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RWC Final: England v Springboks

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  • DuluthD Duluth

    Willie Le Roux, Cheslin Kolbe, Lukhanyo Am, Damian de Allende, Makazole Mapimpi, Handre Pollard, Faf de Klerk; Duane Vermeulen, Pieter-Steph du Toit, Siya Kolisi (c), Lood de Jager, Eben Etzebeth, Frans Malherb, Mbongeni Mbonambi, Tendai Mtawarira

    Reserves: Malcolm Marx, Steven Kitshoff, Vincent Koch, RG Synman, Franco Mostert, Francois Louw, Herschel Jantjies, Frans Steyn


    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/117053306/england-v-south-africa-dynamite-springboks-wing-cheslin-kolbe-returns-for-world-cup-final

    England name their team at 3:30pm

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    @Duluth said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

    Willie Le Roux, Cheslin Kolbe, Lukhanyo Am, Damian de Allende, Makazole Mapimpi, Handre Pollard, Faf de Klerk; Duane Vermeulen, Pieter-Steph du Toit, Siya Kolisi (c), Lood de Jager, Eben Etzebeth, Frans Malherb, Mbongeni Mbonambi, Tendai Mtawarira

    Reserves: Malcolm Marx, Steven Kitshoff, Vincent Koch, RG Synman, Franco Mostert, Francois Louw, Herschel Jantjies, Frans Steyn


    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/117053306/england-v-south-africa-dynamite-springboks-wing-cheslin-kolbe-returns-for-world-cup-final

    England name their team at 3:30pm

    I would have kept Nkosi on the right wing and picked Kolbe at full back.

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      Youngs injured early could be telling.

      Still not convinced that Slade is fully match fit.

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        Youngs injured early could be telling.

        Still not convinced that Slade is fully match fit.

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        @MiketheSnow said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

        Youngs injured early could be telling.

        Still not convinced that Slade is fully match fit.

        Slade is the worry, he’s a great player and adds a lot to England’s attack but has been a run short of a gallop in the RWC. Nowell is either still not fit or has dramatically slid downhill in Eddie’s thoughts. I’m not too worried about Spencer coming on for Youngs, as I feel he should have been there from the start. What does worry me is an early injury in the back three. No real cover there.

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          @MiketheSnow

          Question for you Mike, now that the immediate pain of missing out on the final may have lessened, which would you rather have in your pocket - RWC final or ending 66 years of hurt and beating NZ? And no, I’m not giving you the option of winning the Cup. 😉

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          • CatograndeC Catogrande

            @MiketheSnow

            Question for you Mike, now that the immediate pain of missing out on the final may have lessened, which would you rather have in your pocket - RWC final or ending 66 years of hurt and beating NZ? And no, I’m not giving you the option of winning the Cup. 😉

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            @Catogrande said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

            @MiketheSnow

            Question for you Mike, now that the immediate pain of missing out on the final may have lessened, which would you rather have in your pocket - RWC final or ending 66 years of hurt and beating NZ? And no, I’m not giving you the option of winning the Cup. 😉

            100% being in the Final and having the opportunity to win it all 🙂

            Whilst the opportunity to win the WC comes round every four years, for a team like Wales it's more like an 8 or 12 year cycle.

            But seeing as you took that off the table, beating NZ.

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            • CatograndeC Catogrande

              @MiketheSnow said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

              Youngs injured early could be telling.

              Still not convinced that Slade is fully match fit.

              Slade is the worry, he’s a great player and adds a lot to England’s attack but has been a run short of a gallop in the RWC. Nowell is either still not fit or has dramatically slid downhill in Eddie’s thoughts. I’m not too worried about Spencer coming on for Youngs, as I feel he should have been there from the start. What does worry me is an early injury in the back three. No real cover there.

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              @Catogrande said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

              @MiketheSnow said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

              Youngs injured early could be telling.

              Still not convinced that Slade is fully match fit.

