RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2)
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@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@canefan also they used the off load just prior to contact alot more than normal too, just got that extra metre or so but bent the line forcing Ireland to adjust again and again.
ABs have stepped up a gear, adapted to the rush defence they had struggled with since 2017, England will now need to look at thier game and look at where to exploit the ABs.
Lamour probably the only Irish backline threat and he wasnt there form the start.
Pretty hard to formulate and execute a plan to combat something that just became immediately apparent, in 1 week. Safe to say the powder was kept dry for a reason
There will still be some powder left to trickle out, like 2011 teabag
@Machpants said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@canefan also they used the off load just prior to contact alot more than normal too, just got that extra metre or so but bent the line forcing Ireland to adjust again and again.
ABs have stepped up a gear, adapted to the rush defence they had struggled with since 2017, England will now need to look at thier game and look at where to exploit the ABs.
Lamour probably the only Irish backline threat and he wasnt there form the start.
Pretty hard to formulate and execute a plan to combat something that just became immediately apparent, in 1 week. Safe to say the powder was kept dry for a reason
There will still be some powder left to trickle out, like 2011 teabag
That was brilliant eh? It was like a nostalgic nod to Woodcock in 2011, so much confidence
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The first 10 minutes were great. Taking them on at their own strength. Even an old fashioned up and under. God, I miss up and unders.
@Rapido said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
The first 10 minutes were great. Taking them on at their own strength. Even an old fashioned up and under. God, I miss up and unders.
I forgot about that. The Gary Owen, up the guts, and bringing out the teabag move. We were playing (and scoring) for fun
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@Frank said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Is Sam Cane okay?
They said wrist injury. Looked okay at the final handshake
@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Frank said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Is Sam Cane okay?
They said wrist injury. Looked okay at the final handshake
One of several NZ wrist injuries coming out of the game judging by this thread. Rightly so.
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@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Frank said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Is Sam Cane okay?
They said wrist injury. Looked okay at the final handshake
One of several NZ wrist injuries coming out of the game judging by this thread. Rightly so.
@rotated said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Frank said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Is Sam Cane okay?
They said wrist injury. Looked okay at the final handshake
One of several NZ wrist injuries coming out of the game judging by this thread. Rightly so.
By half time it was like a giant circle jerk in ABs land
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@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@canefan also they used the off load just prior to contact alot more than normal too, just got that extra metre or so but bent the line forcing Ireland to adjust again and again.
ABs have stepped up a gear, adapted to the rush defence they had struggled with since 2017, England will now need to look at thier game and look at where to exploit the ABs.
Lamour probably the only Irish backline threat and he wasnt there form the start.
Pretty hard to formulate and execute a plan to combat something that just became immediately apparent, in 1 week. Safe to say the powder was kept dry for a reason
There will still be some powder left to trickle out, like 2011 teabag
@Machpants said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
There will still be some powder left to trickle out,
Hope so.
Last night showed that our powder was drier than you can get @SammyC s Mexican pub toilet.
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Stolen from Reddit
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@NTA said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
I'm loving the post match banter.
6 days to get back into shit-your-pants-about-England mode.
Beware the Eddie Jones factor , in 2003 we did a similar job on South Africa in a quarter final. Eddie masterminded tactics to beat us in a one off game a week later with an inferior lineup of players .
I reckon he has known for some time to win a World Cup he will probably need to beat us, and this game has been in his planning .
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@NTA said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
I'm loving the post match banter.
6 days to get back into shit-your-pants-about-England mode.
Beware the Eddie Jones factor , in 2003 we did a similar job on South Africa in a quarter final. Eddie masterminded tactics to beat us in a one off game a week later with an inferior lineup of players .
I reckon he has known for some time to win a World Cup he will probably need to beat us, and this game has been in his planning .
@kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
I reckon he has known for some time to win a World Cup he will probably need to beat us, and this game has been in his planning .
similarly, when the pools were drawn, probability of facing England would be high, so I expect we have some plans around that...possible upside for us though is that our playing style has evolved and has really only been in place for a shorter time so less time for him to plot the downfall...obviously negative is our gameplan is still probably not bedded in properly
I said last week England worried me more than Ireland...
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@sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Not really sure what Matt Todd could do there?
Tackle?
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@Luigi said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Blackheart said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
This was the most appalling match Nigel Owens has refereed....at least three yellows missed by head high and neck rolls by the Irish and the penalty try was absurd...Todd was hemmed in there against the post by an Irish player and couldn't get away even if he tried...lucky that wasn't a decision that could've effected the out come of the match. The world's best Ref?????
Fucking hell. Never happy aye?
I remember when Dan Carter got yellowed for a horrendous tackle against Wales and the Fern foamed endlessly at the mouth about the IRB (as was) conspiring with the illuminati, aliens, English rugby clubs and the man on the grassy knoll to besmirch his sainted name.
