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RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2)

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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    @Siam I hate how you can be part of a maul from the start, work your way through, end up on the side, nek minut you are pinged (think Ardie got done for one of them)

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    @taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @Siam I hate how you can be part of a maul from the start, work your way through, end up on the side, nek minut you are pinged (think Ardie got done for one of them)

    This.

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    • antipodeanA antipodean

      @canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

      @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

      @Luigi said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

      @MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

      @sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

      Not really sure what Matt Todd could do there?

      Tackle?

      Exactly. It ain’t about intent anymore. Or even it being an accident. If you’re in the way, flailing around like a epileptic squid you’re gonna get pinged. Todd got sent off for being a muppet. Can’t even claim cynicism, just rubbishness.

      He's directly responsible for both of Ireland's tries. His YC was deserved - you're supposed to tackle.

      Please explain to me the rule that Todd broke? He was inside, the vision clearly showed that. He did not make shoulder or arm contact with the irish player's head. It was at best a collision I would have thought? Honest question

      I'd go with foul play obstruction. He made no attempt to tackle and simply plopped himself in the way.

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      @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

      @canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

      @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

      @Luigi said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

      @MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

      @sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

      Not really sure what Matt Todd could do there?

      Tackle?

      Exactly. It ain’t about intent anymore. Or even it being an accident. If you’re in the way, flailing around like a epileptic squid you’re gonna get pinged. Todd got sent off for being a muppet. Can’t even claim cynicism, just rubbishness.

      He's directly responsible for both of Ireland's tries. His YC was deserved - you're supposed to tackle.

      Please explain to me the rule that Todd broke? He was inside, the vision clearly showed that. He did not make shoulder or arm contact with the irish player's head. It was at best a collision I would have thought? Honest question

      I'd go with foul play obstruction. He made no attempt to tackle and simply plopped himself in the way.

      Who is he obstructing. Isn't obstruction preventing someone from playing?

      Poor decision which he made worse by inventing weirder call.

      When you're in a hole stop digging. Should have had the guts to reverse his initial call.

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        @akan004 Dunno the article has Shag all 'probably', 'we'll see' and 'old injury inflamed' type thing.

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        @Machpants said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

        @akan004 Dunno the article has Shag all 'probably', 'we'll see' and 'old injury inflamed' type thing.

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        this probably did not help

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        • boobooB booboo

          @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          @canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          @Luigi said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          @MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          @sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          Not really sure what Matt Todd could do there?

          Tackle?

          Exactly. It ain’t about intent anymore. Or even it being an accident. If you’re in the way, flailing around like a epileptic squid you’re gonna get pinged. Todd got sent off for being a muppet. Can’t even claim cynicism, just rubbishness.

          He's directly responsible for both of Ireland's tries. His YC was deserved - you're supposed to tackle.

          Please explain to me the rule that Todd broke? He was inside, the vision clearly showed that. He did not make shoulder or arm contact with the irish player's head. It was at best a collision I would have thought? Honest question

          I'd go with foul play obstruction. He made no attempt to tackle and simply plopped himself in the way.

          Who is he obstructing. Isn't obstruction preventing someone from playing?

          Poor decision which he made worse by inventing weirder call.

          When you're in a hole stop digging. Should have had the guts to reverse his initial call.

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          @booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          @canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          @Luigi said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          @MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          @sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          Not really sure what Matt Todd could do there?

          Tackle?

          Exactly. It ain’t about intent anymore. Or even it being an accident. If you’re in the way, flailing around like a epileptic squid you’re gonna get pinged. Todd got sent off for being a muppet. Can’t even claim cynicism, just rubbishness.

          He's directly responsible for both of Ireland's tries. His YC was deserved - you're supposed to tackle.

          Please explain to me the rule that Todd broke? He was inside, the vision clearly showed that. He did not make shoulder or arm contact with the irish player's head. It was at best a collision I would have thought? Honest question

          I'd go with foul play obstruction. He made no attempt to tackle and simply plopped himself in the way.

          Who is he obstructing. Isn't obstruction preventing someone from playing?

          Poor decision which he made worse by inventing weirder call.

          When you're in a hole stop digging. Should have had the guts to reverse his initial call.

          The player who is going to place the ball at the foot of the posts.

          Todd prevented that by throwing himself in the way.