              I’m not too worried about Spencer coming on for Youngs, as I feel he should have been there from the start.

              Parachuted straight into a WC Final and coming on before the match is sewn up.

              Will take Beaver sized balls to not get overawed.

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              • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                @Catogrande said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                @MiketheSnow said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                Youngs injured early could be telling.

                Still not convinced that Slade is fully match fit.

                I’m not too worried about Spencer coming on for Youngs, as I feel he should have been there from the start.

                Parachuted straight into a WC Final and coming on before the match is sewn up.

                Will take Beaver sized balls to not get overawed.

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                @MiketheSnow said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                @Catogrande said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                @MiketheSnow said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                Youngs injured early could be telling.

                Still not convinced that Slade is fully match fit.

                I’m not too worried about Spencer coming on for Youngs, as I feel he should have been there from the start.

                Parachuted straight into a WC Final and coming on before the match is sewn up.

                Will take Beaver sized balls to not get overawed.

                You may have a point although perhaps less of an issue for him than Beaver. The latter had been looked at, derided and the overlooked. Was not even on the radar -not even a shirt to fit him and relatively unfit. Spencer has been on call from the word go and was involved in the England set up right until shipping out to Japan. For sure it's quite an ask but not up there with the Beaver fairytale. Doubt that can be beaten.

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                  Willie Le Roux is a big roll of the dice.

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                    Willie Le Roux is a big roll of the dice.

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                    @pakman Re: Willie
                    https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/dpmf6v/sas_gameplan/

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                      @pakman Re: Willie
                      https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/dpmf6v/sas_gameplan/

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                      @Daffy-Jaffy said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                      @pakman Re: Willie
                      https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/dpmf6v/sas_gameplan/

                      That was pretty funny, Faf doing his hair before kicking more so than Willie.

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                        https://www.instagram.com/p/B4S6R7wAwQH/?igshid=1k5oh98lifye9

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                        • jeggaJ jegga

                          https://www.instagram.com/p/B4S6R7wAwQH/?igshid=1k5oh98lifye9

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                          @jegga said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                          https://www.instagram.com/p/B4S6R7wAwQH/?igshid=1k5oh98lifye9

                          That is an incredible stat and one I struggle to believe. So that means it was pick and gos all day

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                            @jegga said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                            https://www.instagram.com/p/B4S6R7wAwQH/?igshid=1k5oh98lifye9

                            That is an incredible stat and one I struggle to believe. So that means it was pick and gos all day

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                            @Hooroo And it also doesn't matter. If the game plan is to kick and tackle, and they win the game who cares how many passes got them there.

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                              @Hooroo And it also doesn't matter. If the game plan is to kick and tackle, and they win the game who cares how many passes got them there.

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                              @Kirwan said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                              @Hooroo And it also doesn't matter. If the game plan is to kick and tackle, and they win the game who cares how many passes got them there.

                              I agree but it is still an incredible stat for me. That must be some sort of record in the modern age?

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                                @Kirwan said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                                @Hooroo And it also doesn't matter. If the game plan is to kick and tackle, and they win the game who cares how many passes got them there.

                                I agree but it is still an incredible stat for me. That must be some sort of record in the modern age?

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                                @Hooroo said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                                @Kirwan said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                                @Hooroo And it also doesn't matter. If the game plan is to kick and tackle, and they win the game who cares how many passes got them there.

                                I agree but it is still an incredible stat for me. That must be some sort of record in the modern age?

                                Gregan had a similarly ridiculous stat in the lions series over the three tests . I can’t remember the exact figures off hand though .

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                                  @Hooroo said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                                  @Kirwan said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                                  @Hooroo And it also doesn't matter. If the game plan is to kick and tackle, and they win the game who cares how many passes got them there.

                                  I agree but it is still an incredible stat for me. That must be some sort of record in the modern age?

                                  Gregan had a similarly ridiculous stat in the lions series over the three tests . I can’t remember the exact figures off hand though .

