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RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A)

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    @taniwharugby said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

    @rotated no chance the ABs have prepared for the Irish though is there.

    Sure they will. Both sides targeted last years Dublin test and the ABs came out on the wrong side of it.

    I'm not making any predictions, but whoever plays Ireland in the QF will have to take their best shot and they will look a hell of a lot better than they did against Japan.

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    @rotated last year the focus was more England, a game that had been being talked up for 2 years, the Irish one only started looking more important in the few months leading in.

    At the end of the day, I really dont give a shit who we play, I'd love to win it beating Ireland, England and Wales, and we will have to win every game any way, so who we meet is irrelevant.

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      @rotated last year the focus was more England, a game that had been being talked up for 2 years, the Irish one only started looking more important in the few months leading in.

      At the end of the day, I really dont give a shit who we play, I'd love to win it beating Ireland, England and Wales, and we will have to win every game any way, so who we meet is irrelevant.

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      @taniwharugby said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

      @rotated last year the focus was more England, a game that had been being talked up for 2 years, the Irish one only started looking more important in the few months leading in.

      I think Hansen talked up the Ireland game more, but even if you are right it's hardly a stellar example of the management's ability to prepare for big games this cycle (ditto the Lions tour).

      I don't care who we play either, but call me chicken little if I'm a bit more wary about a side that has depantsed the ABs twice in the past three years than Scotland/Japan who have never beaten the ABs in their history. A QF against Japan or Ireland would be great viewing, Scotland less so.

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        @taniwharugby said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

        @rotated last year the focus was more England, a game that had been being talked up for 2 years, the Irish one only started looking more important in the few months leading in.

        I think Hansen talked up the Ireland game more, but even if you are right it's hardly a stellar example of the management's ability to prepare for big games this cycle (ditto the Lions tour).

        I don't care who we play either, but call me chicken little if I'm a bit more wary about a side that has depantsed the ABs twice in the past three years than Scotland/Japan who have never beaten the ABs in their history. A QF against Japan or Ireland would be great viewing, Scotland less so.

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        @rotated well even more reason for us to want to dispatch them at yet another quarter final.

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          @rotated last year the focus was more England, a game that had been being talked up for 2 years, the Irish one only started looking more important in the few months leading in.

          At the end of the day, I really dont give a shit who we play, I'd love to win it beating Ireland, England and Wales, and we will have to win every game any way, so who we meet is irrelevant.

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          @taniwharugby said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

          @rotated last year the focus was more England, a game that had been being talked up for 2 years, the Irish one only started looking more important in the few months leading in.

          At the end of the day, I really dont give a shit who we play, I'd love to win it beating Ireland, England and Wales, and we will have to win every game any way, so who we meet is irrelevant.

          Framing it this way, at best just shifts the explanation to being evidence that nz can barely handle consecutive hard tests.

          Gutted if we miss the 'easy' quarter. Because we ain't that good. Will need to win 3 toughies in a row now probably.

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            @taniwharugby said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

            @rotated last year the focus was more England, a game that had been being talked up for 2 years, the Irish one only started looking more important in the few months leading in.

            At the end of the day, I really dont give a shit who we play, I'd love to win it beating Ireland, England and Wales, and we will have to win every game any way, so who we meet is irrelevant.

            Framing it this way, at best just shifts the explanation to being evidence that nz can barely handle consecutive hard tests.

            Gutted if we miss the 'easy' quarter. Because we ain't that good. Will need to win 3 toughies in a row now probably.

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            @Rapido as will Ireland if that is who we face, and I cant see them doing that on the evidence of thier play this year.

            As someone else alluded to above, they are gonna have to play thier top lineup again, as they try to top thier pool.

            It will be interesting to see if Japan can replicate that performance again, I'm not sure they can either.

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              @Rapido as will Ireland if that is who we face, and I cant see them doing that on the evidence of thier play this year.

              As someone else alluded to above, they are gonna have to play thier top lineup again, as they try to top thier pool.

              It will be interesting to see if Japan can replicate that performance again, I'm not sure they can either.

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              @taniwharugby said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

              @Rapido as will Ireland if that is who we face, and I cant see them doing that on the evidence of thier play this year.

              As someone else alluded to above, they are gonna have to play thier top lineup again, as they try to top thier pool.

              It will be interesting to see if Japan can replicate that performance again, I'm not sure they can either.

