Bledisloe #2
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@mariner4life said in Bledisloe #2:
Yep the starting wingers were definitely the issue
A bit more pace to chase the breaks would be useful, and to make some breaks as well.
Of course I take your point about everything inside that being a bit poo - but if you've got Mounga crossfield kicking to Reece, then that's a combination, right?
What about Barrett 10 Mounga 12?
@NTA said in Bledisloe #2:
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe #2:
Yep the starting wingers were definitely the issue
A bit more pace to chase the breaks would be useful, and to make some breaks as well.
Of course I take your point about everything inside that being a bit poo - but if you've got Mounga crossfield kicking to Reece, then that's a combination, right?
What about Barrett 10 Mounga 12?
Oh Jesus Kerevi would be licking his chops at a Beauden-Mo'unga channel to smash through every time he gets the ball. Which I assume is why you suggested it.
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@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe #2:
A year without the Bledisloe feels like 4 years.
Probably worse down there where the fans are less informed and more bandwagon jumperonerers. It won't be pretty.
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@NTA said in Bledisloe #2:
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe #2:
Yep the starting wingers were definitely the issue
A bit more pace to chase the breaks would be useful, and to make some breaks as well.
Of course I take your point about everything inside that being a bit poo - but if you've got Mounga crossfield kicking to Reece, then that's a combination, right?
What about Barrett 10 Mounga 12?
Oh Jesus Kerevi would be licking his chops at a Beauden-Mo'unga channel to smash through every time he gets the ball. Which I assume is why you suggested it.
@No-Quarter Yes,it would also be a very Australian move. They have shuffled inside backs in the past like Saturday night fever.
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@NTA said in Bledisloe #2:
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe #2:
Yep the starting wingers were definitely the issue
A bit more pace to chase the breaks would be useful, and to make some breaks as well.
Of course I take your point about everything inside that being a bit poo - but if you've got Mounga crossfield kicking to Reece, then that's a combination, right?
What about Barrett 10 Mounga 12?
Oh Jesus Kerevi would be licking his chops at a Beauden-Mo'unga channel to smash through every time he gets the ball. Which I assume is why you suggested it.
@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe #2:
@NTA said in Bledisloe #2:
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe #2:
Yep the starting wingers were definitely the issue
A bit more pace to chase the breaks would be useful, and to make some breaks as well.
Of course I take your point about everything inside that being a bit poo - but if you've got Mounga crossfield kicking to Reece, then that's a combination, right?
What about Barrett 10 Mounga 12?
Oh Jesus Kerevi would be licking his chops at a Beauden-Mo'unga channel to smash through every time he gets the ball. Which I assume is why you suggested it.
Beaugan never defends at 10 off set piece. You all know that.
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look out for plenty of cross field kicks but hopefully we will improve our possession stats
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@Chris said in Bledisloe #2:
@Rancid-Schnitzel I don't want to even contemplate that happening.I couldn't stand the Aussie gloating and waiting 4 more years for WC redemption.
Could be more than 4 years. Was 20 years last time.....
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Bledisloe #2:
@Chris said in Bledisloe #2:
@Rancid-Schnitzel I don't want to even contemplate that happening.I couldn't stand the Aussie gloating and waiting 4 more years for WC redemption.
Could be more than 4 years. Was 20 years last time.....
Fuck even worse I remember that 20 years felt like we would never win the thing again.
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Rory Arnold is out so Coleman starts, Rob Simmons on the bench. Liam Wright (an openside) replaces Luke Jones on the bench. AAC replaces Banks on the bench.
