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AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?

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  • Billy TellB Billy Tell

    @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Crucial said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    Good defensive coaches pour over tapes to find these flaws and neutralise good players.

    No.

    That’s a pore error.

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    @Billy-Tell said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Crucial said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    Good defensive coaches pour over tapes to find these flaws and neutralise good players.

    No.

    That’s a pore error.

    Dog goes into an old western bar and says......

    ‘I’m looking for the man who shot my pore’

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    • CrucialC Crucial

      @DMX said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      Sparky's 23 to take on Whoever:

      Moody, Taylor, Laulala, Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Frizell, Cane (c), Sotutu, A. Smith, Mo'unga, C. Clarke, ALB, R. Ioane, Jordan, J. Barrett

      Coles, Hodgman, Ofa T, Strange or Grace, A. Savea, TJP, B. Barrett, Goodhue

      Nothing really screams Fozzie about this squad, I am still of the opinion he will be very conservative with first match
      Moody, Taylor, Laulala, Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Frizell, Cane (c), Savea, A. Smith, Mo'unga, Bridge, ALB, Goodhue, Reece, B. Barrett
      Coles, Hodgman, Ofa , Strange. Sotutu, TJP, J. Barrett, R. Iaone

      New blood will be introduced via the bench or through injury as usual.
      The locks will rotate on the pine and I can see Savea playing cover while the likes of Sotutu are given a start.
      Lomax and Hodgman will get some bench roles too.
      The starting changes should be ditching Bridge and Reece (who have been fizzers IMO) and establishing Clarke and Jordan.

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      @Crucial said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      @DMX said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      Sparky's 23 to take on Whoever:

      Moody, Taylor, Laulala, Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Frizell, Cane (c), Sotutu, A. Smith, Mo'unga, C. Clarke, ALB, R. Ioane, Jordan, J. Barrett

      Coles, Hodgman, Ofa T, Strange or Grace, A. Savea, TJP, B. Barrett, Goodhue

      Nothing really screams Fozzie about this squad, I am still of the opinion he will be very conservative with first match
      Moody, Taylor, Laulala, Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Frizell, Cane (c), Savea, A. Smith, Mo'unga, Bridge, ALB, Goodhue, Reece, B. Barrett
      Coles, Hodgman, Ofa , Strange. Sotutu, TJP, J. Barrett, R. Iaone

      New blood will be introduced via the bench or through injury as usual.
      The locks will rotate on the pine and I can see Savea playing cover while the likes of Sotutu are given a start.
      Lomax and Hodgman will get some bench roles too.
      The starting changes should be ditching Bridge and Reece (who have been fizzers IMO) and establishing Clarke and Jordan.

      First, I hope this is the case, but based on Plum's comments yesterday I think they'll start conservatively with Ardie at 8 and then look to bring in Hoskins after that (maybe in test 2, 3 or 4 depending upon how Ardie goes). To my mind, a lot depends upon how Frizell / Akira go at 6. If they're not doing the business then we may be forced to play Ardie there, which leaves us no choice but to throw Hoskins in.

      Second, couldn't agree more. Clarke and Jordan could not have been more dynamic the other day when compared to what we've had to our up with Reece and Carthorse Mark II.

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      • NepiaN Nepia

        @MN5 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

        @Gunner said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

        @nzzp @Crucial Bridge = Ralph v 2.0

        I'll be pissed if they go with the safe boring option. Clarke should be the starter every day of the week ending in a y.

        Well seeing as tests are often on a Satdee or a Sundee I can see them going with Bridge on occasions.

        So he'll get the odd Bledisloe but nothing else.

        My preferred back three are Barrett (the good one), Rieko and Clarke, with Goodhue and ALB in the midfield.

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        @Nepia said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

        @MN5 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

        @Gunner said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

        @nzzp @Crucial Bridge = Ralph v 2.0

        I'll be pissed if they go with the safe boring option. Clarke should be the starter every day of the week ending in a y.

        Well seeing as tests are often on a Satdee or a Sundee I can see them going with Bridge on occasions.

        So he'll get the odd Bledisloe but nothing else.

        My preferred back three are Barrett (the good one), Rieko and Clarke, with Goodhue and ALB in the midfield.

        How's that going to happen - Clarke and Rieko both play left wing?

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        • J junior

          @Nepia said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          @MN5 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          @Gunner said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          @nzzp @Crucial Bridge = Ralph v 2.0

          I'll be pissed if they go with the safe boring option. Clarke should be the starter every day of the week ending in a y.

          Well seeing as tests are often on a Satdee or a Sundee I can see them going with Bridge on occasions.

          So he'll get the odd Bledisloe but nothing else.

          My preferred back three are Barrett (the good one), Rieko and Clarke, with Goodhue and ALB in the midfield.

          How's that going to happen - Clarke and Rieko both play left wing?