          Illegal act which prevented a try being scored.

          Penalty try, YC.

          Pretty easy to work out.

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          • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

            @booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

            @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

            @canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

            @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

            @Luigi said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

            @MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

            @sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

            Not really sure what Matt Todd could do there?

            Tackle?

            Exactly. It ain’t about intent anymore. Or even it being an accident. If you’re in the way, flailing around like a epileptic squid you’re gonna get pinged. Todd got sent off for being a muppet. Can’t even claim cynicism, just rubbishness.

            He's directly responsible for both of Ireland's tries. His YC was deserved - you're supposed to tackle.

            Please explain to me the rule that Todd broke? He was inside, the vision clearly showed that. He did not make shoulder or arm contact with the irish player's head. It was at best a collision I would have thought? Honest question

            I'd go with foul play obstruction. He made no attempt to tackle and simply plopped himself in the way.

            Who is he obstructing. Isn't obstruction preventing someone from playing?

            Poor decision which he made worse by inventing weirder call.

            When you're in a hole stop digging. Should have had the guts to reverse his initial call.

            The player who is going to place the ball at the foot of the posts.

            Todd prevented that by throwing himself in the way.

            Illegal act which prevented a try being scored.

            Penalty try, YC.

            Pretty easy to work out.

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            @MiketheSnow The only problem was Nig continually going on about never onside, never mentions obstruction. And Todd came from behind the try line so utter arse was spouted by Nige

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              @MiketheSnow The only problem was Nig continually going on about never onside, never mentions obstruction. And Todd came from behind the try line so utter arse was spouted by Nige

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              @Machpants said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

              @MiketheSnow The only problem was Nig continually going on about never onside, never mentions obstruction. And Todd came from behind the try line so utter arse was spouted by Nige

              So he got the offside bit wrong but the rest correct.

              Todd was binned for the latter not the former.

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              • boobooB booboo

                @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                @canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                @Luigi said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                @MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                @sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                Not really sure what Matt Todd could do there?

                Tackle?

                Exactly. It ain’t about intent anymore. Or even it being an accident. If you’re in the way, flailing around like a epileptic squid you’re gonna get pinged. Todd got sent off for being a muppet. Can’t even claim cynicism, just rubbishness.

                He's directly responsible for both of Ireland's tries. His YC was deserved - you're supposed to tackle.

                Please explain to me the rule that Todd broke? He was inside, the vision clearly showed that. He did not make shoulder or arm contact with the irish player's head. It was at best a collision I would have thought? Honest question

                I'd go with foul play obstruction. He made no attempt to tackle and simply plopped himself in the way.

                Who is he obstructing. Isn't obstruction preventing someone from playing?

                Poor decision which he made worse by inventing weirder call.

                When you're in a hole stop digging. Should have had the guts to reverse his initial call.

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                @booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                @canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                @Luigi said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                @MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                @sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                Not really sure what Matt Todd could do there?

                Tackle?

                Exactly. It ain’t about intent anymore. Or even it being an accident. If you’re in the way, flailing around like a epileptic squid you’re gonna get pinged. Todd got sent off for being a muppet. Can’t even claim cynicism, just rubbishness.

                He's directly responsible for both of Ireland's tries. His YC was deserved - you're supposed to tackle.

                Please explain to me the rule that Todd broke? He was inside, the vision clearly showed that. He did not make shoulder or arm contact with the irish player's head. It was at best a collision I would have thought? Honest question

                I'd go with foul play obstruction. He made no attempt to tackle and simply plopped himself in the way.

                Who is he obstructing. Isn't obstruction preventing someone from playing?

                The ball carrier, from playing the ball. I suggest you watch a replay. It's obvious and uncontroversial. Ignore that he got flustered in his explanation, the penalty and card are justified.

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                • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                  @booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  @canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  @Luigi said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  @MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  @sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  Not really sure what Matt Todd could do there?

                  Tackle?

                  Exactly. It ain’t about intent anymore. Or even it being an accident. If you’re in the way, flailing around like a epileptic squid you’re gonna get pinged. Todd got sent off for being a muppet. Can’t even claim cynicism, just rubbishness.

                  He's directly responsible for both of Ireland's tries. His YC was deserved - you're supposed to tackle.

