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AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?

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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    NZ U20 locks of the past 5 years (includes lock/loosies)

    Height/weight info taken from the player's most recent SR franchise profile or, in the absence of that, his most recent provincial profile

    Player Year in NZ U20 current NPC province current SR franchise Height/weight
    Dunshea, Mitchell 2015 Canterbury Crusaders 1.97m/115kg
    Cridge, Geoff 2015 Hawke's Bay ex-Hurricanes 2.00m/114kg
    Goodhue, Josh 2015 Northland Blues 1.99m/115kg
    Blackwell, James 2015 Wellington Hurricanes 1.90m/107kg
    Strange, Quinten 2016 Ta$man Crusaders 1.99m/116kg
    Dalzell, Hamish 2016 Auckland ex-Crusaders 2.01m/118kg
    Walker-Leawere, Isaia 2016, 2017 Hawke's Bay Hurricanes 1.97m/122kg
    Hoeata, Fin 2016 Taranaki ex-Chiefs 1.96m/105kg*
    Pierce, Jacob 2017 North Harbour Blues 2.01m/106kg
    Caird, Sam 2017 Northland 2.02m/116kg*
    Slade, Samuel 2017 Counties M. 1.94m/111kg**
    McWhannell, Laghlan 2018 Waikato? Chiefs 1.98m/114kg
    Tucker, Will 2018 Otago Highlanders 2.02m/111kg**
    Grace, Cullen 2019 Canterbury Crusaders 1.93m/107kg
    Plumtree, Taine 2019 Wellington ?
    Vaa'i, Tupou 2019 Taranaki Chiefs 1.98m/118kg
    Ah Kuoi, Naitoa 2019*** Wellington Chiefs 1.96m/116kg

    *weight according to Wikipedia
    **height/weight according to Rugbypass
    ***not selected for JWC, only Oceania U20 Championship

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    #928

    @Stargazer Pierce at 106kg might be a mistake from the Blues. Harbour had him at 112kg last year, and he looked pretty solid, even next to Tuipulotu, when I saw him in Newmarket in July.

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    • TimT Tim

      @Stargazer Pierce at 106kg might be a mistake from the Blues. Harbour had him at 112kg last year, and he looked pretty solid, even next to Tuipulotu, when I saw him in Newmarket in July.

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      @Tim said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      @Stargazer Pierce at 106kg might be a mistake from the Blues. Harbour had him at 112kg last year, and he looked pretty solid, even next to Tuipulotu, when I saw in Newmarket in July.

      The Super Rugby teams very rarely update player profiles. The listed weight tends to be the weight the player joined the team at

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        Yes, he is pretty big and renowned for his strength in the scrums. That wouldn't be the case if he was weighing 106 kg.

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          What is it that people see in Strange? I'm pretty unconvinced eh.

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          • BonesB Bones

            What is it that people see in Strange? I'm pretty unconvinced eh.

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            @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

            What is it that people see in Strange? I'm pretty unconvinced eh.

            At least I've heard of him, unlike the other lock!

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            • BonesB Bones

              What is it that people see in Strange? I'm pretty unconvinced eh.

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              @Bones Agreed. Dunshea plays most of the mins in SR and made a good fist of things, yet somehow the overhyped Strange whose best contribution was throwing a tantrum when his team was losing and got his marching orders for, gets the gig instead.

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              • TimT Tim

                @Stargazer Pierce at 106kg might be a mistake from the Blues. Harbour had him at 112kg last year, and he looked pretty solid, even next to Tuipulotu, when I saw him in Newmarket in July.

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                akan004
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                @Tim Wiki has him at 121 kgs, Tim. Sounds about right.

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                • BonesB Bones

                  What is it that people see in Strange? I'm pretty unconvinced eh.

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                  @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                  What is it that people see in Strange? I'm pretty unconvinced eh.

                  I had to google images just to know what he looks like.

                  Bro, does he even lift ?

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                  • K kidcalder

                    I think in a few years (not yet) Caleb Clarke will follow his old man into the 12 jersey, his balance and skillset seems a good fit to me

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                    @kidcalder said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    I think in a few years (not yet) Caleb Clarke will follow his old man into the 12 jersey, his balance and skillset seems a good fit to me

                    Not sure about passing (Nonu precedent), but running style seems perfect.

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                      Can't really argue with forward selections.

                      Aumua needs to learn to throw.

                      Lomax and Hodgman form justifes third stringer selection.

                      Tyro locks reflect injuries. From full deck would have been Barrett and Parkinson for me.

                      Loosies reflect focus on go forward. Hunt/Boshier/Christie lost out from that decision.

                      In backs all the usual suspects.

                      Thought PUV might have done enough. I prefer ALB 12/Goodhue 13 to vice versa.

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        What is it that people see in Strange? I'm pretty unconvinced eh.

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                        @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        What is it that people see in Strange? I'm pretty unconvinced eh.