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                                  @jegga said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                                  @Hooroo said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                                  @Kirwan said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                                  @Hooroo And it also doesn't matter. If the game plan is to kick and tackle, and they win the game who cares how many passes got them there.

                                  I agree but it is still an incredible stat for me. That must be some sort of record in the modern age?

                                  Gregan had a similarly ridiculous stat in the lions series over the three tests . I can’t remember the exact figures off hand though .

                                  That's not the stat that interests me though, it is the lack of passes by SA in 80 mins that I struggle to get my head around

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                                    @jegga said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                                    @Hooroo said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                                    @Kirwan said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                                    @Hooroo And it also doesn't matter. If the game plan is to kick and tackle, and they win the game who cares how many passes got them there.

                                    I agree but it is still an incredible stat for me. That must be some sort of record in the modern age?

                                    Gregan had a similarly ridiculous stat in the lions series over the three tests . I can’t remember the exact figures off hand though .

                                    That's not the stat that interests me though, it is the lack of passes by SA in 80 mins that I struggle to get my head around

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                                    @Hooroo said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                                    @jegga said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                                    @Hooroo said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                                    @Kirwan said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                                    @Hooroo And it also doesn't matter. If the game plan is to kick and tackle, and they win the game who cares how many passes got them there.

                                    I agree but it is still an incredible stat for me. That must be some sort of record in the modern age?

                                    Gregan had a similarly ridiculous stat in the lions series over the three tests . I can’t remember the exact figures off hand though .

                                    That's not the stat that interests me though, it is the lack of passes by SA in 80 mins that I struggle to get my head around

                                    With you now. It does seem bizarre.

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                                      https://www.instagram.com/p/B4S6R7wAwQH/?igshid=1k5oh98lifye9

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                                      @jegga said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                                      https://www.instagram.com/p/B4S6R7wAwQH/?igshid=1k5oh98lifye9

                                      Faf de Klerk was catching a domestic flight in Japan and when he sat down in the aisle seat he noticed the guy in the window seat gave him a quick sideward glance then carried on reading his book. Convinced he had not been recognised he opened his passport and left it in full view of the guy at the window.

                                      Still nothing, so he then placed his no 9 rugby Jersey on the tray, still no hint of recognition. Despite having his pen ready to sign.

                                      Finally he couldn't contain himself anymore so he tapped the guy in the window seat on the shoulder and said "Excuse me, do you know who I am?" The bloke in the window seat says "Yes you are Faf de Klerk, Springbok scrum half".

                                      Faf got this big grin and said "Yes that's me". The bloke in the window seat says "Do you know who I am?" Faf replies "No, I have never seen you before, who are you?" The bloke at the window says "Let me introduce myself, I am Handre Pollard, your fly half."

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                                        @jegga said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                                        https://www.instagram.com/p/B4S6R7wAwQH/?igshid=1k5oh98lifye9

                                        Faf de Klerk was catching a domestic flight in Japan and when he sat down in the aisle seat he noticed the guy in the window seat gave him a quick sideward glance then carried on reading his book. Convinced he had not been recognised he opened his passport and left it in full view of the guy at the window.

                                        Still nothing, so he then placed his no 9 rugby Jersey on the tray, still no hint of recognition. Despite having his pen ready to sign.

                                        Finally he couldn't contain himself anymore so he tapped the guy in the window seat on the shoulder and said "Excuse me, do you know who I am?" The bloke in the window seat says "Yes you are Faf de Klerk, Springbok scrum half".

                                        Faf got this big grin and said "Yes that's me". The bloke in the window seat says "Do you know who I am?" Faf replies "No, I have never seen you before, who are you?" The bloke at the window says "Let me introduce myself, I am Handre Pollard, your fly half."

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                                        @antipodean was funnier in 1981 when it was Naas Botha 😉

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                                          A bloody interesting stat,

                                          South Africa have never scored a try in a WC final , despite winning 2 .

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