                  Please explain to me the rule that Todd broke? He was inside, the vision clearly showed that. He did not make shoulder or arm contact with the irish player's head. It was at best a collision I would have thought? Honest question

                  I'd go with foul play obstruction. He made no attempt to tackle and simply plopped himself in the way.

                  Who is he obstructing. Isn't obstruction preventing someone from playing?

                  Poor decision which he made worse by inventing weirder call.

                  When you're in a hole stop digging. Should have had the guts to reverse his initial call.

                  The player who is going to place the ball at the foot of the posts.

                  Todd prevented that by throwing himself in the way.

                  Illegal act which prevented a try being scored.

                  Penalty try, YC.

                  Pretty easy to work out.

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                  #1608

                  @MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  @booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  @canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  @Luigi said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  @MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  @sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  Not really sure what Matt Todd could do there?

                  Tackle?

                  Exactly. It ain’t about intent anymore. Or even it being an accident. If you’re in the way, flailing around like a epileptic squid you’re gonna get pinged. Todd got sent off for being a muppet. Can’t even claim cynicism, just rubbishness.

                  He's directly responsible for both of Ireland's tries. His YC was deserved - you're supposed to tackle.

                  Please explain to me the rule that Todd broke? He was inside, the vision clearly showed that. He did not make shoulder or arm contact with the irish player's head. It was at best a collision I would have thought? Honest question

                  I'd go with foul play obstruction. He made no attempt to tackle and simply plopped himself in the way.

                  Who is he obstructing. Isn't obstruction preventing someone from playing?

                  Poor decision which he made worse by inventing weirder call.

                  When you're in a hole stop digging. Should have had the guts to reverse his initial call.

                  The player who is going to place the ball at the foot of the posts.

                  Todd prevented that by throwing himself in the way.

                  Illegal act which prevented a try being scored.

                  Penalty try, YC.

                  Pretty easy to work out.

                  Still not "obstruction"

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                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                    @booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                    @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                    @canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                    @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                    @Luigi said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                    @sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                    Not really sure what Matt Todd could do there?

                    Tackle?

                    Exactly. It ain’t about intent anymore. Or even it being an accident. If you’re in the way, flailing around like a epileptic squid you’re gonna get pinged. Todd got sent off for being a muppet. Can’t even claim cynicism, just rubbishness.

                    He's directly responsible for both of Ireland's tries. His YC was deserved - you're supposed to tackle.

                    Please explain to me the rule that Todd broke? He was inside, the vision clearly showed that. He did not make shoulder or arm contact with the irish player's head. It was at best a collision I would have thought? Honest question

                    I'd go with foul play obstruction. He made no attempt to tackle and simply plopped himself in the way.

                    Who is he obstructing. Isn't obstruction preventing someone from playing?

                    The ball carrier, from playing the ball. I suggest you watch a replay. It's obvious and uncontroversial. Ignore that he got flustered in his explanation, the penalty and card are justified.

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                    @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                    @booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                    @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                    @canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                    @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                    @Luigi said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                    @sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                    Not really sure what Matt Todd could do there?

                    Tackle?

                    Exactly. It ain’t about intent anymore. Or even it being an accident. If you’re in the way, flailing around like a epileptic squid you’re gonna get pinged. Todd got sent off for being a muppet. Can’t even claim cynicism, just rubbishness.

                    He's directly responsible for both of Ireland's tries. His YC was deserved - you're supposed to tackle.

                    Please explain to me the rule that Todd broke? He was inside, the vision clearly showed that. He did not make shoulder or arm contact with the irish player's head. It was at best a collision I would have thought? Honest question

                    I'd go with foul play obstruction. He made no attempt to tackle and simply plopped himself in the way.

                    Who is he obstructing. Isn't obstruction preventing someone from playing?

                    The ball carrier, from playing the ball. I suggest you watch a replay. It's obvious and uncontroversial. Ignore that he got flustered in his explanation, the penalty and card are justified.

                    Let's say we just disagree.

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                    • boobooB booboo

                      @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      @booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      @canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      @Luigi said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      @MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      @sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      Not really sure what Matt Todd could do there?

                      Tackle?

                      Exactly. It ain’t about intent anymore. Or even it being an accident. If you’re in the way, flailing around like a epileptic squid you’re gonna get pinged. Todd got sent off for being a muppet. Can’t even claim cynicism, just rubbishness.