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          @junior said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          @Nepia said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          @MN5 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          @Gunner said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          @nzzp @Crucial Bridge = Ralph v 2.0

          I'll be pissed if they go with the safe boring option. Clarke should be the starter every day of the week ending in a y.

          Well seeing as tests are often on a Satdee or a Sundee I can see them going with Bridge on occasions.

          So he'll get the odd Bledisloe but nothing else.

          My preferred back three are Barrett (the good one), Rieko and Clarke, with Goodhue and ALB in the midfield.

          How's that going to happen - Clarke and Rieko both play left wing?

          I didn't know there was a rule that wings are only ever allowed to play one side. 😉

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          • J junior

            @Nepia said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

            @MN5 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

            @Gunner said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

            @nzzp @Crucial Bridge = Ralph v 2.0

            I'll be pissed if they go with the safe boring option. Clarke should be the starter every day of the week ending in a y.

            Well seeing as tests are often on a Satdee or a Sundee I can see them going with Bridge on occasions.

            So he'll get the odd Bledisloe but nothing else.

            My preferred back three are Barrett (the good one), Rieko and Clarke, with Goodhue and ALB in the midfield.

            How's that going to happen - Clarke and Rieko both play left wing?

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            @junior both have played right wing before.

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              One thing that people seem to missing in the debate about whether Rieko should be a centre / wing or a wing / centre, is that the midfield mix currently chosen. There's not specialist 12 there, which suggests to me that ALB (at least) and Goodhue (probably) may be seen as primarily 12s for this current squad and Rieko and Ennor as primarily 13s.

              What this means for the match day squad, I'm not sure, but the selectors may be leaning towards the ALB-Ioane or Goodhue-Ennor midfield combinations rather than the one that started last year's RWC semi (which they've seen and which I think we can all agree was a bit meh).

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              • NepiaN Nepia

                @junior said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                @Nepia said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                @MN5 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                @Gunner said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                @nzzp @Crucial Bridge = Ralph v 2.0

                I'll be pissed if they go with the safe boring option. Clarke should be the starter every day of the week ending in a y.

                Well seeing as tests are often on a Satdee or a Sundee I can see them going with Bridge on occasions.

                So he'll get the odd Bledisloe but nothing else.

                My preferred back three are Barrett (the good one), Rieko and Clarke, with Goodhue and ALB in the midfield.

                How's that going to happen - Clarke and Rieko both play left wing?

                I didn't know there was a rule that wings are only ever allowed to play one side. 😉

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                @Nepia said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                @junior said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                @Nepia said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                @MN5 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                @Gunner said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                @nzzp @Crucial Bridge = Ralph v 2.0

                I'll be pissed if they go with the safe boring option. Clarke should be the starter every day of the week ending in a y.

                Well seeing as tests are often on a Satdee or a Sundee I can see them going with Bridge on occasions.

                So he'll get the odd Bledisloe but nothing else.

                My preferred back three are Barrett (the good one), Rieko and Clarke, with Goodhue and ALB in the midfield.

                How's that going to happen - Clarke and Rieko both play left wing?

                I didn't know there was a rule that wings are only ever allowed to play one side. 😉

                You must have missed the comments yesterday about picking specialists.

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                  Sooo....why the fuck can't Ennor play 12? He's not exactly busting down doors at 13 and Goodhue is suffering as a result...

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    Sooo....why the fuck can't Ennor play 12? He's not exactly busting down doors at 13 and Goodhue is suffering as a result...

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                    @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    Sooo....why the fuck can't Ennor play 12? He's not exactly busting down doors at 13 and Goodhue is suffering as a result...

                    I don't know, TBH. Maybe he's always played 13 or wing and they feel a shift in one spot is too much at this relatively early stage of his career? To me, he doesn't look like a 12 but, then again, he doesn't look like a 13 (yet) either.

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                      Ardie at 8? Yuck

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        Ardie at 8? Yuck

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                        @mariner4life said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        Ardie at 8? Yuck

                        Yep. That's particularly concerning when we've got two big, quick and skilful guys who are specialists in that position in the squad.

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                          @mariner4life said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          Ardie at 8? Yuck

                          Yep. That's particularly concerning when we've got two big, quick and skilful guys who are specialists in that position in the squad.

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                          @junior said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          @mariner4life said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          Ardie at 8? Yuck

                          Yep. That's particularly concerning when we've got two big, quick and skilful guys who are specialists in that position in the squad.

                          He's a fucking 7.

                          Talk about ignoring lessons

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                            Last Saturday, Laulala was a different beast. During the SRA, he was underwhelming, to say the least. He has cemented a starting spot IMO, which was seriously threatened after his RWC semi-final.

