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  • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

    @Milk said in UFC:

    @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

    Quite possibly, but where the fuck were his team to manage the situation?

    Yeah, spot on. I actually found the above scene really uncomfortable to watch and part of the reason is how isolated he is. Apparently Dana White was trying to convince Cormier he was knocked out and it wasn't until Cormier saw that footage that everything started to click into place for him. And this is the result:

    Rogan has since apologised for interviewing him as he is no longer supposed to interview fighters who have been knocked out.

    DC's statement:
    https://www.instagram.com/p/BXMcRjEhW6j/

    First off, thank you all for the kind words. I have felt the support. Congratulations to Jon Jones and his team. They did a phenomenal job and got the victory. Also, to Big John McCarthy, I would like to apologize for acting up with you. I am thankful for the time you gave me to try and defend myself and stay in the fight. You are the best in the business for a reason. I also wanna thank my team and my coaches. I love you all from the bottom of my heart. Your time and energy is greatly appreciated. You guys did a wonderful job, I was ready. It's a fist fight and things happen. Dana White and the @ufc, thank you for being the premiere organization in all of MMA. Again, congrats to Team Jones and JacksonWink. Love you all. I'll see you soon. DC

    Big John's response:
    https://i.redd.it/xncsud95hwcz.jpg

    Great to see all round.

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    Yeah, um, about that main event... Jones failed a steroid test...

    So I guess DC gets the title back and Jones gets banned for four years because it's his second failed test?

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      #301

      FFS the LHW division is a mess now

      Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

      Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

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      • DuluthD Duluth

        FFS the LHW division is a mess now

        Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

        Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

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        MiketheSnow
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        @Duluth said in UFC:

        FFS the LHW division is a mess now

        Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

        Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

        What an idiot.

        But possibly shows that Jones didn't feel he could beat DC clean.

        Ban him for life.

        There are some good LH coming through.

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          raznomore
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          He'll end up in Bellator in no time.

          He was my guy, based purely on ability, but what an utter piston wristed gibbon. That speech at the end of the fight is so slimey now. I actually thought he showed some class for once in his life.

          Cormier probably Knew and so did White.

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          • MilkM Offline
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            Classy response from DC. IMO smart to withhold his opinion until we know more:

            “It's hard to find words to describe how I'm feeling right now,” Cormier said. “I'm disappointed to hear the news. It's very emotional.
            “We as athletes are entitled to due process, and I will refrain from saying much more until I know exactly what happened.
            “In my mind, on July 29, I competed and I lost. I thought Jon Jones was the better man that day. I don't know what to think anymore. I can’t believe we are going through all of this again. We will see what happens next.
            “Thank you to all my fans who have supported me during this dark time. I love you all very much.”

            https://www.mmafighting.com/2017/8/22/16187722/daniel-cormier-releases-statement-regarding-jon-jones-drug-test-failure

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            • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

              @Duluth said in UFC:

              FFS the LHW division is a mess now

              Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

              Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

              What an idiot.

              But possibly shows that Jones didn't feel he could beat DC clean.

              Ban him for life.

              There are some good LH coming through.

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              Unco
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              #305

              @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

              @Duluth said in UFC:

              FFS the LHW division is a mess now

              Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

              Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

              What an idiot.

              But possibly shows that Jones didn't feel he could beat DC clean.

              Ban him for life.

              There are some good LH coming through.

              I think what it shows is if you combine it with his weird T/E ratio a couple years ago and the inhibitor he was banned for last year, he's probably been on roids his entire career. It calls into question every fight he's won.

              It'll be interesting to see what kind of ban he gets. The inhibitor he failed for last year was only a 1 year ban, whereas roids are two years and second time offenders are double that. So it'll depend on whether they consider this his first or second fail because they're two different drugs. If it's his first then he should get a 2 year ban but if it's his second, it'll be a 4 year ban. At 30 right now, he's snorted, crashed into and pissed hot the peak years of his career. What a fuckwit.

              Oh and while I know they're waiting to see how things play out before doing anything, if they don't just give the belt straight back to DC and pretend that loss never happened, it'll be a complete joke. You can't lose a fight to someone who shouldn't have even been allowed in the octagon.

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              • UncoU Unco

                @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                @Duluth said in UFC:

                FFS the LHW division is a mess now

                Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

                Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

                What an idiot.

                But possibly shows that Jones didn't feel he could beat DC clean.

                Ban him for life.

                There are some good LH coming through.

                I think what it shows is if you combine it with his weird T/E ratio a couple years ago and the inhibitor he was banned for last year, he's probably been on roids his entire career. It calls into question every fight he's won.

