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AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?

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  • A akan004

    @Machpants said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    Well I reckon Ozzies would, sat this moment in time, be fuck loads better then most Nations. They've actually played some rugby, recently

    I think the wobs are going to be a very good team in a couple of years. They have a lot of young talented players that Rennie will mould into quality Test players in time.

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    @akan004 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Machpants said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    Well I reckon Ozzies would, sat this moment in time, be fuck loads better then most Nations. They've actually played some rugby, recently

    I think the wobs are going to be a very good team in a couple of years. They have a lot of young talented players that Rennie will mould into quality Test players in time.

    You may be right , but I remember those words being spoken about Deans

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      @Snowy said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      We are actually spoiled for choice and until some of these guys get a go at the top level we won't know.
      Frizell has been impressive, along with Kirifi.

      We sure are! It's just a shame the blues players have no faults eh? The others can't get close! Not that you have any bias...

      Kirifi is extremely lucky Gibson is injured.

      P.S. No-one has had any doubts about Paps pace in a straight line on a break. Pretty sure if he held his pace until the tryline in the weekend the stand behind would have been in with a chance of complete destruction though.

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      @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      @Snowy said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      We are actually spoiled for choice and until some of these guys get a go at the top level we won't know.
      Frizell has been impressive, along with Kirifi.

      We sure are! It's just a shame the blues players have no faults eh? The others can't get close! Not that you have any bias...

      Kirifi is extremely lucky Gibson is injured.

      P.S. No-one has had any doubts about Paps pace in a straight line on a break. Pretty sure if he held his pace until the tryline in the weekend the stand behind would have been in with a chance of complete destruction though.

      I certainly didn't say the Blues players have no faults. I did say I don't care where they come from and that I just want the best players in rep teams. Obviously some people want to see their own team's players get higher honours, and have trouble grasping the concept, but I really don't give a shit where they are from. If the entire Northland side were better than everybody in the AKL side then the Blues should be the entire Northland side.

      As for Paps I have already said that is a bit different to foot speed but he does seem to be quick for a big guy.

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      • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

        @akan004 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

        @Machpants said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

        Well I reckon Ozzies would, sat this moment in time, be fuck loads better then most Nations. They've actually played some rugby, recently

        I think the wobs are going to be a very good team in a couple of years. They have a lot of young talented players that Rennie will mould into quality Test players in time.

        You may be right , but I remember those words being spoken about Deans

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        @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

        @akan004 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

        @Machpants said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

        Well I reckon Ozzies would, sat this moment in time, be fuck loads better then most Nations. They've actually played some rugby, recently

        I think the wobs are going to be a very good team in a couple of years. They have a lot of young talented players that Rennie will mould into quality Test players in time.

        You may be right , but I remember those words being spoken about Deans

        Difference being that Rennie has had to build teams up from nearly every level he's coached, whereas Deans Deans inherited a Ferrari and kept it going fast (not sure why I chose a car metaphor, I don't know anything about them).

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        • NepiaN Nepia

          @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          @akan004 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          @Machpants said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          Well I reckon Ozzies would, sat this moment in time, be fuck loads better then most Nations. They've actually played some rugby, recently

          I think the wobs are going to be a very good team in a couple of years. They have a lot of young talented players that Rennie will mould into quality Test players in time.

          You may be right , but I remember those words being spoken about Deans

          Difference being that Rennie has had to build teams up from nearly every level he's coached, whereas Deans Deans inherited a Ferrari and kept it going fast (not sure why I chose a car metaphor, I don't know anything about them).

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          @Nepia said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          @akan004 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          @Machpants said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          Well I reckon Ozzies would, sat this moment in time, be fuck loads better then most Nations. They've actually played some rugby, recently

          I think the wobs are going to be a very good team in a couple of years. They have a lot of young talented players that Rennie will mould into quality Test players in time.

          You may be right , but I remember those words being spoken about Deans

          Difference being that Rennie has had to build teams up from nearly every level he's coached, whereas Deans Deans inherited a Ferrari and kept it going fast (not sure why I chose a car metaphor, I don't know anything about them).

          That's a good car metaphor. Any Ferrari old enough to be inherited would ultimately break down and require extensive work to return it to its former glory.

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          • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

            @akan004 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

            @Machpants said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

            Well I reckon Ozzies would, sat this moment in time, be fuck loads better then most Nations. They've actually played some rugby, recently

            I think the wobs are going to be a very good team in a couple of years. They have a lot of young talented players that Rennie will mould into quality Test players in time.