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                            • sharkS shark

                              For what it's worth, my 23:

                              Moody Ofa T
                              Taylor Coles
                              Laulala Lomax
                              Whitelock
                              Tuipolutu Strange
                              Frizzel
                              Savea Cane
                              Sotutu

                              Smith Perenara
                              Mo'unga
                              ALB
                              Goodhue
                              Clarke R Ioane
                              Jordan J Barrett
                              B Barrett

                              Yeah I know there no chance Savea will usurp Fosters' named skipper, but it's the 23 I'd select.

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                              @shark said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              For what it's worth, my 23:

                              Moody Ofa T

                              With the 6 props named I don't think you will see much of Ofa at LH again. Cron and Hansen seemed to want to move him there with varying results.

                              Late in the North-South game when Ofa returned to play LH with Ta'avao at TH and Scrafton at lock, the NI scrum was going backwards.

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                              • J junior

                                One thing that people seem to missing in the debate about whether Rieko should be a centre / wing or a wing / centre, is that the midfield mix currently chosen. There's not specialist 12 there, which suggests to me that ALB (at least) and Goodhue (probably) may be seen as primarily 12s for this current squad and Rieko and Ennor as primarily 13s.

                                What this means for the match day squad, I'm not sure, but the selectors may be leaning towards the ALB-Ioane or Goodhue-Ennor midfield combinations rather than the one that started last year's RWC semi (which they've seen and which I think we can all agree was a bit meh).

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                                @junior said in [AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?] ALB-Ioane or Goodhue-Ennor midfield

                                Fuck no.
                                That got a real safe white boy feel about about it.

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                                  Not sure if this would happen but I would love to see this backline:
                                  9. Smith 10. Mo’unga 11. Ioane 12. J Barrett 13. Goodhue 14. Jordan 15. B Barrett
                                  21. Perenara 22. McKenzie 23. Leinert-Brown

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                                    @junior said in [AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?] ALB-Ioane or Goodhue-Ennor midfield

                                    Fuck no.
                                    That got a real safe white boy feel about about it.

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                                    @Frank said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                    That got a real safe white boy feel about about it.

                                    Not a fan of TJP-BBarrett-Goodhue-Ennor-Bridge-JBarrett-DMac? The Kleenex backline

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                                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                      Not sure if this would happen but I would love to see this backline:
                                      9. Smith 10. Mo’unga 11. Ioane 12. J Barrett 13. Goodhue 14. Jordan 15. B Barrett
                                      21. Perenara 22. McKenzie 23. Leinert-Brown

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                                      @Canes4life JBarrett at 12 suddenly seems a whole lot more attractive doesn't it. Size and goalkicking... could be good

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                                      • J junior

                                        @Crucial said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        @DMX said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        Sparky's 23 to take on Whoever:

                                        Moody, Taylor, Laulala, Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Frizell, Cane (c), Sotutu, A. Smith, Mo'unga, C. Clarke, ALB, R. Ioane, Jordan, J. Barrett

                                        Coles, Hodgman, Ofa T, Strange or Grace, A. Savea, TJP, B. Barrett, Goodhue

                                        Nothing really screams Fozzie about this squad, I am still of the opinion he will be very conservative with first match
                                        Moody, Taylor, Laulala, Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Frizell, Cane (c), Savea, A. Smith, Mo'unga, Bridge, ALB, Goodhue, Reece, B. Barrett
                                        Coles, Hodgman, Ofa , Strange. Sotutu, TJP, J. Barrett, R. Iaone

                                        New blood will be introduced via the bench or through injury as usual.
                                        The locks will rotate on the pine and I can see Savea playing cover while the likes of Sotutu are given a start.
                                        Lomax and Hodgman will get some bench roles too.
                                        The starting changes should be ditching Bridge and Reece (who have been fizzers IMO) and establishing Clarke and Jordan.

                                        First, I hope this is the case, but based on Plum's comments yesterday I think they'll start conservatively with Ardie at 8 and then look to bring in Hoskins after that (maybe in test 2, 3 or 4 depending upon how Ardie goes). To my mind, a lot depends upon how Frizell / Akira go at 6. If they're not doing the business then we may be forced to play Ardie there, which leaves us no choice but to throw Hoskins in.

                                        Second, couldn't agree more. Clarke and Jordan could not have been more dynamic the other day when compared to what we've had to our up with Reece and Carthorse Mark II.

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                                        @junior said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        Second, couldn't agree more. Clarke and Jordan could not have been more dynamic the other day when compared to what we've had to our up with Reece and Carthorse Mark II.

                                        What a shit way to talk about a player.

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          @junior said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          Second, couldn't agree more. Clarke and Jordan could not have been more dynamic the other day when compared to what we've had to our up with Reece and Carthorse Mark II.

                                          What a shit way to talk about a player.

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                                          @Stargazer said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          @junior said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          Second, couldn't agree more. Clarke and Jordan could not have been more dynamic the other day when compared to what we've had to our up with Reece and Carthorse Mark II.

                                          What a shit way to talk about a player.

                                          Especially if he's from the Crusdaers.

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