                      He's directly responsible for both of Ireland's tries. His YC was deserved - you're supposed to tackle.

                      Please explain to me the rule that Todd broke? He was inside, the vision clearly showed that. He did not make shoulder or arm contact with the irish player's head. It was at best a collision I would have thought? Honest question

                      I'd go with foul play obstruction. He made no attempt to tackle and simply plopped himself in the way.

                      Who is he obstructing. Isn't obstruction preventing someone from playing?

                      The ball carrier, from playing the ball. I suggest you watch a replay. It's obvious and uncontroversial. Ignore that he got flustered in his explanation, the penalty and card are justified.

                      Let's say we just disagree.

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                      @booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      @booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      @canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      @Luigi said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      @MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      @sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      Not really sure what Matt Todd could do there?

                      Tackle?

                      Exactly. It ain’t about intent anymore. Or even it being an accident. If you’re in the way, flailing around like a epileptic squid you’re gonna get pinged. Todd got sent off for being a muppet. Can’t even claim cynicism, just rubbishness.

                      He's directly responsible for both of Ireland's tries. His YC was deserved - you're supposed to tackle.

                      Please explain to me the rule that Todd broke? He was inside, the vision clearly showed that. He did not make shoulder or arm contact with the irish player's head. It was at best a collision I would have thought? Honest question

                      I'd go with foul play obstruction. He made no attempt to tackle and simply plopped himself in the way.

                      Who is he obstructing. Isn't obstruction preventing someone from playing?

                      The ball carrier, from playing the ball. I suggest you watch a replay. It's obvious and uncontroversial. Ignore that he got flustered in his explanation, the penalty and card are justified.

                      Let's say we just disagree.

                      We can, but the law agrees with me.

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                        So Frizell to the bench in place of Todd.

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                        • FrankF Frank

                          So Frizell to the bench in place of Todd.

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                          @Frank Or Pat T

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                            @Frank Or Pat T

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                            Obstruction: When a player attempting to play is illegally impeded and prevented from doing so.

                            Could live with that given Pom's forward obsession

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                            • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                              @Machpants said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              @MiketheSnow The only problem was Nig continually going on about never onside, never mentions obstruction. And Todd came from behind the try line so utter arse was spouted by Nige

                              So he got the offside bit wrong but the rest correct.

                              Todd was binned for the latter not the former.

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                              @MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              @Machpants said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              @MiketheSnow The only problem was Nig continually going on about never onside, never mentions obstruction. And Todd came from behind the try line so utter arse was spouted by Nige

                              So he got the offside bit wrong but the rest correct.

                              Todd was binned for the latter not the former.

                              No everything he said was wrong, for him it was preventing a try by coming in offside, so he was talking utter crap."Diving from the side" (of what?) "he was offisde" (no he wasn't) "Clearly offisde" (nope) "Came in front and prevented a try" (Sorry not allowed to be infront of a player to stop a try?). I'm not arguing the result, just the fact he did not know what he was talkng about, very similar to his talk with Beaudy's try. Only by luck was the card correct, maybe, not by actually what he described that he 'saw'.

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                              • antipodeanA antipodean

                                @booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                @canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                @Luigi said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                @MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                @sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                Not really sure what Matt Todd could do there?

                                Tackle?

                                Exactly. It ain’t about intent anymore. Or even it being an accident. If you’re in the way, flailing around like a epileptic squid you’re gonna get pinged. Todd got sent off for being a muppet. Can’t even claim cynicism, just rubbishness.

                                He's directly responsible for both of Ireland's tries. His YC was deserved - you're supposed to tackle.

                                Please explain to me the rule that Todd broke? He was inside, the vision clearly showed that. He did not make shoulder or arm contact with the irish player's head. It was at best a collision I would have thought? Honest question

                                I'd go with foul play obstruction. He made no attempt to tackle and simply plopped himself in the way.

                                Who is he obstructing. Isn't obstruction preventing someone from playing?

                                The ball carrier, from playing the ball. I suggest you watch a replay. It's obvious and uncontroversial. Ignore that he got flustered in his explanation, the penalty and card are justified.

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                                @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                @booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                @canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                @Luigi said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

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                                Not really sure what Matt Todd could do there?

                                Tackle?