Get a grip.@Luigi, there's a blast from the past. Welcome back. Been lurking?
I'll disagree with you, although I don't fully agree with @Blackheart. But Nige made some strange calls.
@booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Luigi said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Blackheart said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
This was the most appalling match Nigel Owens has refereed....at least three yellows missed by head high and neck rolls by the Irish and the penalty try was absurd...Todd was hemmed in there against the post by an Irish player and couldn't get away even if he tried...lucky that wasn't a decision that could've effected the out come of the match. The world's best Ref?????
Fucking hell. Never happy aye?
I remember when Dan Carter got yellowed for a horrendous tackle against Wales and the Fern foamed endlessly at the mouth about the IRB (as was) conspiring with the illuminati, aliens, English rugby clubs and the man on the grassy knoll to besmirch his sainted name.
Get a grip.@Luigi, there's a blast from the past. Welcome back. Been lurking?
I'll disagree with you, although I don't fully agree with @Blackheart. But Nige made some strange calls.
Nah, just dropped in.
Congrats boys. I think we will be lucky to keep it to 12 points in the semi.
Still drinking at 1pm (bst) and need to be up for 8am for the welshies day of destiny.
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@NTA said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
I'm loving the post match banter.
6 days to get back into shit-your-pants-about-England mode.
Losing to England wouldn’t be anywhere near as intolerable as losing to Ireland. Particularly if we didn’t deny Ireland their traditional quarter final exit
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@sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Not really sure what Matt Todd could do there?
Tackle?
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Not really sure what Matt Todd could do there?
Tackle?
Exactly. It ain’t about intent anymore. Or even it being an accident. If you’re in the way, flailing around like a epileptic squid you’re gonna get pinged. Todd got sent off for being a muppet. Can’t even claim cynicism, just rubbishness.
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@booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Luigi said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Blackheart said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
This was the most appalling match Nigel Owens has refereed....at least three yellows missed by head high and neck rolls by the Irish and the penalty try was absurd...Todd was hemmed in there against the post by an Irish player and couldn't get away even if he tried...lucky that wasn't a decision that could've effected the out come of the match. The world's best Ref?????
Fucking hell. Never happy aye?
I remember when Dan Carter got yellowed for a horrendous tackle against Wales and the Fern foamed endlessly at the mouth about the IRB (as was) conspiring with the illuminati, aliens, English rugby clubs and the man on the grassy knoll to besmirch his sainted name.
Get a grip.@Luigi, there's a blast from the past. Welcome back. Been lurking?
I'll disagree with you, although I don't fully agree with @Blackheart. But Nige made some strange calls.
Nah, just dropped in.
Congrats boys. I think we will be lucky to keep it to 12 points in the semi.
Still drinking at 1pm (bst) and need to be up for 8am for the welshies day of destiny.@Luigi said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Luigi said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Blackheart said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
This was the most appalling match Nigel Owens has refereed....at least three yellows missed by head high and neck rolls by the Irish and the penalty try was absurd...Todd was hemmed in there against the post by an Irish player and couldn't get away even if he tried...lucky that wasn't a decision that could've effected the out come of the match. The world's best Ref?????
Fucking hell. Never happy aye?
I remember when Dan Carter got yellowed for a horrendous tackle against Wales and the Fern foamed endlessly at the mouth about the IRB (as was) conspiring with the illuminati, aliens, English rugby clubs and the man on the grassy knoll to besmirch his sainted name.
Get a grip.@Luigi, there's a blast from the past. Welcome back. Been lurking?
I'll disagree with you, although I don't fully agree with @Blackheart. But Nige made some strange calls.
Nah, just dropped in.
Congrats boys. I think we will be lucky to keep it to 12 points in the semi.
Still drinking at 1pm (bst) and need to be up for 8am for the welshies day of destiny.Hang around. At least for the week. We need more Poms to abuse errr tease.
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Not really sure what Matt Todd could do there?
Tackle?
Exactly. It ain’t about intent anymore. Or even it being an accident. If you’re in the way, flailing around like a epileptic squid you’re gonna get pinged. Todd got sent off for being a muppet. Can’t even claim cynicism, just rubbishness.
@Luigi said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Not really sure what Matt Todd could do there?
Tackle?
Exactly. It ain’t about intent anymore. Or even it being an accident. If you’re in the way, flailing around like a epileptic squid you’re gonna get pinged. Todd got sent off for being a muppet. Can’t even claim cynicism, just rubbishness.
He's directly responsible for both of Ireland's tries. His YC was deserved - you're supposed to tackle.
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This article has a good dose of Irish humour to explain the Irish loss
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I enjoyed the game, good to see normal service resume as the ABs took the cane out of the cupboard and gave the Irish a damn good thrashing.
A master stroke, using newish wings - it usually takes years to build decent defences to them, and in the meantime, their try scoring rate is huge. Seems to be the common theme of AB wings - they stay relevant for a while and then most of them get worked out.
