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RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2)

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    https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/black-magic-casts-a-spell-over-ireland-as-book-slams-shut-on-the-schmidt-years-1.4056621

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    • SnowyS Snowy

      @Rapido said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

      Plus the missed PK touchfinders.

      Some outstanding athleticism from ABs there too.

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      @Snowy said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

      @Rapido said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

      Plus the missed PK touchfinders.

      Some outstanding athleticism from ABs there too.

      Absolutely. There was a mix of everything going right for us and everything going wrong for Ireland. Summed up perfectly by some of those missed PK touchfinders.

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        Loved the way we really tried to keep the game fast to not allow the Irish defense to set. There was one point where Read ripped the ball off one of our tackled players and then handed it to Smith who was right next to him so he could fire it wide again, avoiding the ruck altogether. That's really hard to defend against and doesn't even allow for a rush defense.

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        • No QuarterN No Quarter

          Loved the way we really tried to keep the game fast to not allow the Irish defense to set. There was one point where Read ripped the ball off one of our tackled players and then handed it to Smith who was right next to him so he could fire it wide again, avoiding the ruck altogether. That's really hard to defend against and doesn't even allow for a rush defense.

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          @No-Quarter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          Loved the way we really tried to keep the game fast to not allow the Irish defense to set. There was one point where Read ripped the ball off one of our tackled players and then handed it to Smith who was right next to him so he could fire it wide again, avoiding the ruck altogether. That's really hard to defend against and doesn't even allow for a rush defense.

          Yep. Our powder is now not so dry, or is even exposed, so to speak. I'm not sure how anyone counters it either? Eddie is shrewd though...

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          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

            @canefan also they used the off load just prior to contact alot more than normal too, just got that extra metre or so but bent the line forcing Ireland to adjust again and again.

            ABs have stepped up a gear, adapted to the rush defence they had struggled with since 2017, England will now need to look at thier game and look at where to exploit the ABs.

            Lamour probably the only Irish backline threat and he wasnt there form the start.

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            @taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

            @canefan also they used the off load just prior to contact alot more than normal too, just got that extra metre or so but bent the line forcing Ireland to adjust again and again.

            ABs have stepped up a gear, adapted to the rush defence they had struggled with since 2017, England will now need to look at thier game and look at where to exploit the ABs.

            Lamour probably the only Irish backline threat and he wasnt there form the start.

            Pretty hard to formulate and execute a plan to combat something that just became immediately apparent, in 1 week. Safe to say the powder was kept dry for a reason

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            • N Nevorian

              https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/black-magic-casts-a-spell-over-ireland-as-book-slams-shut-on-the-schmidt-years-1.4056621

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              taniwharugby
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              @Nevorian link has a good stats page too.

              https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby-world-cup/rugby-world-cup-quarter-final-2-match-stats-7.4810716

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                Terrific response by the Irish fans in the stadium to Schmidt and Best.

                In contrast, I remember Woodcock's 100th at Eden Park being subbed, walking off, unacknowledged, as the fucking DJ was playing sweet caroline or whatever - as there was also an injury break.

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                • canefanC canefan

                  @taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  @canefan also they used the off load just prior to contact alot more than normal too, just got that extra metre or so but bent the line forcing Ireland to adjust again and again.

                  ABs have stepped up a gear, adapted to the rush defence they had struggled with since 2017, England will now need to look at thier game and look at where to exploit the ABs.

                  Lamour probably the only Irish backline threat and he wasnt there form the start.

                  Pretty hard to formulate and execute a plan to combat something that just became immediately apparent, in 1 week. Safe to say the powder was kept dry for a reason

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                  @canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  @taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  @canefan also they used the off load just prior to contact alot more than normal too, just got that extra metre or so but bent the line forcing Ireland to adjust again and again.

                  ABs have stepped up a gear, adapted to the rush defence they had struggled with since 2017, England will now need to look at thier game and look at where to exploit the ABs.

                  Lamour probably the only Irish backline threat and he wasnt there form the start.

                  Pretty hard to formulate and execute a plan to combat something that just became immediately apparent, in 1 week. Safe to say the powder was kept dry for a reason

                  There will still be some powder left to trickle out, like 2011 teabag

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                    Terrific response by the Irish fans in the stadium to Schmidt and Best.

                    In contrast, I remember Woodcock's 100th at Eden Park being subbed, walking off, unacknowledged, as the fucking DJ was playing sweet caroline or whatever - as there was also an injury break.

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                    @Rapido said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                    Terrific response by the Irish fans in the stadium to Schmidt and Best.

                    In contrast, I remember Woodcock's 100th at Eden Park being subbed, walking off, unacknowledged, as the fucking DJ was playing sweet caroline or whatever - as there was also an injury break.

                    Schmidt would have been booed off, most of our losing AB coaches get that!

