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Cricket: NZ vs Aus

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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    @Chris-B exactly. 5th is right given the dogshit teams tehy were putting out when their best batsmen were suspended, and they had to rotate their top 3 bowlers.

    Now though? And at home? 5th is a joke.

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    @mariner4life Exactly!

    That current bowling attack is possibly the best they've had since Lillee and Thommo - it's at least equal to McGrath, Warne and Co. - especially on a pitch like Perth.

    I'm doubtful anyone would have fared better than us in the first innings in Perth against that bowling. Maybe India if their openers had hung around longer to provide a bit of protection for Kohli.

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    • canefanC canefan

      Our batsmen need to show a shitload more discipline and application in Melbourne. I still can't understand why Ajaz wasn't considered, he would have rocked it on that deck. Not quite as shocking as omitting Sam Cane, but so much has to go our way to win without us shooting ourselves in the foot

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      @canefan said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

      Our batsmen need to show a shitload more discipline and application in Melbourne. I still can't understand why Ajaz wasn't considered, he would have rocked it on that deck. Not quite as shocking as omitting Sam Cane, but so much has to go our way to win without us shooting ourselves in the foot

      But is Cane an opener?

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        @canefan said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

        Our batsmen need to show a shitload more discipline and application in Melbourne. I still can't understand why Ajaz wasn't considered, he would have rocked it on that deck. Not quite as shocking as omitting Sam Cane, but so much has to go our way to win without us shooting ourselves in the foot

        But is Cane an opener?

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        @booboo I reckon he'd show better form than Raval

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          Test match cricket is basically a question of whether or not you can win away from home. You need a few things to go your way when playing here, let alone in Perth in sweltering conditions and in form Aussie seamers. These aren’t excuses, just the reality.

          Given MCG conditions are likely to be quite different I think they will stick with the current openers.

          When I look at our squad overall I’m not seeing a whole lot of ‘pick me, I demand it” from those that sat on the sidelines in Perth.

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            So Lockie has come home. Do we replace him with:

            Another pace bowler?
            A spinner?
            An opening batsman?

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            • Chris B.C Chris B.

              So Lockie has come home. Do we replace him with:

              Another pace bowler?
              A spinner?
              An opening batsman?

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              @Chris-B Lockie is interesting. Another NZ fast bowler who is short and bowling at the limitations of his body. Aside from breaking down he didn't have the control to be demanding at this level of cricket. Test cricket is the form of cricket that finds players out.

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              • K kev

                @Chris-B Lockie is interesting. Another NZ fast bowler who is short and bowling at the limitations of his body. Aside from breaking down he didn't have the control to be demanding at this level of cricket. Test cricket is the form of cricket that finds players out.

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                @kev Yeah.

                I guess to be fair, it was his debut test and he was potentially trying too hard (maybe hence the injury).

                Worth more cracks, I think - but, I'm pretty mystified as to why they picked Matt Henry ahead of him in Hamilton. A 1-0 lead in a series that didn't count for the WTC - better place to blood him than in the hotbed of Perth.

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                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                  @kev Yeah.

                  I guess to be fair, it was his debut test and he was potentially trying too hard (maybe hence the injury).

                  Worth more cracks, I think - but, I'm pretty mystified as to why they picked Matt Henry ahead of him in Hamilton. A 1-0 lead in a series that didn't count for the WTC - better place to blood him than in the hotbed of Perth.

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                  @Chris-B agree, he needs to work on control for the future. I fear he will join the long list of NZ fasts that are promising that break down.

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                  • K kev

                    @Chris-B agree, he needs to work on control for the future. I fear he will join the long list of NZ fasts that are promising that break down.

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                    @kev One good thing about Lockie is that he's a bit older (28) and I've read that makes a difference with injuries compared to really young guys who are pretty much still growing - up till about 24.

                    And it's not a back injury that has got him.

