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AB squad for the Rugby Championship

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  • pukunuiP pukunui

    If height is the most important attribute for a 6 then Fifita is your man. If actual skill as a rugby player is more important then Cane becomes an option.

    I don’t think our lineout has been world class for the last 10 years because of the height of our 6. It has been our world class locks and hookers who could actually throw straight. Add Read to that at 8 and that is 99% of it there.
    Having good lifting props like Franks and Haymen has probably been a factor too. I know when i used to jump in the lineout it made a huge difference to have a good lifter.

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    @pukunui said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

    If height is the most important attribute for a 6 then Fifita is your man. If actual skill as a rugby player is more important then Cane becomes an option.

    I think I'm on the Hemopo at 6 bandwagon. 🙂

    I guess part of the answer to your puzzle is why did Hansen specifically rule out playing Ardie and Sam at six and seven?

    Tbh it won't surprise me if he has to renege on that at some point, but you know he doesn't want to, so whatever he says subsequently will be making a virtue of a necessity.

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      Hemopo too slow to be a 6 ??
      Otherwise, I can't figure out why he hasn't been given more time.

      Very happy if Jacobson or Read goes to 6

      Nightmare selection is Fa'afafine at 6.

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        Hemopo too slow to be a 6 ??
        Otherwise, I can't figure out why he hasn't been given more time.

        Very happy if Jacobson or Read goes to 6

        Nightmare selection is Fa'afafine at 6.

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        @Frank I really can't see Read going to 6. He's started two tests at 6 and 110 at No. 8.

        If they play a trio of Ardie, Cane and Read, I think they'd play Cane at 6, where he's played a fair bit for the Chiefs.

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          At the presser yesterday Hansen was asked again about Read at 6. He just smiled and said they had a plan for the no.6 jersey while not giving anything away. Cryptic.

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            At the presser yesterday Hansen was asked again about Read at 6. He just smiled and said they had a plan for the no.6 jersey while not giving anything away. Cryptic.

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            @Bovidae Best part is that he's got a plan.

            Chieka's not going to know what it is, either - unless he bugs the control room! 🙂

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              At the presser yesterday Hansen was asked again about Read at 6. He just smiled and said they had a plan for the no.6 jersey while not giving anything away. Cryptic.

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              @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

              At the presser yesterday Hansen was asked again about Read at 6. He just smiled and said they had a plan for the no.6 jersey while not giving anything away. Cryptic.

              SBW to 6! Should have happened years ago.

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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                At the presser yesterday Hansen was asked again about Read at 6. He just smiled and said they had a plan for the no.6 jersey while not giving anything away. Cryptic.

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                @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                At the presser yesterday Hansen was asked again about Read at 6. He just smiled and said they had a plan for the no.6 jersey while not giving anything away. Cryptic.

                Carl Hayman to make a shock return at blindside........

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  At the presser yesterday Hansen was asked again about Read at 6. He just smiled and said they had a plan for the no.6 jersey while not giving anything away. Cryptic.

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                  @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                  At the presser yesterday Hansen was asked again about Read at 6. He just smiled and said they had a plan for the no.6 jersey while not giving anything away. Cryptic.

                  Link ??

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                    @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                    At the presser yesterday Hansen was asked again about Read at 6. He just smiled and said they had a plan for the no.6 jersey while not giving anything away. Cryptic.

                    Link ??

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                    The video has been uploaded in this article.

                    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/rugby-world-cup-2019/2019/07/rugby-world-cup-2019-all-blacks-cut-four-players-for-bledisloe-cup-tests.html

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                      Grant Fox -"This goes to the heart of a debate that people think we don't quite understand what our best loose forward combination is or where we sit with six. The answer is we do, but we're not prepared to announce that now."

                      "There's three areas which won't surprise anyone," Fox said of where the selectors have the most dialogue. "Loose forwards is one of them, even though we're very clear on where we're going, there's still a lot of discussion because there's a lot of depth there.

                      Perhaps that simply means Squire to come back.

                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12254727

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                        @Frank said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                        Perhaps that simply means Squire to come back.

                        oh well fuck, that changes every thing. Hallelujah, we're saved...

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          @Frank said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                          Perhaps that simply means Squire to come back.

                          oh well fuck, that changes every thing. Hallelujah, we're saved...

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                          @mariner4life I'm hopefully going to the Ta$man-Otago game tomorrow night and will keep an eye out for Hansen sitting in the stand.

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                            Grant Fox -"This goes to the heart of a debate that people think we don't quite understand what our best loose forward combination is or where we sit with six. The answer is we do, but we're not prepared to announce that now."

                            "There's three areas which won't surprise anyone," Fox said of where the selectors have the most dialogue. "Loose forwards is one of them, even though we're very clear on where we're going, there's still a lot of discussion because there's a lot of depth there.

                            Perhaps that simply means Squire to come back.

                            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12254727

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                            @Frank I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that's true. They may well be whittling away at the loose forward contenders who will make up the rest of the squad.

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                              @mariner4life I'm hopefully going to the Ta$man-Otago game tomorrow night and will keep an eye out for Hansen sitting in the stand.

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                              @Chris-B Check the pie cart first. 🙂

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                                It seems there's a bit too much stock/trust put in things Hansen says in pressers. How many times has he said things like Hemopo is a 6 only, Barrett is a 10 only, Cane/Savea/Read won't play together...

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                                  It seems there's a bit too much stock/trust put in things Hansen says in pressers. How many times has he said things like Hemopo is a 6 only, Barrett is a 10 only, Cane/Savea/Read won't play together...

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                                  @Bones said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                                  It seems there's a bit too much stock/trust put in things Hansen says in pressers. How many times has he said things like Hemopo is a 6 only, Barrett is a 10 only, Cane/Savea/Read won't play together...

                                  he absolutely just makes shit up on the fly to throw everyone off what he is actually thinking

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                                    I’m hoping like hell , read is just going through the motions and saving himself to peak later, like Richie and dc were doing this time in 2015.
                                    That didn’t become obvious until the WC stages when they went to another level.

                                    Hopefully some of the other older guys like bsmith likewise

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                                    • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                      I’m hoping like hell , read is just going through the motions and saving himself to peak later, like Richie and dc were doing this time in 2015.
                                      That didn’t become obvious until the WC stages when they went to another level.

                                      Hopefully some of the other older guys like bsmith likewise

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                                      @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                                      I’m hoping like hell , read is just going through the motions and saving himself to peak later, like Richie and dc were doing this time in 2015.
                                      That didn’t become obvious until the WC stages when they went to another level.

                                      ... you mean, say, keeping the powder dry 😄

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                                      • nzzpN nzzp

                                        @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                                        I’m hoping like hell , read is just going through the motions and saving himself to peak later, like Richie and dc were doing this time in 2015.
                                        That didn’t become obvious until the WC stages when they went to another level.

                                        ... you mean, say, keeping the powder dry 😄

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                                        @nzzp said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                                        @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                                        I’m hoping like hell , read is just going through the motions and saving himself to peak later, like Richie and dc were doing this time in 2015.
                                        That didn’t become obvious until the WC stages when they went to another level.

                                        ... you mean, say, keeping the powder dry 😄

                                        As long as he snorts the lions share come RWC.

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                                          Patronising bulshit from Fox.

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