                        Stargazer will tell you.

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                        • MN5M MN5

                          @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          What is it that people see in Strange? I'm pretty unconvinced eh.

                          I had to google images just to know what he looks like.

                          Bro, does he even lift ?

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                          @MN5 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          What is it that people see in Strange? I'm pretty unconvinced eh.

                          I had to google images just to know what he looks like.

                          Bro, does he even lift ?

                          Mr Strange = The New Samonsite.

                          He has played 32 times for the Crusaders. Been part of their Super Squad since 2017 and has won four titles. Quietly moved above Luke Romano in the Crusader Lock pecking order. Does his job well. Tackles. Carries a bit. Calls lineout moves sometimes.

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                          • sparkyS sparky

                            @MN5 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            What is it that people see in Strange? I'm pretty unconvinced eh.

                            I had to google images just to know what he looks like.

                            Bro, does he even lift ?

                            Mr Strange = The New Samonsite.

                            He has played 32 times for the Crusaders. Been part of their Super Squad since 2017 and has won four titles. Quietly moved above Luke Romano in the Crusader Lock pecking order. Does his job well. Tackles. Carries a bit. Calls lineout moves sometimes.

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                            @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            @MN5 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            What is it that people see in Strange? I'm pretty unconvinced eh.

                            I had to google images just to know what he looks like.

                            Bro, does he even lift ?

                            Mr Strange = The New Samonsite.

                            He has played 32 times for the Crusaders. Been part of their Super Squad since 2017 and has won four titles. Quietly moved above Luke Romeo in the Crusader Lock pecking order. Does his job well. Tackles. Carries a bit. Calls lineout moved sometimes.

                            Future AB captain material right there....

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                            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                              @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              @MN5 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              What is it that people see in Strange? I'm pretty unconvinced eh.

                              I had to google images just to know what he looks like.

                              Bro, does he even lift ?

                              Mr Strange = The New Samonsite.

                              He has played 32 times for the Crusaders. Been part of their Super Squad since 2017 and has won four titles. Quietly moved above Luke Romeo in the Crusader Lock pecking order. Does his job well. Tackles. Carries a bit. Calls lineout moved sometimes.

                              Future AB captain material right there....

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                              @ACT-Crusader You can imagine this squad all getting on the Team Bus and some of the Blues guys looking at Quinten Strange and thinking "Who's that?"

                              He has won a crazy amount of silverware for a guy who is 24.

                              I assume he is the first AB named Quinten.

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                                @ACT-Crusader You can imagine this squad all getting on the Team Bus and some of the Blues guys looking at Quinten Strange and thinking "Who's that?"

                                He has won a crazy amount of silverware for a guy who is 24.

                                I assume he is the first AB named Quinten.

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                                ACT Crusader
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                                @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                @ACT-Crusader You can imagine this squad all getting on the Team Bus and some of the Blues guys looking at Quinten Strange and thinking "Who's that?"

                                He has won a crazy amount of silverware for a guy who is 24.

                                I assume he is the first AB named Quinten.

                                I’d imagine some of the Crusaders players asking Clarke, “you made the ABs and you didn’t blonde your hair?”

                                😎

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                                  Bones
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                                  Likewise I'm unconvinced on Ennor as a centre. Was a great winger but doesn't appear to be a standout centre, "all the tools" though so hopefully can prove me wrong. Would be great to have two swift centres to choose from.

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                                    Kirwan
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                                    https://reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/inh2rq/tupou_vaai_telling_his_family_he_made_the_all/

                                    Love seeing what it means to the players and their families

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      Likewise I'm unconvinced on Ennor as a centre. Was a great winger but doesn't appear to be a standout centre, "all the tools" though so hopefully can prove me wrong. Would be great to have two swift centres to choose from.

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                                      @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      Likewise I'm unconvinced on Ennor as a centre. Was a great winger but doesn't appear to be a standout centre, "all the tools" though so hopefully can prove me wrong. Would be great to have two swift centres to choose from.

                                      I think he has a fair bit to develop as a centre, but I see a few things in his game that remind me of a former SW centre.

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                                        https://reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/inh2rq/tupou_vaai_telling_his_family_he_made_the_all/

                                        Love seeing what it means to the players and their families

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                                        ACT Crusader
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                                        @Kirwan said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        https://reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/inh2rq/tupou_vaai_telling_his_family_he_made_the_all/

                                        Love seeing what it means to the players and their families

                                        O for awesome. Bit of a lump in the old throat watching that.
                                        Amazing rise for the young fella.

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                                        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                          @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          Likewise I'm unconvinced on Ennor as a centre. Was a great winger but doesn't appear to be a standout centre, "all the tools" though so hopefully can prove me wrong. Would be great to have two swift centres to choose from.

                                          I think he has a fair bit to develop as a centre, but I see a few things in his game that remind me of a former SW centre.

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                                          Bones
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                                          @ACT-Crusader SW?

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