'Super Rugby' 2021
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I am completely new to streaming sport. Might be a silly question, but I am a tech retard, are the games going to be available on Stan to watch later? Often I am working during the game and can't watch live. Surely they will be archived?
@Crazy-Horse said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
I am completely new to streaming sport. Might be a silly question, but I am a tech retard, are the games going to be available on Stan to watch later? Often I am working during the game and can't watch live. Surely they will be archived?
Yep you can watch them latter they will be there to watch anytime
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I was wondering about the preseason games myself.
2021 pre-season schedule
Crusaders v Highlanders, Friday 12 February, 5.30pm, Temuka (Sky Sport 1)
Hurricanes v Blues v Chiefs, Saturday 13 February, 12pm, Upper Hutt (Broadcast TBC)
Highlanders v Hurricanes, Friday 19 February, 6pm, Alexandra (Sky Sport 1)
Blues v Crusaders, Saturday 20 February, 3.35pm, Eden Park (Sky Sport 1)https://www.allblacks.com/news/sky-super-rugby-aotearoa-pre-season-schedule/
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@Bones said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
Sounds naff
FFS, I hate this shit. How about they work on getting the TMO to not fuck up clear decisions. Referring them more things to get wrong is not going to improve the game.
Not sure how allowing the defending team to kick the ball away after the attacking team has been held up over try line is going to promote attacking play.
But hey, lets go all out like the BBL and introduce power plays and power surges and mega awesome lightning periods where tries are worth 100 and fans can vote on removing the boots of an opposition player for 10mins.
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@Bones said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
Sounds naff
FFS, I hate this shit. How about they work on getting the TMO to not fuck up clear decisions. Referring them more things to get wrong is not going to improve the game.
Not sure how allowing the defending team to kick the ball away after the attacking team has been held up over try line is going to promote attacking play.
But hey, lets go all out like the BBL and introduce power plays and power surges and mega awesome lightning periods where tries are worth 100 and fans can vote on removing the boots of an opposition player for 10mins.
@pukunui said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Bones said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
Sounds naff
FFS, I hate this shit. How about they work on getting the TMO to not fuck up clear decisions. Referring them more things to get wrong is not going to improve the game.
Not sure how allowing the defending team to kick the ball away after the attacking team has been held up over try line is going to promote attacking play.
But hey, lets go all out like the BBL and introduce power plays and power surges and mega awesome lightning periods where tries are worth 100 and fans can vote on removing the boots of an opposition player for 10mins.
im going to have to read this now, I thought it was only if the defending team touches it down in goal, ie instead of a 22 drop out its a goal line drop out
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@pukunui said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Bones said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
Sounds naff
FFS, I hate this shit. How about they work on getting the TMO to not fuck up clear decisions. Referring them more things to get wrong is not going to improve the game.
Not sure how allowing the defending team to kick the ball away after the attacking team has been held up over try line is going to promote attacking play.
But hey, lets go all out like the BBL and introduce power plays and power surges and mega awesome lightning periods where tries are worth 100 and fans can vote on removing the boots of an opposition player for 10mins.
im going to have to read this now, I thought it was only if the defending team touches it down in goal, ie instead of a 22 drop out its a goal line drop out
@Kiwiwomble said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@pukunui said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Bones said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
Sounds naff
FFS, I hate this shit. How about they work on getting the TMO to not fuck up clear decisions. Referring them more things to get wrong is not going to improve the game.
Not sure how allowing the defending team to kick the ball away after the attacking team has been held up over try line is going to promote attacking play.
But hey, lets go all out like the BBL and introduce power plays and power surges and mega awesome lightning periods where tries are worth 100 and fans can vote on removing the boots of an opposition player for 10mins.
im going to have to read this now, I thought it was only if the defending team touches it down in goal, ie instead of a 22 drop out its a goal line drop out
No, looks like being held up over the line is no longer a scrum with the held up team feeding. It is a boot downfield by the defenders. Stupid.
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@Kiwiwomble said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@pukunui said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Bones said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
Sounds naff
FFS, I hate this shit. How about they work on getting the TMO to not fuck up clear decisions. Referring them more things to get wrong is not going to improve the game.
