes done to the fact the Eden Park games need to finish by 10PM but Star Sports want the games to start at 3PM. I guess NZC must make more from the broadcasting rights than they do from ticket sales:
                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12092682

                      Well yeah, as per my post it's difficult to have events that go past a certain time. That they make most of their money through broadcasting when playing India is self-evident, but not the root cause of the problem.

                      NZC have also made it clear they are not happy with Eden Park as a venue:
                      https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/cricket/unaffordable-and-wrong-size-nz-cricket-sink-boot-into-eden-park-they-push-new-auckland-international-venue?variant=tb_v_1

                      It's not just the Indian series. Two matches for the whole summer against Sri Lanka, India and Bangladesh paints a pretty clear picture. Auckland is in desperate need of a proper cricket ground.

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                      @No-Quarter Is the Speedway still the preferred place? Traffic around there would be a nightmare.

                      I remember Jeremy Wells pushing for a cricket venue in Victoria Park but people said it wouldn't work (this was before Hagley Oval worked).

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                      • ToddyT Toddy

                        Which cricket ground had the highest attendance in the India series? Was Wellington the worst?

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                        @Toddy All I know is thank you for all of the Indian supporters otherwise there would have been no-one in the stands

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                          Just realised the BCs have a warm-up (or confidence breaker) against India at the Oval followed by another potential embarrassment against the Windies two days later in Bristol.
                          The Oval game should see good attendance from the usual cricket mad Indian crowd but a Windies game up the road from Brixton would have been a better fixture if it had rolled that way.

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                          • SneakdefreakS Sneakdefreak

                            @No-Quarter Is the Speedway still the preferred place? Traffic around there would be a nightmare.

                            I remember Jeremy Wells pushing for a cricket venue in Victoria Park but people said it wouldn't work (this was before Hagley Oval worked).

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                            @Sneakdefreak said in Black Caps v India:

                            @No-Quarter Is the Speedway still the preferred place? Traffic around there would be a nightmare.

                            I remember Jeremy Wells pushing for a cricket venue in Victoria Park but people said it wouldn't work (this was before Hagley Oval worked).

                            I have no idea TBH, it's a pretty difficult problem to solve. Eden Park is obviously not going to work long-term though, it's a joke that I have basically no international cricket to take my family too, especially now my boy is getting an interest in the game.

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                            • No QuarterN No Quarter

                              @Sneakdefreak said in Black Caps v India:

                              @No-Quarter Is the Speedway still the preferred place? Traffic around there would be a nightmare.

                              I remember Jeremy Wells pushing for a cricket venue in Victoria Park but people said it wouldn't work (this was before Hagley Oval worked).

                              I have no idea TBH, it's a pretty difficult problem to solve. Eden Park is obviously not going to work long-term though, it's a joke that I have basically no international cricket to take my family too, especially now my boy is getting an interest in the game.

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                              @No-Quarter I always favoured developing the old Avondale Racecourse into a test cricket venue, making it home to Suburbs New Lynn and Auckland Cricket in the process. But that will be turned into residential/commercial property when it's finally sold.

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                              • SneakdefreakS Sneakdefreak

                                @No-Quarter I always favoured developing the old Avondale Racecourse into a test cricket venue, making it home to Suburbs New Lynn and Auckland Cricket in the process. But that will be turned into residential/commercial property when it's finally sold.

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                                @Sneakdefreak said in Black Caps v India:

                                @No-Quarter I always favoured developing the old Avondale Racecourse into a test cricket venue, making it home to Suburbs New Lynn and Auckland Cricket in the process. But that will be turned into residential/commercial property when it's finally sold.

                                Due to be sold in next couple of years too

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                                  Eden Park is sold out for the T20 double header on Friday.

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                                    Will visiting team supporters outnumber home team fans?

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                                      Munro's T20 record is insane. 33 average at a 162(!!) SR with 3 tons. This is his forte.

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                                        Handy start.

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                                          Why isnt Seifert an ODI opener option?

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