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Black Caps v India

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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    Why isnt Seifert an ODI opener option?

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    @KiwiMurph said in Black Caps v India:

    Why isnt Seifert an ODI opener option?

    I think he's sort of Munro Junior. Or Guppy as a test player.

    In T20, you can come out and pretty much swing at everything. In ODIs, you've got to be a bit more circumspect and the consequences of getting out are far higher.

    Weird thing is - if Munro had the same stats in ODIs as he does in T20, I'd say go with him. Average of 33 with a strike rate of 161. Somehow, the psychology is different.

    Comms were saying that the bowlers have different strategies. But, if that's the case why don't they employ the same ODI strategies to Munro in T20s?

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    • Chris B.C Chris B.

      @KiwiMurph said in Black Caps v India:

      Why isnt Seifert an ODI opener option?

      I think he's sort of Munro Junior. Or Guppy as a test player.

      In T20, you can come out and pretty much swing at everything. In ODIs, you've got to be a bit more circumspect and the consequences of getting out are far higher.

      Weird thing is - if Munro had the same stats in ODIs as he does in T20, I'd say go with him. Average of 33 with a strike rate of 161. Somehow, the psychology is different.

      Comms were saying that the bowlers have different strategies. But, if that's the case why don't they employ the same ODI strategies to Munro in T20s?

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      @Chris-B I reckon he's worth a go somewhere in the lineup. Even if you wanted to open with Latham and have this fella further down the order. Black Caps ODI team badly need batting help. I see he has a first class average of 37 with 4 centuries.

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        @Chris-B I reckon he's worth a go somewhere in the lineup. Even if you wanted to open with Latham and have this fella further down the order. Black Caps ODI team badly need batting help. I see he has a first class average of 37 with 4 centuries.

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        @KiwiMurph He can certainly bat and I'd say he's well in the mix for the reserves for the CWC.

        You can basically pick your first choice XI - and then balance suggests you pick one reserve seamer, spinner, keeper and batsman.

        But, they could try to open more options by making Nicholls their reserve keeper - especially, because Seifert is also definitely not great with the gloves.

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          An hour ago this fella Seifert was being overlooked for the odi squad by nearly all of us here, and justifiably so.

          He's still not good enough for the one day team, but that was a nice wee chapter in his development. He's got the game so we know to keep giving him resources, but no need to rush him in as a cure all for our recent weak batting performances.

          Needs lots of work on his keeping too as I recall

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            Watched a lot of Seifert for ND, he is a very good keeper.
            I rate Watling and Blundell higher but nobody else.

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            • SiamS Siam

              An hour ago this fella Seifert was being overlooked for the odi squad by nearly all of us here, and justifiably so.

              He's still not good enough for the one day team, but that was a nice wee chapter in his development. He's got the game so we know to keep giving him resources, but no need to rush him in as a cure all for our recent weak batting performances.

              Needs lots of work on his keeping too as I recall

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              @Siam Seifert not good enough for the ODI team but Colin Munro hogs up a spot with his awful technique? Can't agree with you there.

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                Need CDG and Rosco to finish strong here.

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                  Does this dude not like easy catches or something?

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                    Poor old "DK" is having a rough day.

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                      This is such a shit collapse after a really good start.

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                      • MokeyM Mokey

                        This is such a shit collapse after a really good start.

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                        @Mokey said in Black Caps v India:

                        This is such a shit collapse after a really good start.

                        Kuggeleijn is finishing strong. Going to be one hell of a run chase if India get close.

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                          So we scored more than in a couple of ODI's and only slightly less than a couple others?

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                          • No QuarterN No Quarter

                            @Mokey said in Black Caps v India:

                            This is such a shit collapse after a really good start.

                            Kuggeleijn is finishing strong. Going to be one hell of a run chase if India get close.

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                            @No-Quarter Yeah, kinda wish he'd come in earlier. It seems a bit fucking crazy that Santner is ahead of him in the batting lineup.

                            India chasing 220.

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              @Siam Seifert not good enough for the ODI team but Colin Munro hogs up a spot with his awful technique? Can't agree with you there.

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                              @KiwiMurph Oh I don't want munro either mate

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                              • Baron Silas GreenbackB Baron Silas Greenback

                                Watched a lot of Seifert for ND, he is a very good keeper.
                                I rate Watling and Blundell higher but nobody else.

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                                @Baron-Silas-Greenback Yeah my sample size is too small.

                                Still not international standard yet, but we'll worth an investment

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                                  That's a Bond-esque ripper of a delivery from Ferg.

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                                  • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                    That's a Bond-esque ripper of a delivery from Ferg.

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                                    @No-Quarter Yeah - there's a lot of merit to bowling a yorker.

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                                      Now Santner Claus delivers another wicket. Dhoni is going to have to dial the clock back 10 years to pull this one out of the fire.

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                                        Great catch, he made that look easy.

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                                          Who cares about shits and giggles ODIs anyway? T20s is where it's at.

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