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RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2)

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    #1718

    I bet they dont mention that knock on that wasnt in the 1st 10 seconds that had us immediately on attack.

    Those muppets should know better than to trawl through games looking for incidenyes to highlight against 1 team...but I gues they are playing to their audience.

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    • Billy TellB Billy Tell

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      One of those laws that is never ever enforced...unless it's to prevent Grant Fox scoring his first ever international try. I find it incredible that international touch judges don't seem to care...laws should be simplified to remove it from the law book, since it's never applied.

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      @Billy-Tell International ARs don't appear to much of anything, let alone enforcing the offside line

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        the other one is have a look at how many defensive lineouts close to a team's own line are caught inside the 5m

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          @Bones I guess the point is, if they stood behind the line it would not mean lineout would function differently (which brings the argument just stand behind the line FFS)

          I think in the days of spring heeled locks with those waterlogged Adidas balls it probably had more impact.

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          @taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          @Bones I guess the point is, if they stood behind the line it would not mean lineout would function differently (which brings the argument just stand behind the line FFS)

          I think in the days of spring heeled locks with those waterlogged Adidas balls it probably had more impact.

          If they are doing it systematically (and pretty much every hooker seems to do it) presumably they think there's some advantage and every little bit helps. I presume that in theory you are allowed to stand on the touchline, but not over it. We were taught you had to stand behind the line - but, that was the days when wings threw the ball into the lineout! 🙂

          It's a bit like people who kick off a couple of inches on the wrong side of halfway - Aaron Cruden was one who used to do this pretty much every kick-off, so evidently thought there was an advantage - and Sexton did it at least once at the weekend.

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          • Chris B.C Chris B.

            @taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

            @Bones I guess the point is, if they stood behind the line it would not mean lineout would function differently (which brings the argument just stand behind the line FFS)

            I think in the days of spring heeled locks with those waterlogged Adidas balls it probably had more impact.

            If they are doing it systematically (and pretty much every hooker seems to do it) presumably they think there's some advantage and every little bit helps. I presume that in theory you are allowed to stand on the touchline, but not over it. We were taught you had to stand behind the line - but, that was the days when wings threw the ball into the lineout! 🙂

            It's a bit like people who kick off a couple of inches on the wrong side of halfway - Aaron Cruden was one who used to do this pretty much every kick-off, so evidently thought there was an advantage - and Sexton did it at least once at the weekend.

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            #1722

            @Chris-B Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

            I presume that in theory you are allowed to stand on the touchline, but not over it. We were taught you had to stand behind the line

            Your first comment is correct I think. On the line is out in rugby, so a hooker standing on it is fine (some Chiefs joke available there).
            The actual law:
            "The player throwing in the ball stands on the mark of touch with both feet outside the field of play. The thrower must not step into the field of play until the ball has been thrown. Sanction: Option of lineout or scrum."

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            • Chris B.C Chris B.

              @taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

              @Bones I guess the point is, if they stood behind the line it would not mean lineout would function differently (which brings the argument just stand behind the line FFS)

              I think in the days of spring heeled locks with those waterlogged Adidas balls it probably had more impact.

              If they are doing it systematically (and pretty much every hooker seems to do it) presumably they think there's some advantage and every little bit helps. I presume that in theory you are allowed to stand on the touchline, but not over it. We were taught you had to stand behind the line - but, that was the days when wings threw the ball into the lineout! 🙂

              It's a bit like people who kick off a couple of inches on the wrong side of halfway - Aaron Cruden was one who used to do this pretty much every kick-off, so evidently thought there was an advantage - and Sexton did it at least once at the weekend.

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              taniwharugby
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              @Chris-B or people who take 2 steps past the mark made by a ref for a penalty to kick it out.

              Then there is BB, who is the ultimate cheat moving penalty kicks closer to the posts...

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              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                @Chris-B or people who take 2 steps past the mark made by a ref for a penalty to kick it out.

                Then there is BB, who is the ultimate cheat moving penalty kicks closer to the posts...

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                mariner4life
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                @taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                Then there is BB, who is the ultimate cheat moving penalty kicks closer to the posts...

                cheat. cynical cheat.

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  @Chris-B or people who take 2 steps past the mark made by a ref for a penalty to kick it out.

