AB squad for the Rugby Championship
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@gt12 I think (when not injured) Crotty has been pretty much a first choice midfielder for the past three years. He's only once come off the bench and played the big tests. So the selectors know pretty much exactly where his form is - which is a fair bit different to SBW. In my view, if all five are fit it will come down to a choice between Laumape and SBW and I think Sonny will win that. But, I think the only guy who can really confidently buy some yen travellers cheques at present is probably Goodhue - though ALB can probably at least check out where the bank is.
http://stats.allblacks.com/asp/teamsheet.asp?MT_ID=2303
Edit: I'll be interested to see the details of Frizell's game if you get around to it.
@Stargazer Technically I don't think Crotty (or Scott Barrett) are part of the 34 - but, he's definitely a part of the midfield equation.
@Bovidae @Wurzel Crikey! Even though Tim Perry is a good Mako man, I think I'll be happier if he's playing for them!
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Tim Perry was ready to retire before this season started. Hansen called him up and convinced him to play.
That, and the fact he’s been training with the squad suggests they definitely rate him.
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@SammyC That surprises me, because Tim's not that old and played in six tests last year - I'd have thought he'd be absolutely raring to go.
I bet he'd have been thrilled to break his arm five minutes into the season!
@Chris-B said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
@SammyC That surprises me, because Tim's not that old and played in six tests last year - I'd have thought he'd be absolutely raring to go.
I bet he'd have been thrilled to break his arm five minutes into the season!
Apparently he loves drinking!
Wanted to retire, go back to farm work and enjoy a few drinks. Doesn't really want to be a professional rugby player. Hansen called him up and suggested otherwise.
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So the cull is announced tomorrow, I wonder if at the traditional stupid o'clock in the morning?
We lost a whole point against the boks in the world rankings with the draw, so boks jumped England into fourth. And a loss against Oz means Wales number 1. Which we probably won't get back even if we then beat them at Eden park afterwards
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Any chance Nathan Harris will come back in? Neither of Aumua or Coltman have thrown competently.
@Tim said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
Any chance Nathan Harris will come back in? Neither of Aumua or Coltman have thrown competently.
Coltman is so frustrating, he's great around the field, but couldn't hit a bull's ass with a barn shovel when he is throwing to the line out.
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@Tim said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
Any chance Nathan Harris will come back in? Neither of Aumua or Coltman have thrown competently.
Coltman is so frustrating, he's great around the field, but couldn't hit a bull's ass with a barn shovel when he is throwing to the line out.
@gt12 said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
@Tim said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
Any chance Nathan Harris will come back in? Neither of Aumua or Coltman have thrown competently.
Coltman is so frustrating, he's great around the field, but couldn't hit a bull's ass with a barn shovel when he is throwing to the line out.
What irritates me about that is it's an easy thing to fix. A mate of mine that studied in Dunedin told me he watched Anton practice throwing on a basketball court and every throw of the rugby ball got nothing but net. This during a time when our lineout was pants. There's no excuse for not being able to throw accurately and consistently.
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@gt12 said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
@Tim said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
Any chance Nathan Harris will come back in? Neither of Aumua or Coltman have thrown competently.
Coltman is so frustrating, he's great around the field, but couldn't hit a bull's ass with a barn shovel when he is throwing to the line out.
What irritates me about that is it's an easy thing to fix. A mate of mine that studied in Dunedin told me he watched Anton practice throwing on a basketball court and every throw of the rugby ball got nothing but net. This during a time when our lineout was pants. There's no excuse for not being able to throw accurately and consistently.
@antipodean said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
@gt12 said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
@Tim said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
Any chance Nathan Harris will come back in? Neither of Aumua or Coltman have thrown competently.
Coltman is so frustrating, he's great around the field, but couldn't hit a bull's ass with a barn shovel when he is throwing to the line out.
What irritates me about that is it's an easy thing to fix. A mate of mine that studied in Dunedin told me he watched Anton practice throwing on a basketball court and every throw of the rugby ball got nothing but net. This during a time when our lineout was pants. There's no excuse for not being able to throw accurately and consistently.
Hmmm....doesn't that point to it being not so easy to fix?
