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  • RapidoR Offline
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    Rapido
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    List of all time 3rd/4th seamers:

    Wagner really is exceptional.

    http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?bowling_pacespin=1;bowling_positionmin1=3;bowling_positionval1=bowling_position;class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=wickets;template=results;type=bowling

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    • RapidoR Rapido

      List of all time 3rd/4th seamers:

      Wagner really is exceptional.

      http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?bowling_pacespin=1;bowling_positionmin1=3;bowling_positionval1=bowling_position;class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=wickets;template=results;type=bowling

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      @Rapido said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

      List of all time 3rd/4th seamers:

      Wagner really is exceptional.

      http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?bowling_pacespin=1;bowling_positionmin1=3;bowling_positionval1=bowling_position;class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=wickets;template=results;type=bowling

      That's fantastic. While Kallis 'may' be a bit too far to topple, he should easily get into second place.

      How old is Wagner?

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      • HoorooH Hooroo

        @Rapido said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

        List of all time 3rd/4th seamers:

        Wagner really is exceptional.

        http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?bowling_pacespin=1;bowling_positionmin1=3;bowling_positionval1=bowling_position;class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=wickets;template=results;type=bowling

        That's fantastic. While Kallis 'may' be a bit too far to topple, he should easily get into second place.

        How old is Wagner?

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        Hooroo
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        #419

        @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

        @Rapido said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

        List of all time 3rd/4th seamers:

        Wagner really is exceptional.

        http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?bowling_pacespin=1;bowling_positionmin1=3;bowling_positionval1=bowling_position;class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=wickets;template=results;type=bowling

        That's fantastic. While Kallis 'may' be a bit too far to topple, he should easily get into second place.

        How old is Wagner?

        Funny how his list of "Major Teams" includes Otago but excludes ND. Little ole ND not worth mentioning.

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        • HoorooH Hooroo

          @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

          @Rapido said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

          List of all time 3rd/4th seamers:

          Wagner really is exceptional.

          http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?bowling_pacespin=1;bowling_positionmin1=3;bowling_positionval1=bowling_position;class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=wickets;template=results;type=bowling

          That's fantastic. While Kallis 'may' be a bit too far to topple, he should easily get into second place.

          How old is Wagner?

          Funny how his list of "Major Teams" includes Otago but excludes ND. Little ole ND not worth mentioning.

          RapidoR Offline
          RapidoR Offline
          Rapido
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          #420

          @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

          @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

          @Rapido said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

          List of all time 3rd/4th seamers:

          Wagner really is exceptional.

          http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?bowling_pacespin=1;bowling_positionmin1=3;bowling_positionval1=bowling_position;class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=wickets;template=results;type=bowling

          That's fantastic. While Kallis 'may' be a bit too far to topple, he should easily get into second place.

          How old is Wagner?

          Funny how his list of "Major Teams" includes Otago but excludes ND. Little ole ND not worth mentioning.

          Gulp. His is a hard role, and may find he suddenly so'oialos at any moment given his age.

          I think his could be the hardest role to replace.

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          • HoorooH Hooroo

            @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

            @Rapido said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

            List of all time 3rd/4th seamers:

            Wagner really is exceptional.

            http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?bowling_pacespin=1;bowling_positionmin1=3;bowling_positionval1=bowling_position;class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=wickets;template=results;type=bowling

            That's fantastic. While Kallis 'may' be a bit too far to topple, he should easily get into second place.

            How old is Wagner?

            Funny how his list of "Major Teams" includes Otago but excludes ND. Little ole ND not worth mentioning.

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            mariner4life
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            #421

            @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

            @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

            @Rapido said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

            List of all time 3rd/4th seamers:

            Wagner really is exceptional.

            http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?bowling_pacespin=1;bowling_positionmin1=3;bowling_positionval1=bowling_position;class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=wickets;template=results;type=bowling

            That's fantastic. While Kallis 'may' be a bit too far to topple, he should easily get into second place.

            How old is Wagner?

            Funny how his list of "Major Teams" includes Otago but excludes ND. Little ole ND not worth mentioning.

            NORTHERN DISTRICTS IS NEW ZEALAND CRICKET

            alt text

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              Godder
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              #422

              Watling is so awesome at getting the best out of others, even Reason was inspired to write a decent article.

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/117702899/mark-reason-the-true-brilliance-of-bj-watling

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              • RapidoR Offline
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                Rapido
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                #423

                So much praise we will now crash and burn in Hamilton.

                Even I will have to bear some responsibility for the upcoming comeuppance, for my best all-time 3rd seamer link.