            You may be right , but I remember those words being spoken about Deans

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            @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

            @akan004 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

            @Machpants said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

            Well I reckon Ozzies would, sat this moment in time, be fuck loads better then most Nations. They've actually played some rugby, recently

            I think the wobs are going to be a very good team in a couple of years. They have a lot of young talented players that Rennie will mould into quality Test players in time.

            You may be right , but I remember those words being spoken about Deans

            I think the key difference is this time around most of their up and coming talent is up front. They have always had decent backs but average packs. I think this will change with the youngsters they have atm.

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            • NepiaN Nepia

              @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

              @akan004 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

              @Machpants said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

              Well I reckon Ozzies would, sat this moment in time, be fuck loads better then most Nations. They've actually played some rugby, recently

              I think the wobs are going to be a very good team in a couple of years. They have a lot of young talented players that Rennie will mould into quality Test players in time.

              You may be right , but I remember those words being spoken about Deans

              Difference being that Rennie has had to build teams up from nearly every level he's coached, whereas Deans Deans inherited a Ferrari and kept it going fast (not sure why I chose a car metaphor, I don't know anything about them).

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              @Nepia said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

              @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

              @akan004 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

              @Machpants said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

              Well I reckon Ozzies would, sat this moment in time, be fuck loads better then most Nations. They've actually played some rugby, recently

              I think the wobs are going to be a very good team in a couple of years. They have a lot of young talented players that Rennie will mould into quality Test players in time.

              You may be right , but I remember those words being spoken about Deans

              Difference being that Rennie has had to build teams up from nearly every level he's coached, whereas Deans Deans inherited a Ferrari and kept it going fast (not sure why I chose a car metaphor, I don't know anything about them).

              Fair enough , out of interest ,

              What Car has Rennie inherited ?

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              • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                @Nepia said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                @akan004 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                @Machpants said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                Well I reckon Ozzies would, sat this moment in time, be fuck loads better then most Nations. They've actually played some rugby, recently

                I think the wobs are going to be a very good team in a couple of years. They have a lot of young talented players that Rennie will mould into quality Test players in time.

                You may be right , but I remember those words being spoken about Deans

                Difference being that Rennie has had to build teams up from nearly every level he's coached, whereas Deans Deans inherited a Ferrari and kept it going fast (not sure why I chose a car metaphor, I don't know anything about them).

                Fair enough , out of interest ,

                What Car has Rennie inherited ?

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                @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                @Nepia said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                @akan004 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                @Machpants said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                Well I reckon Ozzies would, sat this moment in time, be fuck loads better then most Nations. They've actually played some rugby, recently

                I think the wobs are going to be a very good team in a couple of years. They have a lot of young talented players that Rennie will mould into quality Test players in time.

                You may be right , but I remember those words being spoken about Deans

                Difference being that Rennie has had to build teams up from nearly every level he's coached, whereas Deans Deans inherited a Ferrari and kept it going fast (not sure why I chose a car metaphor, I don't know anything about them).

                Fair enough , out of interest ,

                What Car has Rennie inherited ?

                Crap, cars really aren't my things ... um what kind of car looks flash but has a shit engine?

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                • A akan004

                  @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                  @akan004 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                  @Machpants said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                  Well I reckon Ozzies would, sat this moment in time, be fuck loads better then most Nations. They've actually played some rugby, recently

                  I think the wobs are going to be a very good team in a couple of years. They have a lot of young talented players that Rennie will mould into quality Test players in time.

                  You may be right , but I remember those words being spoken about Deans

                  I think the key difference is this time around most of their up and coming talent is up front. They have always had decent backs but average packs. I think this will change with the youngsters they have atm.

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                  @akan004 they have had decent packs before. The challenge has been keeping them.

                  The front row used to be decent in the scrum, and reasonable around the paddock. Adam Coleman was a good lock, but didn't kick on. Pooper + Fardy is a good backrow (if short) - but Fardy disappeared overseas I beleive.

                  I'm sure @nta will comment

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                  • nzzpN nzzp

                    @akan004 they have had decent packs before. The challenge has been keeping them.

                    The front row used to be decent in the scrum, and reasonable around the paddock. Adam Coleman was a good lock, but didn't kick on. Pooper + Fardy is a good backrow (if short) - but Fardy disappeared overseas I beleive.