                  Then there is BB, who is the ultimate cheat moving penalty kicks closer to the posts...

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                  @taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  @Chris-B or people who take 2 steps past the mark made by a ref for a penalty to kick it out.

                  The simple solution to that is for the AR to mark the lineout a few steps back from where it went out.

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    @taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                    @Chris-B or people who take 2 steps past the mark made by a ref for a penalty to kick it out.

                    The simple solution to that is for the AR to mark the lineout a few steps back from where it went out.

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                    @Bovidae said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                    @taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                    @Chris-B or people who take 2 steps past the mark made by a ref for a penalty to kick it out.

                    The simple solution to that is for the AR to mark the lineout a few steps back from where it went out.

                    they could use the TMO to get it right

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      @taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      @Chris-B or people who take 2 steps past the mark made by a ref for a penalty to kick it out.

                      The simple solution to that is for the AR to mark the lineout a few steps back from where it went out.

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                      @Bovidae said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      The simple solution to that is for the AR to mark the lineout a few steps back from where it went out.

                      Or, the officials could just enforce the laws.

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                      • SnowyS Snowy

                        @Bovidae said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                        The simple solution to that is for the AR to mark the lineout a few steps back from where it went out.

                        Or, the officials could just enforce the laws.

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                        @Snowy said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                        @Bovidae said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                        The simple solution to that is for the AR to mark the lineout a few steps back from where it went out.

                        Or, the officials could just enforce the laws.

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          @taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                          @Chris-B or people who take 2 steps past the mark made by a ref for a penalty to kick it out.

                          The simple solution to that is for the AR to mark the lineout a few steps back from where it went out.

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                          #1729

                          @Bovidae said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                          @taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                          @Chris-B or people who take 2 steps past the mark made by a ref for a penalty to kick it out.

                          The simple solution to that is for the AR to mark the lineout a few steps back from where it went out.

                          Judging by disbelieving facial expressions and arm waving, every kicker thinks the touchies already do this .....

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                            More analysis supporting the theory that there was a lot of powder kept dry

                            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/analysis-irish-con-job-confirmed-the-all-blacks-top-draw-performance-proof-of-shelved-tactics-last-year/

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                              Dunno about the con, but I enjoyed that analysis

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                                I don't think we would ever lose a game on purpose, or hold back too much and not win, but that was an interesting read. I was wondering why that maul made so much ground.

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                                  I don't think we would ever lose a game on purpose, or hold back too much and not win, but that was an interesting read. I was wondering why that maul made so much ground.

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                                  @Darren the maul where green 5 came in from the side and lifted Angus off balance in the most common penalisable infraction of a rolling maul?

                                  Shoddy refereeing that needs to be called out

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                                    More analysis supporting the theory that there was a lot of powder kept dry

                                    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/analysis-irish-con-job-confirmed-the-all-blacks-top-draw-performance-proof-of-shelved-tactics-last-year/

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                                    taniwharugby
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                                    @Machpants I think the energy levels was as much a part of it as powder dry...

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                                    • D Darren

                                      I don't think we would ever lose a game on purpose, or hold back too much and not win, but that was an interesting read. I was wondering why that maul made so much ground.

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                                      @Darren said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                      I don't think we would ever lose a game on purpose, or hold back too much and not win, but that was an interesting read. I was wondering why that maul made so much ground.

                                      I think that's exactly what they did last year. In fairness, they could have won that game in Dublin, but for some dropped balls and a screamer of a try from Ireland (arguably with a fair bit of luck, too).

                                      If you show your hand too early, yo uget smoked. We have kept our powder dry so far, and dishing it out now in the Cup. Great to see!

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                                        kiwiinmelb
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                                        Finally got around to watching a replay ,

                                        Wow , how good was Aaron Smiths passing game ? particularly early,

                                        best passing halfback I have seen,

                                        Went looking and found this ,not sure if everyone has seen this, i hadnt , great to watch ,

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                                        • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                          Finally got around to watching a replay ,

                                          Wow , how good was Aaron Smiths passing game ? particularly early,

                                          best passing halfback I have seen,

                                          Went looking and found this ,not sure if everyone has seen this, i hadnt , great to watch ,

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                                          taniwharugby
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                                          @kiwiinmelb yea I told both the 9s in my sons team to watch that

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