Wallabies to face All Blacks 1. Scott Sio (57 Tests) 2. Tolu Latu (14 Tests) 3. Allan Alaalatoa (33 Tests) 4. Izack Rodda (20 Tests) 5. Adam Coleman (32 Tests) 6. Lukhan Salakaia-Loto (14 Tests) 7. Michael Hooper (c) (94 Tests) 8. Isi Naisarani (3 Tests) 9. Nic White (25 Tests) 10. Christian Lealiifano (21 Tests) 11. Marika Koroibete (22 Tests) 12. Samu Kerevi (vc) (28 Tests) 13. James O’Connor (46 Tests) 14. Reece Hodge (36 Tests) 15. Kurtley Beale (86 Tests) Reserves 16. Folau Fainga’a (10 Tests) 17. James Slipper (89 Tests) 18. Taniela Tupou (14 Tests) 19. Rob Simmons (96 Tests) 20. Liam Wright* 21. Will Genia (103 Tests) 22. Matt To’omua (45 Tests) 23. Adam Ashley-Cooper (117 Tests)https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2019/08/15/bledisloe-cup-wallabies-team
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Though there's a bit more context here...
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12258859
I'd like to hear that whole press conference if anyone knows where to find it.
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Though there's a bit more context here...
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12258859
I'd like to hear that whole press conference if anyone knows where to find it.
@Chris-B This is all I could find, not the complete press conference.
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There's also more info in this article:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12258893
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@Donsteppa said in Bledisloe #2:
Just saw this - for anyone still wondering about combinations being tested:
I actually thought from an effort point of view, reiko had his best game for a while, but do think he has been flat this year
in a well beaten side seemed like he was trying to get involved,
But i only watched it the once, perhaps im wrong, no desire to watch that again
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@Donsteppa said in Bledisloe #2:
Just saw this - for anyone still wondering about combinations being tested:
I actually thought from an effort point of view, reiko had his best game for a while, but do think he has been flat this year
in a well beaten side seemed like he was trying to get involved,
But i only watched it the once, perhaps im wrong, no desire to watch that again
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@kiwiinmelb agreed. Terrible vs Argentina, mediocre vs boks, not bad vs oz, dropped.
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@reprobate Rieko did not play vs Argentina.
@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe #2:
@reprobate Rieko did not play vs Argentina.
Completely invisible. Useless.
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@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe #2:
@reprobate Rieko did not play vs Argentina.
Completely invisible. Useless.
@Snowy said in Bledisloe #2:
@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe #2:
@reprobate Rieko did not play vs Argentina.
Completely invisible. Useless.
Too busy playing Fortnight no doubt. Youngsters today...
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@Snowy said in Bledisloe #2:
@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe #2:
@reprobate Rieko did not play vs Argentina.
Completely invisible. Useless.
Too busy playing Fortnight no doubt. Youngsters today...
@No-Quarter Don't you make me get all curmudgeonly kiddo.
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@mariner4life said in Bledisloe #2:
didn't Ofa play tighthead through the entire Northern tour last year, and handle it more than adequately?
Ofa actually replaced Big Karl at LH in both the Irish and English tests, and started at LH vs Italy. My point is that although Ofa has mainly played TH prop previously he has also been used at LH by both the Blues and ABs, including both tests he has played this year.
The first time I remember Moli at LH was his AB debut off the bench on the 2017 EOYT vs the French XV, when Hansen mentioned they wanted to convert him into a LH prop. Last year he had a serious leg injury and never played. This year Moli had a late start to the SR season, and then was the regular starting LH prop for the Chiefs. He's still learning his trade at LH.
The AB selectors are still trying to finalise their 5 props with 2 spots to find after Moody, Franks and Tu'ungafasi. Laulala gets his opportunity at Eden Park.
@Bovidae said in Bledisloe #2:
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe #2:
didn't Ofa play tighthead through the entire Northern tour last year, and handle it more than adequately?
Ofa actually replaced Big Karl at LH in both the Irish and English tests, and started at LH vs Italy. My point is that although Ofa has mainly played TH prop previously he has also been used at LH by both the Blues and ABs, including both tests he has played this year.
The first time I remember Moli at LH was his AB debut off the bench on the 2017 EOYT vs the French XV, when Hansen mentioned they wanted to convert him into a LH prop. Last year he had a serious leg injury and never played. This year Moli had a late start to the SR season, and then was the regular starting LH prop for the Chiefs. He's still learning his trade at LH.
The AB selectors are still trying to finalise their 5 props with 2 spots to find after Moody, Franks and Tu'ungafasi. Laulala gets his opportunity at Eden Park.
