Skip to content
  • Categories
Collapse

The Silver Fern

  • Tipping
  • Team Sheets
  • Highlights
  • Results
    • All Blacks

      Search every All Blacks Test. Filter results by year, opposition, location, venue, city and RWC stage

    • Super Rugby

      Search every Super Rugby since match 1996

    • NPC

      Search NPC results. Only first division matches from 1976-2005. All results from the 14 team competition (2006-present) are included

Blues v Highlanders

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Rugby Matches
blueshighlanders
439 Posts 47 Posters 15.9k Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • DuluthD Duluth

    So any changes for the Blues?

    At some stage the Blues need to give some serious time to a backup midfielder (probably Plummer with Marchant about to leave?) Also it's worth having a look at Christie at some stage.

    Personally I hope the midfield starts the same and they just give Plummer a longer stint from the bench

    I think they might start Christie though. In both matches Christie has subbed on about the same time Black goes off. So they've alway ended with Christie/Barrett at 9 & 10. I think they might start with that combo and finish with Nock/Black

    nzzpN Online
    nzzpN Online
    nzzp
    wrote on last edited by
    #4

    @Duluth I'm not so sure. It's an 8 game comp, with two byes. For us, it's a block of 3, then a block of 4 games, then the last game against the Crusaders.

    Rotation not nearly so critical I don't think. More importnat to play your frontline XV, and keep winning. Sub early if needed.

    DuluthD 1 Reply Last reply
    1
    • nzzpN nzzp

      @Duluth I'm not so sure. It's an 8 game comp, with two byes. For us, it's a block of 3, then a block of 4 games, then the last game against the Crusaders.

      Rotation not nearly so critical I don't think. More importnat to play your frontline XV, and keep winning. Sub early if needed.

      DuluthD Offline
      DuluthD Offline
      Duluth
      wrote on last edited by Duluth
      #5

      @nzzp said in Blues v Highlanders:

      Rotation not nearly so critical I don't think

      Not really about rotation, it's about preparing for the inevitable injuries.

      Backup halfback is untried, midfield depth is very thin and Duffie has not played much at fullback. It's pragmatic to start building the depth in weak area's

      Also, maybe a Christie/Barrett/TJ/Ioane backline is the best option

      SnowyS 1 Reply Last reply
      1
      • ACT CrusaderA Offline
        ACT CrusaderA Offline
        ACT Crusader
        wrote on last edited by
        #6

        It’s a fine balance I guess. It’s a short comp so ideally you should be able to play your best lineup as much as possible. But some players ‘need their chance to show out’, others need to be tested should injury strike.

        I’d be playing the same lineup and I reckon Rangi will do his best to not disrupt.

        1 Reply Last reply
        2
        • KiwiMurphK Online
          KiwiMurphK Online
          KiwiMurph
          wrote on last edited by
          #7

          Blues will need to rotate somewhat - 3rd straight derby and Highlanders off the bye.

          However I would not be throwing Christie into starting just yet. He went very well off the bench so i'd be looking at giving him more bench minutes this week but starting is a different prospect entirely.

          I'd be tempted to look at Tolai as bench hooker.

          taniwharugbyT DiceD 2 Replies Last reply
          2
          • DuluthD Duluth

            @nzzp said in Blues v Highlanders:

            Rotation not nearly so critical I don't think

            Not really about rotation, it's about preparing for the inevitable injuries.

            Backup halfback is untried, midfield depth is very thin and Duffie has not played much at fullback. It's pragmatic to start building the depth in weak area's

            Also, maybe a Christie/Barrett/TJ/Ioane backline is the best option

            SnowyS Offline
            SnowyS Offline
            Snowy
            wrote on last edited by
            #8

            @Duluth said in Blues v Highlanders:

            Not really about rotation, it's about preparing for the inevitable injuries.

            I suppose they do it off the bench. Give everybody some game time .

            There is a bit of versatility in the backline as well. Plummer can play first or second, Rieko, centre or wing. BB, etc, etc. Loosies, we have lost a bit with two out.