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                      Kyle Jamieson called up. A century batting at 8 vs England... my instinctive reaction was to wonder whether he could open vs Australia/do worse than the incumbent 🙂

                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/black-caps/118247130/australia-vs-new-zealand-kyle-jamieson-summoned-to-black-caps-test-squad#comments

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                      • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                        Kyle Jamieson called up. A century batting at 8 vs England... my instinctive reaction was to wonder whether he could open vs Australia/do worse than the incumbent 🙂

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/black-caps/118247130/australia-vs-new-zealand-kyle-jamieson-summoned-to-black-caps-test-squad#comments

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                        @Donsteppa Interesting!

                        I guess there's very little chance of Jamieson playing, because Matt Henry is surely ahead of him in the queue and Henry surely won't play unless Boult (or one of the other seamers) isn't fit.

                        Jamieson might be handy in the nets though, because he's about the same height as Starc (even taller, I think) - unfortunately, last time I saw him his pace was more like CdG's!

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                          Isnt there a 2 day game vs Victoria coming up?

                          Be interesting which bowlers play in that one given workload and injury.

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                            Isnt there a 2 day game vs Victoria coming up?

                            Be interesting which bowlers play in that one given workload and injury.

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                            @KiwiMurph I'd guess all of Southee, Wagner and de Grandhomme will sit it out.

                            Be interesting to see who opens the batting - I'd be somewhat inclined to go with Raval and whomever his potential replacement would be - Blundell, Nicholls or BJ.

                            Tom Latham could bat at 5.

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                              Whats Jordie Barrett up to at the moment...?

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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                Isnt there a 2 day game vs Victoria coming up?

                                Be interesting which bowlers play in that one given workload and injury.

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                                @KiwiMurph said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                Isnt there a 2 day game vs Victoria coming up?

                                Be interesting which bowlers play in that one given workload and injury.

                                I’ve seen this reported but have had no luck finding out where this is being played.

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                                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                  @KiwiMurph I'd guess all of Southee, Wagner and de Grandhomme will sit it out.

                                  Be interesting to see who opens the batting - I'd be somewhat inclined to go with Raval and whomever his potential replacement would be - Blundell, Nicholls or BJ.

                                  Tom Latham could bat at 5.

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                                  @Chris-B said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                  @KiwiMurph I'd guess all of Southee, Wagner and de Grandhomme will sit it out.

                                  Be interesting to see who opens the batting - I'd be somewhat inclined to go with Raval and whomever his potential replacement would be - Blundell, Nicholls or BJ.

                                  Tom Latham could bat at 5.

                                  Seems to be the best approach. Feels like it's our batsmen that need the most work so watch as we lose the toss and spend a day and a half in the field.

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                                  • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                    @KiwiMurph I'd guess all of Southee, Wagner and de Grandhomme will sit it out.

                                    Be interesting to see who opens the batting - I'd be somewhat inclined to go with Raval and whomever his potential replacement would be - Blundell, Nicholls or BJ.

                                    Tom Latham could bat at 5.

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                                    @Chris-B BJ should stay where he is

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                                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                      @KiwiMurph said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                      Isnt there a 2 day game vs Victoria coming up?

                                      Be interesting which bowlers play in that one given workload and injury.

                                      I’ve seen this reported but have had no luck finding out where this is being played.

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                                      @ACT-Crusader said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                      @KiwiMurph said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                      Isnt there a 2 day game vs Victoria coming up?

                                      Be interesting which bowlers play in that one given workload and injury.

                                      I’ve seen this reported but have had no luck finding out where this is being played.

                                      yeah, weird Cricinfo doesn't have it

                                      ... and just checked NZC - they don't have it either. Suggest you email them; i'm sure they'll give you the inf you need

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                                      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                        @KiwiMurph said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                        Isnt there a 2 day game vs Victoria coming up?

                                        Be interesting which bowlers play in that one given workload and injury.

                                        I’ve seen this reported but have had no luck finding out where this is being played.

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                                        @ACT-Crusader said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                        @KiwiMurph said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                        Isnt there a 2 day game vs Victoria coming up?

                                        Be interesting which bowlers play in that one given workload and injury.

                                        I’ve seen this reported but have had no luck finding out where this is being played.

                                        If you are nearby perhaps you could pop in and drop something off for the players

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                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/black-caps/118289953/australia-v-new-zealand-the-massive-numbers-predicted-for-boxing-day-test

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