              I don't give a shit about Ireland's run in. They're likely no longer contenders, now. But they're potential party poopers. I prefer a Saf 07 run.

              My own theory about 2015, which is a theory a tad disrespectful to Heyneke's boks, is that NZ spent far to much emotional energy in our 1/4 final dispatching a poor France, because we had demons to exorcise, leaving us still partially spent in our relatively brain dead semifinal performance that we squeaked past.

              Great teams can still get past that, of course, we aren't great though. Were currently 'only' good.

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              • RapidoR Rapido

                @taniwharugby said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                @Rapido as will Ireland if that is who we face, and I cant see them doing that on the evidence of thier play this year.

                As someone else alluded to above, they are gonna have to play thier top lineup again, as they try to top thier pool.

                It will be interesting to see if Japan can replicate that performance again, I'm not sure they can either.

                I don't give a shit about Ireland's run in. They're likely no longer contenders, now. But they're potential party poopers. I prefer a Saf 07 run.

                My own theory about 2015, which is a theory a tad disrespectful to Heyneke's boks, is that NZ spent far to much emotional energy in our 1/4 final dispatching a poor France, because we had demons to exorcise, leaving us still partially spent in our relatively brain dead semifinal performance that we squeaked past.

                Great teams can still get past that, of course, we aren't great though. Were currently 'only' good.

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                Also. Nothing changes with Ireland's personnel planning with that loss.

                B team v Russia, A team v Samoa. As planned. Their "pool-curve" is excellent.

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                • RapidoR Rapido

                  @taniwharugby said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                  @Rapido as will Ireland if that is who we face, and I cant see them doing that on the evidence of thier play this year.

                  As someone else alluded to above, they are gonna have to play thier top lineup again, as they try to top thier pool.

                  It will be interesting to see if Japan can replicate that performance again, I'm not sure they can either.

                  I don't give a shit about Ireland's run in. They're likely no longer contenders, now. But they're potential party poopers. I prefer a Saf 07 run.

                  My own theory about 2015, which is a theory a tad disrespectful to Heyneke's boks, is that NZ spent far to much emotional energy in our 1/4 final dispatching a poor France, because we had demons to exorcise, leaving us still partially spent in our relatively brain dead semifinal performance that we squeaked past.

                  Great teams can still get past that, of course, we aren't great though. Were currently 'only' good.

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                  @Rapido well I dont give a shit who we play.

                  If we cant beat Ireland and/or now see them as the boogeyman then I think we have bigger problems.

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                    @Crucial said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                    I liked how JJ said that he had been planning this one for some time. A bit like how Schmidt had been planning Chicago for some time as a good chance to catch a better team on the hop.

                    Exactly why I have no interest in seeing Ireland for a QF, what game do you think they've been targeting since the pools were drawn? Not Japan that is for sure.

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                    @rotated said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                    @Crucial said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                    I liked how JJ said that he had been planning this one for some time. A bit like how Schmidt had been planning Chicago for some time as a good chance to catch a better team on the hop.

                    Exactly why I have no interest in seeing Ireland for a QF, what game do you think they've been targeting since the pools were drawn? Not Japan that is for sure.

                    Bring it on.

                    What game do you think we are targeting given Dublin 2018?

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      @rotated last year the focus was more England, a game that had been being talked up for 2 years, the Irish one only started looking more important in the few months leading in.

                      At the end of the day, I really dont give a shit who we play, I'd love to win it beating Ireland, England and Wales, and we will have to win every game any way, so who we meet is irrelevant.

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                      @taniwharugby said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                      I'd love to win it beating Ireland, England and Wales, and we will have to win every game any way, so who we meet is irrelevant.

                      I'm pretty excited about this prospect. Would be the most satisfying way to win it

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                      • jeggaJ jegga

                        @Bones said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                        Hopefully this embeds as @jegga might find it tasty.

                        https://www.facebook.com/637222079702985/posts/2518814611543713/

                        Gold

                        Btw the Titanic was built in Ireland

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                        @jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                        Btw the Titanic was built in Ireland

                        Sort of. Belfast, I think.

                        I can't wait to meet Ireland. Put them back in the box.

                        Wales have beaten us too, but not many are alive to remember it.

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                          @jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                          Btw the Titanic was built in Ireland

                          Sort of. Belfast, I think.