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@Wurzel said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
Revised squad named at 10am
Only thing that would make it interesting would be if the 5 names read out are
Read, B. Smith, Coles, Franks, SBW
"Time to inject youth"
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Any chance Nathan Harris will come back in? Neither of Aumua or Coltman have thrown competently.
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@Tim no way. Harris is even worse.
@Canes4life I find that hard to believe. Especially compared to Aumua.
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@Wurzel said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
Revised squad named at 10am
Only thing that would make it interesting would be if the 5 names read out are
Read, B. Smith, Coles, Franks, SBW
"Time to inject youth"
@Billy-Tell said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
"Time to inject youth"
Hansen is ruthless. I think the only person there who may get a bit of leniency is Reado - and I think they will still back him to peak for a few games in Sept/Oct.
Last RWC they left Dagg at home when he'd been excellent, and got rid of Jane prior to that ( I think). I have no concerns about their ability to drop players they don't think are up to it.
finally, we don't know the training load these players are under. There's an argument that we've been flogged in trianing, and looking to taper for the Cup -- that all of our sluggish, shitty losses are due to smashing the players during the week. I don't know if I see it,but it's a theory
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Any chance Nathan Harris will come back in? Neither of Aumua or Coltman have thrown competently.
@Tim said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
Any chance Nathan Harris will come back in? Neither of Aumua or Coltman have thrown competently.
Has Aumua even played?
Harris is going to have to rely on something else if he is to get back in because his throwing is just as bad as the others.
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@Tim said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
Any chance Nathan Harris will come back in? Neither of Aumua or Coltman have thrown competently.
Has Aumua even played?
Harris is going to have to rely on something else if he is to get back in because his throwing is just as bad as the others.
@pukunui said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
@Tim said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
Any chance Nathan Harris will come back in? Neither of Aumua or Coltman have thrown competently.
Has Aumua even played?
No, he and Josh Ioane haven't had any game time.
Edited to add: Neither has Tu'inukuafe, but he's not an unknown at test level.
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@pukunui said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
@Tim said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
Any chance Nathan Harris will come back in? Neither of Aumua or Coltman have thrown competently.
Has Aumua even played?
No, he and Josh Ioane haven't had any game time.
Edited to add: Neither has Tu'inukuafe, but he's not an unknown at test level.
@Stargazer said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
@pukunui said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
@Tim said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:
Any chance Nathan Harris will come back in? Neither of Aumua or Coltman have thrown competently.
Has Aumua even played?
No, he and Josh Ioane haven't had any game time.
Edited to add: Neither has Tu'inukuafe, but he's not an unknown at test level.
Basically he’s a known known whereas the others are known unknowns.
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All Blacks squad for the Bledisloe Cup:
Forwards
Hookers: Dane Coles, Liam Coltman and Codie Taylor.
Props: Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Joe Moody, Atu Moli, Angus Ta'avao and Ofa Tuungafasi.
Locks: Scott Barrett, Jackson Hemopo, Patrick Tuipulotu and Samuel Whitelock.
Loose forwards: Sam Cane, Vaea Fifita, Luke Jacobson, Kieran Read, Ardie Savea and Matt Todd.Backs
Halfbacks: TJ Perenara, Aaron Smith and Brad Weber.
First five-eighths: Beauden Barrett and Richie Mo'unga.
Midfielders: Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape, Anton Lienert-Brown and Sonny Bill Williams.
Utility backs: Braydon Ennor and Jordie Barrett.
Outside backs: George Bridge, Rieko Ioane, Sevu Reece and Ben Smith.Hansen further added that first five-eighth Josh Ioane had also been invited to assemble with the squad to continue his development. Meanwhile, Nepo Laulala and Sonny Bill Williams will both play for Counties Manukau in a pre-Mitre 10 Cup season game on Saturday. Laulala will then join the squad in Perth, while Williams will stay and play Counties Manukau's Mitre 10 Cup season opener on Saturday August 10, before joining the squad in Auckland for the second Bledisloe Cup Test week.http://www.allblacks.com/News/34477/all-blacks-squad-named-for-bledisloe-cup-tests