            A balancing act, but winning is winning. I don't want to see that change.

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              Blues will need to rotate somewhat - 3rd straight derby and Highlanders off the bye.

              However I would not be throwing Christie into starting just yet. He went very well off the bench so i'd be looking at giving him more bench minutes this week but starting is a different prospect entirely.

              I'd be tempted to look at Tolai as bench hooker.

              taniwharugbyT Offline
              taniwharugbyT Offline
              taniwharugby
              wrote on last edited by
              #9

              @KiwiMurph said in Blues v Highlanders:

              3rd straight derby

              arent they all derbies now 😉

              1 Reply Last reply
              2
              • SnowyS Offline
                SnowyS Offline
                Snowy
                wrote on last edited by
                #10

                Oh, and Honey will be well pissed if we dis the 'Landers and play a B team.

                DuluthD 1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • SnowyS Snowy

                  Oh, and Honey will be well pissed if we dis the 'Landers and play a B team.

                  DuluthD Offline
                  DuluthD Offline
                  Duluth
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #11

                  @Snowy said in Blues v Highlanders:

                  Oh, and Honey will be well pissed if we dis the 'Landers and play a B team.

                  B team?? I suggested two changes.

                  IMO Barrett to 10 would strengthen the team

                  NepiaN SnowyS 2 Replies Last reply
                  1
                  • DuluthD Duluth

                    @Snowy said in Blues v Highlanders:

                    Oh, and Honey will be well pissed if we dis the 'Landers and play a B team.

                    B team?? I suggested two changes.

                    IMO Barrett to 10 would strengthen the team

                    NepiaN Offline
                    NepiaN Offline
                    Nepia
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #12

                    @Duluth said in Blues v Highlanders:

                    @Snowy said in Blues v Highlanders:

                    Oh, and Honey will be well pissed if we dis the 'Landers and play a B team.

                    B team?? I suggested two changes.

                    IMO Barrett to 10 would strengthen the team

                    TBH, I'm not sure it would. Black at 10 and Barrett at 15 with both having input in leading the team around the park seems to work pretty well.

                    M kiwiinmelbK 2 Replies Last reply
                    5
                    • DuluthD Offline
                      DuluthD Offline
                      Duluth
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #13

                      @Nepia

                      It has been working pretty well. I think Barrett will have more impact at flyhalf than he's had from fullback so far.
                      Even if you disagree it's certainly is a valid option for the 'A' side

                      NepiaN 1 Reply Last reply
                      3
                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        Blues will need to rotate somewhat - 3rd straight derby and Highlanders off the bye.

                        However I would not be throwing Christie into starting just yet. He went very well off the bench so i'd be looking at giving him more bench minutes this week but starting is a different prospect entirely.

                        I'd be tempted to look at Tolai as bench hooker.

                        DiceD Offline
                        DiceD Offline
                        Dice
                        wrote on last edited by Dice
                        #14

                        @KiwiMurph I wouldn't mind seeing Tolai get a shot off the bench. Bench hooker and the bench utility(23) would be the obvious spots we can rotate.

                        Maybe get a specialist loosehead back on the bench? Hodgman had to play 70 minutes last week, probably because they didn't trust Renata to play big minutes at loosehead, although in saying that, Renata's one scrum of the night went pretty well.

                        Pierce and GCT are probably interchangeable. Maybe give Pierce a chance to see if he can win the bench lock spot off GCT.

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        1
                        • DuluthD Duluth

                          @Nepia

                          It has been working pretty well. I think Barrett will have more impact at flyhalf than he's had from fullback so far.
                          Even if you disagree it's certainly is a valid option for the 'A' side

                          NepiaN Offline
                          NepiaN Offline
                          Nepia
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #15

                          @Duluth said in Blues v Highlanders:

                          Even if you disagree it's certainly is a valid option for the 'A' side

                          Of course, wasn't shutting it down as an option, just suggesting I don't think it would be better, mostly due to your 15 options.

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • NepiaN Nepia

                            @Duluth said in Blues v Highlanders:

                            @Snowy said in Blues v Highlanders:

                            Oh, and Honey will be well pissed if we dis the 'Landers and play a B team.