You are quite right. Ofa has plyed there quite a lot and went well on last autumn tour, against fairly average replacement props. That said, he has had some very bad games there -- I seem to recall Blues being mullered by Waratahs with Ofa at LH and Angus at TH. I think his height is a problem when he comes up against shorter THs such as Nyakane. Tupou will be a good hard test.
Moli has seemed alright at LH for Chiefs, certainly much better than Angus at LH. But perhaps too early to judge.
I'm more worried about LH than TH. If Franks were injured Nepo and Ofa in that order can cover. If Moody out then Karl T is out only true starting option against proper scrums.
Looking to RWC for me Moody and Ofa, and probably Angus, are nailed. Then at least one of Franks/Nepo (at least in theory). If after Saturday doubts remain about Ofa at LH then in comes Karl. If Ofa handles Tupou and Nepo performs then Nepo and Owen both travel. I don't see Moli making it.
A. Moody/Karl/Owen/Ofa/Angus
B. Moody/Karl/Nepo/Ofa/Angus
c. Moody/Ofa/Owen/Angus/Nepo
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Reckon Scott Barrett will get the job done on Saturday!
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Rory Arnold is out so Coleman starts, Rob Simmons on the bench. Liam Wright (an openside) replaces Luke Jones on the bench. AAC replaces Banks on the bench.
Wallabies to face All Blacks 1. Scott Sio (57 Tests) 2. Tolu Latu (14 Tests) 3. Allan Alaalatoa (33 Tests) 4. Izack Rodda (20 Tests) 5. Adam Coleman (32 Tests) 6. Lukhan Salakaia-Loto (14 Tests) 7. Michael Hooper (c) (94 Tests) 8. Isi Naisarani (3 Tests) 9. Nic White (25 Tests) 10. Christian Lealiifano (21 Tests) 11. Marika Koroibete (22 Tests) 12. Samu Kerevi (vc) (28 Tests) 13. James O’Connor (46 Tests) 14. Reece Hodge (36 Tests) 15. Kurtley Beale (86 Tests) Reserves 16. Folau Fainga’a (10 Tests) 17. James Slipper (89 Tests) 18. Taniela Tupou (14 Tests) 19. Rob Simmons (96 Tests) 20. Liam Wright* 21. Will Genia (103 Tests) 22. Matt To’omua (45 Tests) 23. Adam Ashley-Cooper (117 Tests)https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2019/08/15/bledisloe-cup-wallabies-team
@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe #2:
Rory Arnold is out so Coleman starts, Rob Simmons on the bench. Liam Wright (an openside) replaces Luke Jones on the bench. AAC replaces Banks on the bench.
Wallabies to face All Blacks 1. Scott Sio (57 Tests) 2. Tolu Latu (14 Tests) 3. Allan Alaalatoa (33 Tests) 4. Izack Rodda (20 Tests) 5. Adam Coleman (32 Tests) 6. Lukhan Salakaia-Loto (14 Tests) 7. Michael Hooper (c) (94 Tests) 8. Isi Naisarani (3 Tests) 9. Nic White (25 Tests) 10. Christian Lealiifano (21 Tests) 11. Marika Koroibete (22 Tests) 12. Samu Kerevi (vc) (28 Tests) 13. James O’Connor (46 Tests) 14. Reece Hodge (36 Tests) 15. Kurtley Beale (86 Tests) Reserves 16. Folau Fainga’a (10 Tests) 17. James Slipper (89 Tests) 18. Taniela Tupou (14 Tests) 19. Rob Simmons (96 Tests) 20. Liam Wright* 21. Will Genia (103 Tests) 22. Matt To’omua (45 Tests) 23. Adam Ashley-Cooper (117 Tests)https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2019/08/15/bledisloe-cup-wallabies-team
Jeez that is a big promotion for Liam Wright. Capable young bloke but what a cauldron to get thrown into!
AAC will add experience in the back end and I've heard the weather won't be entirely friendly, so maybe we're digging the heels in a bit for some trench warfare.