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                • RapidoR Rapido

                  So much praise we will now crash and burn in Hamilton.

                  Even I will have to bear some responsibility for the upcoming comeuppance, for my best all-time 3rd seamer link.

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                  mariner4life
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #424

                  @Rapido said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                  So much praise we will now crash and burn in Hamilton.

                  Even I will have to bear some responsibility for the upcoming comeuppance, for my best all-time 3rd seamer link.

                  we are all so scarred by the past

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                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                    @Rapido said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                    So much praise we will now crash and burn in Hamilton.

                    Even I will have to bear some responsibility for the upcoming comeuppance, for my best all-time 3rd seamer link.

                    we are all so scarred by the past

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                    Bones
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #425

                    @mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                    @Rapido said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                    So much praise we will now crash and burn in Hamilton.

                    Even I will have to bear some responsibility for the upcoming comeuppance, for my best all-time 3rd seamer link.

                    we are all so scarred by the past

                    Yeah I was thinking that after reading @No-Quarter post. It's really hard to adjust the mindset that we're actually a good side now and not the much maligned black craps.

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                      @Rapido said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                      So much praise we will now crash and burn in Hamilton.

                      Even I will have to bear some responsibility for the upcoming comeuppance, for my best all-time 3rd seamer link.

                      we are all so scarred by the past

                      Yeah I was thinking that after reading @No-Quarter post. It's really hard to adjust the mindset that we're actually a good side now and not the much maligned black craps.

                      mariner4lifeM Online
                      mariner4lifeM Online
                      mariner4life
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                      #426

                      @Bones said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                      @mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                      @Rapido said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                      So much praise we will now crash and burn in Hamilton.

                      Even I will have to bear some responsibility for the upcoming comeuppance, for my best all-time 3rd seamer link.

                      we are all so scarred by the past

                      Yeah I was thinking that after reading @No-Quarter post. It's really hard to adjust the mindset that we're actually a good side now and not the much maligned black craps.

                      despite at least 4 years of continued excellence in nearly all forms, when the poms cranked on 350, and we lost a couple early, in my mind we were conceding a first innings lead of 150.

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        @Bones said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                        @mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                        @Rapido said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                        So much praise we will now crash and burn in Hamilton.

                        Even I will have to bear some responsibility for the upcoming comeuppance, for my best all-time 3rd seamer link.

                        we are all so scarred by the past

                        Yeah I was thinking that after reading @No-Quarter post. It's really hard to adjust the mindset that we're actually a good side now and not the much maligned black craps.

                        despite at least 4 years of continued excellence in nearly all forms, when the poms cranked on 350, and we lost a couple early, in my mind we were conceding a first innings lead of 150.

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                        Bones
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                        #427

                        @mariner4life and scoring circa 80 in the second.

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                        • CyclopsC Cyclops

                          Been reading some commentary about Joe Root and how the captaincy is dragging him down brought up a fun question about best batsmen to never captain a side.

                          For NZ who would our best batsman who never captained the team be? Captain is defined as being the captain at the toss. So guys who only captained a couple of games when the regular captain was injured are counted.

                          I'm struggling to come up with names for the list. In recent times the only guys that come to mind are Astle and Richardson. Styris if we're counting ODIs.

                          Some of the older names might get in though. I don't think Donnelly, Dempster, Sutcliffe or Turner ever captained a test.

                          canefanC Away
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                          canefan
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #428

                          @Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                          Been reading some commentary about Joe Root and how the captaincy is dragging him down brought up a fun question about best batsmen to never captain a side.

                          For NZ who would our best batsman who never captained the team be? Captain is defined as being the captain at the toss. So guys who only captained a couple of games when the regular captain was injured are counted.

                          I'm struggling to come up with names for the list. In recent times the only guys that come to mind are Astle and Richardson. Styris if we're counting ODIs.

                          Some of the older names might get in though. I don't think Donnelly, Dempster, Sutcliffe or Turner ever captained a test.

                          If he continues his current trajectory Tom Latham could enter the conversation in time

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                          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                            @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                            @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                            @Rapido said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                            List of all time 3rd/4th seamers:

                            Wagner really is exceptional.

                            http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?bowling_pacespin=1;bowling_positionmin1=3;bowling_positionval1=bowling_position;class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=wickets;template=results;type=bowling

                            That's fantastic. While Kallis 'may' be a bit too far to topple, he should easily get into second place.

                            How old is Wagner?

                            Funny how his list of "Major Teams" includes Otago but excludes ND. Little ole ND not worth mentioning.