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                      The first 10 minutes were great. Taking them on at their own strength. Even an old fashioned up and under. God, I miss up and unders.

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                        @canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                        @taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                        @canefan also they used the off load just prior to contact alot more than normal too, just got that extra metre or so but bent the line forcing Ireland to adjust again and again.

                        ABs have stepped up a gear, adapted to the rush defence they had struggled with since 2017, England will now need to look at thier game and look at where to exploit the ABs.

                        Lamour probably the only Irish backline threat and he wasnt there form the start.

                        Pretty hard to formulate and execute a plan to combat something that just became immediately apparent, in 1 week. Safe to say the powder was kept dry for a reason

                        There will still be some powder left to trickle out, like 2011 teabag

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                        @Machpants said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                        @canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                        @taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                        @canefan also they used the off load just prior to contact alot more than normal too, just got that extra metre or so but bent the line forcing Ireland to adjust again and again.

                        ABs have stepped up a gear, adapted to the rush defence they had struggled with since 2017, England will now need to look at thier game and look at where to exploit the ABs.

                        Lamour probably the only Irish backline threat and he wasnt there form the start.

                        Pretty hard to formulate and execute a plan to combat something that just became immediately apparent, in 1 week. Safe to say the powder was kept dry for a reason

                        There will still be some powder left to trickle out, like 2011 teabag

                        That was brilliant eh? It was like a nostalgic nod to Woodcock in 2011, so much confidence

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                        • RapidoR Rapido

                          The first 10 minutes were great. Taking them on at their own strength. Even an old fashioned up and under. God, I miss up and unders.

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                          @Rapido said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                          The first 10 minutes were great. Taking them on at their own strength. Even an old fashioned up and under. God, I miss up and unders.

                          I forgot about that. The Gary Owen, up the guts, and bringing out the teabag move. We were playing (and scoring) for fun

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                            @Frank said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                            Is Sam Cane okay?

                            They said wrist injury. Looked okay at the final handshake

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                            @canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                            @Frank said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                            Is Sam Cane okay?

                            They said wrist injury. Looked okay at the final handshake

                            One of several NZ wrist injuries coming out of the game judging by this thread. Rightly so.

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                              @canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              @Frank said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              Is Sam Cane okay?

                              They said wrist injury. Looked okay at the final handshake

                              One of several NZ wrist injuries coming out of the game judging by this thread. Rightly so.

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                              @rotated said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              @canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              @Frank said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              Is Sam Cane okay?

                              They said wrist injury. Looked okay at the final handshake

                              One of several NZ wrist injuries coming out of the game judging by this thread. Rightly so.

                              By half time it was like a giant circle jerk in ABs land

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                                @canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                @taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                @canefan also they used the off load just prior to contact alot more than normal too, just got that extra metre or so but bent the line forcing Ireland to adjust again and again.

                                ABs have stepped up a gear, adapted to the rush defence they had struggled with since 2017, England will now need to look at thier game and look at where to exploit the ABs.

                                Lamour probably the only Irish backline threat and he wasnt there form the start.

                                Pretty hard to formulate and execute a plan to combat something that just became immediately apparent, in 1 week. Safe to say the powder was kept dry for a reason

                                There will still be some powder left to trickle out, like 2011 teabag

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                                @Machpants said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                There will still be some powder left to trickle out,

                                Hope so.

                                Last night showed that our powder was drier than you can get @SammyC s Mexican pub toilet.

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                                      I'm loving the post match banter.

                                      6 days to get back into shit-your-pants-about-England mode.

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                                        I'm loving the post match banter.

                                        6 days to get back into shit-your-pants-about-England mode.

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                                        @NTA said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                        I'm loving the post match banter.

                                        6 days to get back into shit-your-pants-about-England mode.

                                        Beware the Eddie Jones factor , in 2003 we did a similar job on South Africa in a quarter final. Eddie masterminded tactics to beat us in a one off game a week later with an inferior lineup of players .

                                        I reckon he has known for some time to win a World Cup he will probably need to beat us, and this game has been in his planning .

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                                          @NTA said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                          I'm loving the post match banter.

                                          6 days to get back into shit-your-pants-about-England mode.

                                          Beware the Eddie Jones factor , in 2003 we did a similar job on South Africa in a quarter final. Eddie masterminded tactics to beat us in a one off game a week later with an inferior lineup of players .

                                          I reckon he has known for some time to win a World Cup he will probably need to beat us, and this game has been in his planning .

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                                          @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                          I reckon he has known for some time to win a World Cup he will probably need to beat us, and this game has been in his planning .

                                          similarly, when the pools were drawn, probability of facing England would be high, so I expect we have some plans around that...possible upside for us though is that our playing style has evolved and has really only been in place for a shorter time so less time for him to plot the downfall...obviously negative is our gameplan is still probably not bedded in properly

                                          I said last week England worried me more than Ireland...

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