                                Exactly. It ain’t about intent anymore. Or even it being an accident. If you’re in the way, flailing around like a epileptic squid you’re gonna get pinged. Todd got sent off for being a muppet. Can’t even claim cynicism, just rubbishness.

                                He's directly responsible for both of Ireland's tries. His YC was deserved - you're supposed to tackle.

                                Please explain to me the rule that Todd broke? He was inside, the vision clearly showed that. He did not make shoulder or arm contact with the irish player's head. It was at best a collision I would have thought? Honest question

                                I'd go with foul play obstruction. He made no attempt to tackle and simply plopped himself in the way.

                                Who is he obstructing. Isn't obstruction preventing someone from playing?

                                The ball carrier, from playing the ball. I suggest you watch a replay. It's obvious and uncontroversial. Ignore that he got flustered in his explanation, the penalty and card are justified.

                                I had to go and watch again after reading this. He did not prevent the ball carrier from playing the ball. The ball could have been made available to a team mate at any time and Todd didn’t stop him from trying to do that. He was, for the record, behind the try line when the ball carrier picked up the ball and only moved forward after that. He flopped clownishly at the base of the posts but was onside when he did it. If you called it a tackle or a breakdown then he was on the NZ side of it. If you called it open play then he can be wherever the fuck he likes.

                                Or are you saying that defenders have an obligation to let a player attempt to place the ball and score a try? Because I missed that law change and so has everybody else who tries to hold up the ball and prevent a score, like in every game ever.

                                As you’ll have gathered, I’m not accepting it’s obvious and uncontroversial just because you say so.

                                Of course I could be wrong but you’ll need to cite your source.

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                                  @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  @booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  @canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  @Luigi said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  @MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  @sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  Not really sure what Matt Todd could do there?

                                  Tackle?

                                  Exactly. It ain’t about intent anymore. Or even it being an accident. If you’re in the way, flailing around like a epileptic squid you’re gonna get pinged. Todd got sent off for being a muppet. Can’t even claim cynicism, just rubbishness.

                                  He's directly responsible for both of Ireland's tries. His YC was deserved - you're supposed to tackle.

                                  Please explain to me the rule that Todd broke? He was inside, the vision clearly showed that. He did not make shoulder or arm contact with the irish player's head. It was at best a collision I would have thought? Honest question

                                  I'd go with foul play obstruction. He made no attempt to tackle and simply plopped himself in the way.

                                  Who is he obstructing. Isn't obstruction preventing someone from playing?

                                  The ball carrier, from playing the ball. I suggest you watch a replay. It's obvious and uncontroversial. Ignore that he got flustered in his explanation, the penalty and card are justified.

                                  I had to go and watch again after reading this. He did not prevent the ball carrier from playing the ball. The ball could have been made available to a team mate at any time and Todd didn’t stop him from trying to do that. He was, for the record, behind the try line when the ball carrier picked up the ball and only moved forward after that. He flopped clownishly at the base of the posts but was onside when he did it. If you called it a tackle or a breakdown then he was on the NZ side of it. If you called it open play then he can be wherever the fuck he likes.

                                  Or are you saying that defenders have an obligation to let a player attempt to place the ball and score a try? Because I missed that law change and so has everybody else who tries to hold up the ball and prevent a score, like in every game ever.

                                  As you’ll have gathered, I’m not accepting it’s obvious and uncontroversial just because you say so.

                                  Of course I could be wrong but you’ll need to cite your source.

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                                  @JC You often see players put their bodies in the way to stop a try, with no tackle. Like getting under a player on the try line. By Nige's call that's a Pen try yellow

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                                    A no arms tackle that prevented a try from being scored.

                                    Yellow card.

                                    Simple.

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                                      A no arms tackle that prevented a try from being scored.

                                      Yellow card.

                                      Simple.

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                                      @KiwiMurph said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                      A no arms tackle that prevented a try from being scored.

                                      Yellow card.

                                      Simple.

                                      Not getting into the Todd incident, am still working through the replay. But I noticed a distinct change in tackling technique from the AB's in this game. Super low body height, and lots of instances of guys basically throwing themselves at the feet of the attacker. No arms, no real attempt to tackle. Kind of just falling over in front of them.

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                                          Todd penalty try at 1:50:50:

                                          I guess the ruling is no arms, but it's a tough one. He was onside.

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