                            NORTHERN DISTRICTS IS NEW ZEALAND CRICKET

                            alt text

                            HoorooH Offline
                            HoorooH Offline
                            Hooroo
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                            #429

                            @mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                            @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                            @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                            @Rapido said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                            List of all time 3rd/4th seamers:

                            Wagner really is exceptional.

                            http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?bowling_pacespin=1;bowling_positionmin1=3;bowling_positionval1=bowling_position;class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=wickets;template=results;type=bowling

                            That's fantastic. While Kallis 'may' be a bit too far to topple, he should easily get into second place.

                            How old is Wagner?

                            Funny how his list of "Major Teams" includes Otago but excludes ND. Little ole ND not worth mentioning.

                            NORTHERN DISTRICTS IS NEW ZEALAND CRICKET

                            alt text

                            Don’t.Tell.BSG!! Christ knows he’ll have to don his white armour!!!

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                            • RapidoR Rapido

                              @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                              @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                              @Rapido said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                              List of all time 3rd/4th seamers:

                              Wagner really is exceptional.

                              http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?bowling_pacespin=1;bowling_positionmin1=3;bowling_positionval1=bowling_position;class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=wickets;template=results;type=bowling

                              That's fantastic. While Kallis 'may' be a bit too far to topple, he should easily get into second place.

                              How old is Wagner?

                              Funny how his list of "Major Teams" includes Otago but excludes ND. Little ole ND not worth mentioning.

                              Gulp. His is a hard role, and may find he suddenly so'oialos at any moment given his age.

                              I think his could be the hardest role to replace.

                              Victor MeldrewV Away
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                              Victor Meldrew
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #430

                              @Rapido said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                              Gulp. His is a hard role, and may find he suddenly so'oialos at any moment given his age

                              When it happens in your early 20's it's called getting Reiko'd.

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                              • canefanC canefan

                                @Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                Been reading some commentary about Joe Root and how the captaincy is dragging him down brought up a fun question about best batsmen to never captain a side.

                                For NZ who would our best batsman who never captained the team be? Captain is defined as being the captain at the toss. So guys who only captained a couple of games when the regular captain was injured are counted.

                                I'm struggling to come up with names for the list. In recent times the only guys that come to mind are Astle and Richardson. Styris if we're counting ODIs.

                                Some of the older names might get in though. I don't think Donnelly, Dempster, Sutcliffe or Turner ever captained a test.

                                If he continues his current trajectory Tom Latham could enter the conversation in time

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                                Cyclops
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #431

                                @canefan said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                @Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                Been reading some commentary about Joe Root and how the captaincy is dragging him down brought up a fun question about best batsmen to never captain a side.

                                For NZ who would our best batsman who never captained the team be? Captain is defined as being the captain at the toss. So guys who only captained a couple of games when the regular captain was injured are counted.

                                I'm struggling to come up with names for the list. In recent times the only guys that come to mind are Astle and Richardson. Styris if we're counting ODIs.

                                Some of the older names might get in though. I don't think Donnelly, Dempster, Sutcliffe or Turner ever captained a test.

                                If he continues his current trajectory Tom Latham could enter the conversation in time

                                Yes, although he will likely captain the black caps at some point too.

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                  @Rapido said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                  So much praise we will now crash and burn in Hamilton.

                                  Even I will have to bear some responsibility for the upcoming comeuppance, for my best all-time 3rd seamer link.

                                  we are all so scarred by the past

                                  Yeah I was thinking that after reading @No-Quarter post. It's really hard to adjust the mindset that we're actually a good side now and not the much maligned black craps.

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                                  booboo
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                                  #432

                                  @Bones @mariner4life

                                  Young Guns ...
                                  Young Guns ...

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                                    dogmeat
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                                    #433

                                    BJ up to 12 and Wagner 3 in the latest Batting and Bowling Rankings 🙂

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                                      MajorStokes
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                                      #434

                                      Pretty bored of reading about Archer racist abuse - was lead sport story on a few online rags today.

                                      Wonder how big this story would have if England had won as they expected to

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                                      • dogmeatD dogmeat

                                        BJ up to 12 and Wagner 3 in the latest Batting and Bowling Rankings 🙂

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                                        Virgil
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                                        #435

                                        @dogmeat said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                        BJ up to 12 and Wagner 3 in the latest Batting and Bowling Rankings 🙂

                                        Plus CDG finally makes it into the all rounder top 10 as well

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                                        • MajorStokesM MajorStokes

                                          Pretty bored of reading about Archer racist abuse - was lead sport story on a few online rags today.

                                          Wonder how big this story would have if England had won as they expected to

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                                          @MajorRage agree. It is really shit, and I'm glad they are taking it seriously and following up etc. But man they have milked it hard.

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