Possible All Blacks 2020
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@Bovidae said in Blues v Lions:
Foster and Plumtree will want both Cane and Savea in their starting XV so that means finding another loose forward who complements them. The first part of that equation is deciding if Ardie moves to no.8 or Cane could be used as a 6. That 3rd player will need to be a good option in the lineout too.
I can see Ardie being the So’oialo-like number 8 in a back row with Cane and one other. The question become who is the bruiser playing at 6 to balance out that loose trio?
@junior said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@Bovidae said in Blues v Lions:
Foster and Plumtree will want both Cane and Savea in their starting XV so that means finding another loose forward who complements them. The first part of that equation is deciding if Ardie moves to no.8 or Cane could be used as a 6. That 3rd player will need to be a good option in the lineout too.
I can see Ardie being the So’oialo-like number 8 in a back row with Cane and one other. The question become who is the bruiser playing at 6 to balance out that loose trio?
Currently a fan of Grace but he's got quite a bit of proving to do.
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@Canes4life said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@Bones lol Savea starts before any of those three. Especially on last year's form, he was arguably the best player in the world.
Before Cane?
@booboo said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@Canes4life said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@Bones lol Savea starts before any of those three. Especially on last year's form, he was arguably the best player in the world.
Before Cane?
If necessary, yes. On last year. But really they both start and we find third to compliment
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@booboo said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@Canes4life said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@Bones lol Savea starts before any of those three. Especially on last year's form, he was arguably the best player in the world.
Before Cane?
If necessary, yes. On last year. But really they both start and we find third to compliment
@Machpants said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@booboo said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@Canes4life said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@Bones lol Savea starts before any of those three. Especially on last year's form, he was arguably the best player in the world.
Before Cane?
If necessary, yes. On last year. But really they both start and we find third to compliment
Kind of my point.
Savea doesn't start in front of Cane for me.
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@Machpants said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@booboo said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@Canes4life said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@Bones lol Savea starts before any of those three. Especially on last year's form, he was arguably the best player in the world.
Before Cane?
If necessary, yes. On last year. But really they both start and we find third to compliment
Kind of my point.
Savea doesn't start in front of Cane for me.
@booboo said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@Machpants said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@booboo said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@Canes4life said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@Bones lol Savea starts before any of those three. Especially on last year's form, he was arguably the best player in the world.
Before Cane?
If necessary, yes. On last year. But really they both start and we find third to compliment
Kind of my point.
Savea doesn't Starr in front of Cane for me.
Savea starts at 7 ahead of Cane for me. Cane is our best 6 at the moment so he's a locked in starter too. But if we had (say) peak Kaino and Read then Cane sits on the pine.
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@Canes4life said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@Bones lol Savea starts before any of those three. Especially on last year's form, he was arguably the best player in the world.
Before Cane?
@booboo certainly, based on his form before he was injured.
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@KiwiMurph said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
Cane would be favourite to be captain I would assume.
Makes sense given he's the first forward picked.
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Am glad we can still argue over All Black selection and expose obvious provincial biases even in these times.
@booboo said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
Am glad we can still argue over All Black selection and expose obvious provincial biases even in these times.
I would select Cane over Savea who is from the Canes which is the franchise that my province is part of. See we're not all biased.
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Boshier must be in the squad. He is the standout loose forward (I don't know if he is a pure openside or a 6.5) so far. I'll go with Sotutu at Nr.8 and Mark Telea on the left wing.
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@sparky said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
I really can't see the Wales and Scotland tour going ahead.
There's a long way to go yet. Hopefully they'll apply soap to all this hand-wringing and it will solve itself.
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@Bovidae can recall Kieran Reads tackle on Rocky Elsom in the 2011 RWC semi final was an absolute beauty ,surprised Elsom still got up.
@Steven-Harris said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@Bovidae can recall Kieran Reads tackle on Rocky Elsom in the 2011 RWC semi final was an absolute beauty ,surprised Elsom still got up.
The tackle on McCabe was near halfway on the ASB stand side of the field in the 1st half.
I had a really good view of the Kaino tackle on Ioane too.
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@KiwiMurph said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
Cane would be favourite to be captain I would assume.
It's safe to say the captain will be called Sam.
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If the bullshit line I was fed that the only reason Sam Whitelock lashed out in the semi was because of all the rookies around him, is even remotely true, then there is no way he can be captain.
There has been a succession of captains out of the crusaders and they have all been shit bar one. Try something different guys.
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If the bullshit line I was fed that the only reason Sam Whitelock lashed out in the semi was because of all the rookies around him, is even remotely true, then there is no way he can be captain.
There has been a succession of captains out of the crusaders and they have all been shit bar one. Try something different guys.
@mariner4life Foster has already decided on his captain, whoever that is. I wouldn't pick Whitelock either but I can't see anyone other than Cane or him being the choice. No point selecting a player who will be replaced during the game (e.g. front row, halfback).
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@mariner4life Foster has already decided on his captain, whoever that is. I wouldn't pick Whitelock either but I can't see anyone other than Cane or him being the choice. No point selecting a player who will be replaced during the game (e.g. front row, halfback).
@Bovidae said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@mariner4life Foster has already decided on his captain, whoever that is. I wouldn't pick Whitelock either but I can't see anyone other than Cane or him being the choice. No point selecting a player who will be replaced during the game (e.g. front row, halfback).
Can you select a reserve as your captain? Scott Barrett for captain!
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If the bullshit line I was fed that the only reason Sam Whitelock lashed out in the semi was because of all the rookies around him, is even remotely true, then there is no way he can be captain.
There has been a succession of captains out of the crusaders and they have all been shit bar one. Try something different guys.
@mariner4life said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
There has been a succession of captains out of the crusaders and they have all been shit bar one. Try something different guys.
It's pretty fucking early to be going back to the Chiefs region for a coach - let alone a Waikato one!
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@mariner4life said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
There has been a succession of captains out of the crusaders and they have all been shit bar one. Try something different guys.
It's pretty fucking early to be going back to the Chiefs region for a coach - let alone a Waikato one!