                          I can't wait to meet Ireland. Put them back in the box.

                          Wales have beaten us too, but not many are alive to remember it.

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                          @Snowy said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                          @jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                          Btw the Titanic was built in Ireland

                          Sort of. Belfast, I think.

                          I can't wait to meet Ireland. Put them back in the box.

                          Wales have beaten us too, but not many are alive to remember it.

                          Northern Ireland play with Ireland in test rugby and in their provincial comp so they can have an equal share of the titanic .

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                            @Snowy said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                            @jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                            Btw the Titanic was built in Ireland

                            Sort of. Belfast, I think.

                            I can't wait to meet Ireland. Put them back in the box.

                            Wales have beaten us too, but not many are alive to remember it.

                            Northern Ireland play with Ireland in test rugby and in their provincial comp so they can have an equal share of the titanic .

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                            Northern Ireland play with Ireland in test rugby and in their provincial comp so they can have an equal share of the titanic .

                            Fair call. They can spread the disasters between themselves. We are probably on an IRA hit list now though...

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                            • SnowyS Snowy

                              Northern Ireland play with Ireland in test rugby and in their provincial comp so they can have an equal share of the titanic .

                              Fair call. They can spread the disasters between themselves. We are probably on an IRA hit list now though...

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                              @Snowy said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                              Northern Ireland play with Ireland in test rugby and in their provincial comp so they can have an equal share of the titanic .

                              Fair call. They can spread the disasters between themselves. We are probably on an IRA hit list now though...

                              Nah, The Provos are all about Gaelic not Rugby. The UVF and UDA are more likely

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                              • jeggaJ jegga

                                @Snowy said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                @jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                Btw the Titanic was built in Ireland

                                Sort of. Belfast, I think.

                                I can't wait to meet Ireland. Put them back in the box.

                                Wales have beaten us too, but not many are alive to remember it.

                                Northern Ireland play with Ireland in test rugby and in their provincial comp so they can have an equal share of the titanic .

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                                @jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                @Snowy said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                @jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                Btw the Titanic was built in Ireland

                                Sort of. Belfast, I think.

                                I can't wait to meet Ireland. Put them back in the box.

                                Wales have beaten us too, but not many are alive to remember it.

                                Northern Ireland play with Ireland in test rugby and in their provincial comp so they can have an equal share of the titanic .

                                they're all really British anyway

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  @jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                  @Snowy said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                  @jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                  Btw the Titanic was built in Ireland

                                  Sort of. Belfast, I think.

                                  I can't wait to meet Ireland. Put them back in the box.

                                  Wales have beaten us too, but not many are alive to remember it.

                                  Northern Ireland play with Ireland in test rugby and in their provincial comp so they can have an equal share of the titanic .

                                  they're all really British anyway

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                                  @mariner4life said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                  @jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                  @Snowy said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                  @jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                  Btw the Titanic was built in Ireland

                                  Sort of. Belfast, I think.

                                  I can't wait to meet Ireland. Put them back in the box.

                                  Wales have beaten us too, but not many are alive to remember it.

                                  Northern Ireland play with Ireland in test rugby and in their provincial comp so they can have an equal share of the titanic .

                                  they're all really British anyway

                                  They obviously want to be , Britain has understandable reasons for not agreeing.

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                                    @mariner4life @jegga Do we even have any Irish posters on the Fern in general, that would bite on that rancid bait?

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                                    • NepiaN Nepia

                                      @mariner4life @jegga Do we even have any Irish posters on the Fern in general, that would bite on that rancid bait?

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                                      @Nepia said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                      @mariner4life @jegga Do we even have any Irish posters on the Fern in general, that would bite on that rancid bait?

                                      not any more

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                                        @Nepia said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                        @mariner4life @jegga Do we even have any Irish posters on the Fern in general, that would bite on that rancid bait?

                                        not any more

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                                        @jegga if they manage to roll us during the course of this tournament, they'll come!

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                                        • jeggaJ jegga

                                          @Nepia said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                          @mariner4life @jegga Do we even have any Irish posters on the Fern in general, that would bite on that rancid bait?

                                          not any more

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                                          @jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                          @Nepia said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                          @mariner4life @jegga Do we even have any Irish posters on the Fern in general, that would bite on that rancid bait?

                                          not any more

                                          Did we chase away, was it, NH Fan?

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