                            B team?? I suggested two changes.

                            IMO Barrett to 10 would strengthen the team

                            TBH, I'm not sure it would. Black at 10 and Barrett at 15 with both having input in leading the team around the park seems to work pretty well.

                            M Offline
                            M Offline
                            Machpants
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #16

                            @Nepia said in Blues v Highlanders:

                            @Duluth said in Blues v Highlanders:

                            @Snowy said in Blues v Highlanders:

                            Oh, and Honey will be well pissed if we dis the 'Landers and play a B team.

                            B team?? I suggested two changes.

                            IMO Barrett to 10 would strengthen the team

                            TBH, I'm not sure it would. Black at 10 and Barrett at 15 with both having input in leading the team around the park seems to work pretty well.

                            Blues structure improved in the last 20 wth Beaudy at ten, IMO. Not saying Beaudy 10 and ??? 15 would be an improvement, but Beaudy is a big step up over Black - no matter how well he's playing

                            SnowyS 1 Reply Last reply
                            3
                            • DuluthD Duluth

                              @Snowy said in Blues v Highlanders:

                              Oh, and Honey will be well pissed if we dis the 'Landers and play a B team.

                              B team?? I suggested two changes.

                              IMO Barrett to 10 would strengthen the team

                              SnowyS Offline
                              SnowyS Offline
                              Snowy
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #17

                              @Duluth said in Blues v Highlanders:

                              @Snowy said in Blues v Highlanders:

                              Oh, and Honey will be well pissed if we dis the 'Landers and play a B team.

                              B team?? I suggested two changes.

                              Didn't mean you.

                              Just that wholesale changes probably not a great idea and that if we make them Honey might get upset.

                              CrucialC 1 Reply Last reply
                              1
                              • M Machpants

                                @Nepia said in Blues v Highlanders:

                                @Duluth said in Blues v Highlanders:

                                @Snowy said in Blues v Highlanders:

                                Oh, and Honey will be well pissed if we dis the 'Landers and play a B team.

                                B team?? I suggested two changes.

                                IMO Barrett to 10 would strengthen the team

                                TBH, I'm not sure it would. Black at 10 and Barrett at 15 with both having input in leading the team around the park seems to work pretty well.

                                Blues structure improved in the last 20 wth Beaudy at ten, IMO. Not saying Beaudy 10 and ??? 15 would be an improvement, but Beaudy is a big step up over Black - no matter how well he's playing

                                SnowyS Offline
                                SnowyS Offline
                                Snowy
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #18

                                @Machpants said in Blues v Highlanders:

                                Blues structure improved in the last 20 wth Beaudy at ten, IMO. Not saying Beaudy 10 and ??? 15 would be an improvement, but Beaudy is a big step up over Black - no matter how well he's playing

                                The conundrum there is definitely who we play at 15 isn't as good as Beaudy either.

                                Perofeta was going O.K but injured. Duffie isn't a threat from the back really, so I understand why Leon is doing it. I've forgotten somebody else at 15...I think.

                                DuluthD DiceD 2 Replies Last reply
                                0
                                • SnowyS Snowy

                                  @Duluth said in Blues v Highlanders:

                                  @Snowy said in Blues v Highlanders:

                                  Oh, and Honey will be well pissed if we dis the 'Landers and play a B team.

                                  B team?? I suggested two changes.

                                  Didn't mean you.

                                  Just that wholesale changes probably not a great idea and that if we make them Honey might get upset.

                                  CrucialC Offline
                                  CrucialC Offline
                                  Crucial
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #19

                                  @Snowy said in Blues v Highlanders:

                                  @Duluth said in Blues v Highlanders:

                                  @Snowy said in Blues v Highlanders:

                                  Oh, and Honey will be well pissed if we dis the 'Landers and play a B team.

                                  B team?? I suggested two changes.

                                  Didn't mean you.

                                  Just that wholesale changes probably not a great idea and that if we make them Honey might get upset.