                    I'm sure @nta will comment

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                    @nzzp they also havent had the backrow balance right since Pocock has been about as they want him there despite him being the cause of the unbalancedness

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      @nzzp they also havent had the backrow balance right since Pocock has been about as they want him there despite him being the cause of the unbalancedness

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                      @taniwharugby said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                      @nzzp they also havent had the backrow balance right since Pocock has been about as they want him there despite him being the cause of the unbalancedness

                      yep, absolutely.

                      But unbalanced isn't 'bad', just 'not awesome'.

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                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                        @nzzp they also havent had the backrow balance right since Pocock has been about as they want him there despite him being the cause of the unbalancedness

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                        @taniwharugby said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        @nzzp they also havent had the backrow balance right since Pocock has been about as they want him there despite him being the cause of the unbalancedness

                        They also haven't had a great deal of talent in the 6/8 jerseys either.

                        This season that is much different - they seem stacked with talent in those positions now (if young/unproven at test level - but still)

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                        • nzzpN nzzp

                          @akan004 they have had decent packs before. The challenge has been keeping them.

                          The front row used to be decent in the scrum, and reasonable around the paddock. Adam Coleman was a good lock, but didn't kick on. Pooper + Fardy is a good backrow (if short) - but Fardy disappeared overseas I beleive.

                          I'm sure @nta will comment

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                          @nzzp said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          I'm sure @nta will comment

                          Meh. Haven't seen anything bar highlights of games.

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                            The AB YouTube channel has put up videos players in their next generation series. So far they have put up MMT, Flanders, Jordan, Clarke, PUJ, Sotutu, Boshier and Christie.

                            I doubt they have any inside source but you'd think most of these guys will be capped sooner or later.

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                              The AB YouTube channel has put up videos players in their next generation series. So far they have put up MMT, Flanders, Jordan, Clarke, PUJ, Sotutu, Boshier and Christie.

                              I doubt they have any inside source but you'd think most of these guys will be capped sooner or later.

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                              @mofitzy_ I'm still unsure on Christie but the rest I'd say most likely.

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                                @nzzp they also havent had the backrow balance right since Pocock has been about as they want him there despite him being the cause of the unbalancedness

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                                @taniwharugby said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                @nzzp they also havent had the backrow balance right since Pocock has been about as they want him there despite him being the cause of the unbalancedness

                                Trouble with Pocock is that once he bulked up (a LOT) his top end dwindled to Franks pace. Hard to cover in loose trio.

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                                  @nzzp said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  I'm sure @nta will comment

                                  Meh. Haven't seen anything bar highlights of games.

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                                  @NTA said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  @nzzp said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  I'm sure @nta will comment

                                  Meh. Haven't seen anything bar highlights of games.

                                  Prefer foreign cuisine?!

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                                    @mofitzy_ I'm still unsure on Christie but the rest I'd say most likely.

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                                    Shame Flanders hasn't got more game time, I like what I've seen of him so far.

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                                      @akan004 they have had decent packs before. The challenge has been keeping them.

                                      The front row used to be decent in the scrum, and reasonable around the paddock. Adam Coleman was a good lock, but didn't kick on. Pooper + Fardy is a good backrow (if short) - but Fardy disappeared overseas I beleive.

                                      I'm sure @nta will comment

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                                      @nzzp said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      @akan004 they have had decent packs before. The challenge has been keeping them.

                                      The front row used to be decent in the scrum, and reasonable around the paddock. Adam Coleman was a good lock, but didn't kick on. Pooper + Fardy is a good backrow (if short) - but Fardy disappeared overseas I beleive.

                                      I'm sure @nta will comment

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                                      Handy pack.

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                                        @Yeetyaah
                                        Shame Flanders hasn't got more game time, I like what I've seen of him so far.

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                                        @mofitzy_ said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        @Yeetyaah
                                        Shame Flanders hasn't got more game time, I like what I've seen of him so far.

                                        I missed him!

                                        5/6? Competition there from Robinson/Grace and even Fifita?

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                                          @mofitzy_ said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          @Yeetyaah
                                          Shame Flanders hasn't got more game time, I like what I've seen of him so far.

                                          I missed him!

                                          5/6? Competition there from Robinson/Grace and even Fifita?

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                                          @pakman Flanders is a 8/6, although in his first Mitre 10 Cup season they used him as a replacement lock a few times. Not last year, though.

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