Cricket: NZ vs England
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@canefan said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
Andrew Jones
Nice!
What about John Wright? Did he ever captain the team?
@Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@canefan said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
Andrew Jones
Nice!
What about John Wright? Did he ever captain the team?
You could comb the players who batted at 3 and 4 but never captained
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Root gone!
Santner looks about 6' 2" to me. Taylor is listed as 6' and he is taller than him. Southee is 6' 4".
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Been reading some commentary about Joe Root and how the captaincy is dragging him down brought up a fun question about best batsmen to never captain a side.
For NZ who would our best batsman who never captained the team be? Captain is defined as being the captain at the toss. So guys who only captained a couple of games when the regular captain was injured are counted.
I'm struggling to come up with names for the list. In recent times the only guys that come to mind are Astle and Richardson. Styris if we're counting ODIs.
Some of the older names might get in though. I don't think Donnelly, Dempster, Sutcliffe or Turner ever captained a test.
@Cyclops Without checking, I doubt either of Andrew Jones or John Reid the younger ever did.
But, even though they didn't play many tests, I'd tend to think those older guys you mention should rate ahead of any of the younger guys that any of us actually saw.
n.b. - pretty sure Turner captained for a while e.g. https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/17151/scorecard/63182/new-zealand-vs-australia-1st-test-australia-tour-of-new-zealand-1976-77
Edit - and shoulda refreshed my browser. Wright did for quite a while - between Coney and Crowe.
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@SynicBast said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@Gunner said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@Yeahtheboys said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
Bmac?
Didn’t get his as keeper did he?
Nope, all as a specialist batsman, free of the significant additional mental and physical fatigue of keeping wickets.
To answer this, BMac got 185 vs Bangladesh at Hamilton in 2010 so BJ has broken that record for a NZ wicketkeeper.
The other outrageous stat is that Watling has batted 16 h 16 min between test dismissals.
@Bovidae said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@SynicBast said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@Gunner said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@Yeahtheboys said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
Bmac?
Didn’t get his as keeper did he?
Nope, all as a specialist batsman, free of the significant additional mental and physical fatigue of keeping wickets.
To answer this, BMac got 185 vs Bangladesh at Hamilton in 2010 so BJ has broken that record for a NZ wicketkeeper.
The other outrageous stat is that Watling has batted 16 h 16 min between test dismissals.
we were talking about doubles not daddy centuries - Bmac got all his as a specialist
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@Cyclops Without checking, I doubt either of Andrew Jones or John Reid the younger ever did.
But, even though they didn't play many tests, I'd tend to think those older guys you mention should rate ahead of any of the younger guys that any of us actually saw.
n.b. - pretty sure Turner captained for a while e.g. https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/17151/scorecard/63182/new-zealand-vs-australia-1st-test-australia-tour-of-new-zealand-1976-77
Edit - and shoulda refreshed my browser. Wright did for quite a while - between Coney and Crowe.
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@Bovidae said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@SynicBast said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@Gunner said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
@Yeahtheboys said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
Bmac?
Didn’t get his as keeper did he?
Nope, all as a specialist batsman, free of the significant additional mental and physical fatigue of keeping wickets.
To answer this, BMac got 185 vs Bangladesh at Hamilton in 2010 so BJ has broken that record for a NZ wicketkeeper.
The other outrageous stat is that Watling has batted 16 h 16 min between test dismissals.
we were talking about doubles not daddy centuries - Bmac got all his as a specialist
@SynicBast said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
we were talking about doubles not daddy centuries - Bmac got all his as a specialist
I know. I just posted BMac's highest score as a wicketkeeper/batsmen.
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Stokes dragged on. I think we need at least another one this session.
I think 1/2/4 wickets per session is do-able, but it's asking a lot to get five in the last session with Denly, Pope and Buttler to get through - and Curran, Archer and Broad all able to hold a bat.
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Stokes dragged on. I think we need at least another one this session.
I think 1/2/4 wickets per session is do-able, but it's asking a lot to get five in the last session with Denly, Pope and Buttler to get through - and Curran, Archer and Broad all able to hold a bat.
@Chris-B said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
Stokes dragged on. I think we need at least another one this session.
I think 1/2/4 wickets per session is do-able, but it's asking a lot to get five in the last session with Denly, Pope and Buttler to get through - and Curran, archer and Broad ll able to hold a bat.
Agreed.
I was thinking this morning that the target would have been two wickets a session with 3 in the third. England would have given themselves a 'budget' of one in each session.
Got number two for the session! Denly caught behind off Wags.
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Wags doing the job for us yet again. Is he the most underrated bowler in test cricket at the moment? It feels like everyone always writes him off as 'just' short stuff, like any batsman worth his salt won't be troubled by him at all. Yet match after match after match he breaks down teams with the old ball doing exactly what they were expecting.
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@Chris-B said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
Great catch Santner - shit ball by Wagner.
I don't know about that, it utterly deceived Pope.
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@Chris-B said in Cricket: NZ vs England:
Great catch Santner - shit ball by Wagner.
Pope putting the lie to Papal infallibility!
This is what the English get for rejecting the Pope in 1532...