Not sure how allowing the defending team to kick the ball away after the attacking team has been held up over try line is going to promote attacking play.
But hey, lets go all out like the BBL and introduce power plays and power surges and mega awesome lightning periods where tries are worth 100 and fans can vote on removing the boots of an opposition player for 10mins.
im going to have to read this now, I thought it was only if the defending team touches it down in goal, ie instead of a 22 drop out its a goal line drop out
No, looks like being held up over the line is no longer a scrum with the held up team feeding. It is a boot downfield by the defenders. Stupid.
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From the NZR media release:
A goal line drop-out will occur when an attacking player carrying the ball is held up in the in-goal or knocks the ball on in the in-goal area, or when an attacking kick, other than a penalty or drop goal attempt, is grounded by the defending team in their in-goal area.The rationale for introducing the goal line drop-out was to reward attacking teams by allowing them to build pressure and to encourage defending teams to clear the ball from their in-goal area, Anthony said. “We’ve had great support for this innovation from coaches and players and we’re confident it will be popular with fans. “The current re-start rule of a 22-metre drop-out often pushes the receiving team well back into their own half and we think teams will be more likely to counter-attack from a goal line drop-out, which will in turn lead to more attacking pressure and hopefully more tries.” -
@pukunui don't like that
how about if a defending team carries it back?
@Kiwiwomble said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
how about if a defending team carries it back?
5m attacking scrum
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@Kiwiwomble said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
how about if a defending team carries it back?
5m attacking scrum
@Kiap which seems even stupid...er, if theyre not getting rid of those attacking scrums all together or something
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I look at it as 'who should get the award, and how much ...'
A defender forced to carry back and ground in their own in-goal ... well, I'm not gonna say they stuffed up, but they've certainly conceded. It's like tapping out in martial arts; you've lost the contest.
It's a no-brainer that this is a 5m attacking scrum.
The contest loser doesn't get the reward. It would be wrong to allow a drop-out in that instance because it would benefit the loser by advancing play 20-30 metres upfield.
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I look at it as 'who should get the award, and how much ...'
A defender forced to carry back and ground in their own in-goal ... well, I'm not gonna say they stuffed up, but they've certainly conceded. It's like tapping out in martial arts; you've lost the contest.
It's a no-brainer that this is a 5m attacking scrum.
The contest loser doesn't get the reward. It would be wrong to allow a drop-out in that instance because it would benefit the loser by advancing play 20-30 metres upfield.
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@Kiap agreed, but is just managing to get a hand under the ball worth the reward of being able to boot it back downfield?
@Kiwiwomble said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Kiap agreed, but is just managing to get a hand under the ball worth the reward of being able to boot it back downfield?
In that case, the ball carrier has lost the contest by the ball being held up.
Why should that player's team be rewarded with repeat attempts 5m out?
They stuffed up the try. There's no excuse for it from a rolling maul or scrum. That team can run it again starting 25-30m out.
Even worse is the ten x 1 metre pick and goes.
If the defence forces a 'held up' they earn that restart moving upfield.
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The two big changes I'm interested in watching are rewarding teams for good kicks (22 - 50) which should help keep wingers slightly back.
And maintaining some semblance of a contest despite losing a player to card lottery.
FWIW I'm also coming around to @Kiap's argument.
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@Kiwiwomble said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Kiap agreed, but is just managing to get a hand under the ball worth the reward of being able to boot it back downfield?
In that case, the ball carrier has lost the contest by the ball being held up.
Why should that player's team be rewarded with repeat attempts 5m out?
They stuffed up the try. There's no excuse for it from a rolling maul or scrum. That team can run it again starting 25-30m out.
Even worse is the ten x 1 metre pick and goes.
If the defence forces a 'held up' they earn that restart moving upfield.
@Kiap I think both situations could be viewed from both sides, rather than a defending team stuffing up but taking it back you could say the attacking team pressured them into it
so we're deeming the team in possession to be the team to be punished? it guess that make some sense and aligns with how the rules are going