                                  It does raise the issue of depth though. This may not be as long a comp as the usual, but some teams have to deal with some tough runs in the draw.

                                  Saders get 4/4 pattern
                                  Blues get a 3/4/1
                                  Chiefs get 4/4
                                  Canes 2/4/2
                                  Highlanders 1/4/3

                                  Highlanders get Blues and Crusaders in consecutive weeks twice.

                                  Somewhere along the line, even discounting injuries, teams are going to have to give some players a rest

                                  SnowyS 1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • CrucialC Crucial

                                    @Snowy said in Blues v Highlanders:

                                    @Duluth said in Blues v Highlanders:

                                    @Snowy said in Blues v Highlanders:

                                    Oh, and Honey will be well pissed if we dis the 'Landers and play a B team.

                                    B team?? I suggested two changes.

                                    Didn't mean you.

                                    Just that wholesale changes probably not a great idea and that if we make them Honey might get upset.

                                    It does raise the issue of depth though. This may not be as long a comp as the usual, but some teams have to deal with some tough runs in the draw.

                                    Saders get 4/4 pattern
                                    Blues get a 3/4/1
                                    Chiefs get 4/4
                                    Canes 2/4/2
                                    Highlanders 1/4/3

                                    Highlanders get Blues and Crusaders in consecutive weeks twice.

                                    Somewhere along the line, even discounting injuries, teams are going to have to give some players a rest

                                    SnowyS Offline
                                    SnowyS Offline
                                    Snowy
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #20

                                    @Crucial 4 games then a week off too much for a pro rugby player?

                                    I know it has been bought up for EOYT after a long season but they have had a good break this time.

                                    BonesB CrucialC 2 Replies Last reply
                                    0
                                    • SnowyS Snowy

                                      @Crucial 4 games then a week off too much for a pro rugby player?

                                      I know it has been bought up for EOYT after a long season but they have had a good break this time.

                                      BonesB Offline
                                      BonesB Offline
                                      Bones
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #21

                                      @Snowy said in Blues v Highlanders:

                                      @Crucial 4 games then a week off too much for a pro rugby player?

                                      I know it has been bought up for EOYT after a long season but they have had a good break this time.

                                      That and it's not test rugby.

                                      You guys should play your B team eh. Hammer will have a plan.

                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      1
                                      • SnowyS Snowy

                                        @Crucial 4 games then a week off too much for a pro rugby player?

                                        I know it has been bought up for EOYT after a long season but they have had a good break this time.

                                        CrucialC Offline
                                        CrucialC Offline
                                        Crucial
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #22

                                        @Snowy said in Blues v Highlanders:

                                        @Crucial 4 games then a week off too much for a pro rugby player?

                                        I know it has been bought up for EOYT after a long season but they have had a good break this time.

                                        I think RWCs have shown us that you can't expect peak performances 4 games in a row.
                                        Some teams will be OK depending on who they play in that 4th week (eg Blues v Highlanders in week 😎 but it wouldn't surprise me if there aren't some tactical rests, especially from the Crusaders.

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • SnowyS Snowy

                                          @Machpants said in Blues v Highlanders:

                                          Blues structure improved in the last 20 wth Beaudy at ten, IMO. Not saying Beaudy 10 and ??? 15 would be an improvement, but Beaudy is a big step up over Black - no matter how well he's playing

                                          The conundrum there is definitely who we play at 15 isn't as good as Beaudy either.

                                          Perofeta was going O.K but injured. Duffie isn't a threat from the back really, so I understand why Leon is doing it. I've forgotten somebody else at 15...I think.

                                          DuluthD Offline
                                          DuluthD Offline
                                          Duluth
                                          wrote on last edited by Duluth
                                          #23

                                          @Snowy said in Blues v Highlanders:

                                          Perofeta was going O.K but injured. Duffie isn't a threat from the back really, so I understand why Leon is doing it. I've forgotten somebody else at 15...I think.

                                          Duffie has played around ~35mins over the last couple of weeks. I think he's gone well. My concern is the amount of minutes he has ever played at fullback

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          1
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Search
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Search