                It'll be interesting to see what kind of ban he gets. The inhibitor he failed for last year was only a 1 year ban, whereas roids are two years and second time offenders are double that. So it'll depend on whether they consider this his first or second fail because they're two different drugs. If it's his first then he should get a 2 year ban but if it's his second, it'll be a 4 year ban. At 30 right now, he's snorted, crashed into and pissed hot the peak years of his career. What a fuckwit.

                Oh and while I know they're waiting to see how things play out before doing anything, if they don't just give the belt straight back to DC and pretend that loss never happened, it'll be a complete joke. You can't lose a fight to someone who shouldn't have even been allowed in the octagon.

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                MiketheSnow
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                #306

                @Unco said in UFC:

                @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                @Duluth said in UFC:

                FFS the LHW division is a mess now

                Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

                Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

                What an idiot.

                But possibly shows that Jones didn't feel he could beat DC clean.

                Ban him for life.

                There are some good LH coming through.

                I think what it shows is if you combine it with his weird T/E ratio a couple years ago and the inhibitor he was banned for last year, he's probably been on roids his entire career. It calls into question every fight he's won.

                It'll be interesting to see what kind of ban he gets. The inhibitor he failed for last year was only a 1 year ban, whereas roids are two years and second time offenders are double that. So it'll depend on whether they consider this his first or second fail because they're two different drugs. If it's his first then he should get a 2 year ban but if it's his second, it'll be a 4 year ban. At 30 right now, he's snorted, crashed into and pissed hot the peak years of his career. What a fuckwit.

                Oh and while I know they're waiting to see how things play out before doing anything, if they don't just give the belt straight back to DC and pretend that loss never happened, it'll be a complete joke. You can't lose a fight to someone who shouldn't have even been allowed in the octagon.

                Agreed.

                If they don't see the long term impact of this and ban him for life then the UFC is on the WWE road.

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                • UncoU Unco

                  @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                  @Duluth said in UFC:

                  FFS the LHW division is a mess now

                  Jones won't come back. The fans won't look at Cormier as the real champ. The UFC tried to pretend Manuwa was a contender and he got exposed. Rumble had a chance against Cormier and fucked it up, then retired..

                  Hopefully Gustafsson gets the next challenge and wins the belt

                  What an idiot.

                  But possibly shows that Jones didn't feel he could beat DC clean.

                  Ban him for life.

                  There are some good LH coming through.

                  I think what it shows is if you combine it with his weird T/E ratio a couple years ago and the inhibitor he was banned for last year, he's probably been on roids his entire career. It calls into question every fight he's won.

                  It'll be interesting to see what kind of ban he gets. The inhibitor he failed for last year was only a 1 year ban, whereas roids are two years and second time offenders are double that. So it'll depend on whether they consider this his first or second fail because they're two different drugs. If it's his first then he should get a 2 year ban but if it's his second, it'll be a 4 year ban. At 30 right now, he's snorted, crashed into and pissed hot the peak years of his career. What a fuckwit.

                  Oh and while I know they're waiting to see how things play out before doing anything, if they don't just give the belt straight back to DC and pretend that loss never happened, it'll be a complete joke. You can't lose a fight to someone who shouldn't have even been allowed in the octagon.

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                  Milk
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #307

                  @Unco said in UFC:

                  Oh and while I know they're waiting to see how things play out before doing anything, if they don't just give the belt straight back to DC and pretend that loss never happened, it'll be a complete joke. You can't lose a fight to someone who shouldn't have even been allowed in the octagon.

                  Surely they'd have to. The result gets overturned so you would hope the belt goes back. DC probably won't fight again this year so perhaps they'll also have an interim belt fight.

                  Considering the brutal nature of the knock out, could DC sue Jones?

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                    MiketheSnow
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                    #308

                    'Tainted supplement' coming out of the Jones camp

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                    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                      'Tainted supplement' coming out of the Jones camp

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                      @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                      'Tainted supplement' coming out of the Jones camp

                      More like supplemented taint.

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                      • MilkM Milk

                        @Unco said in UFC:

                        Oh and while I know they're waiting to see how things play out before doing anything, if they don't just give the belt straight back to DC and pretend that loss never happened, it'll be a complete joke. You can't lose a fight to someone who shouldn't have even been allowed in the octagon.

                        Surely they'd have to. The result gets overturned so you would hope the belt goes back. DC probably won't fight again this year so perhaps they'll also have an interim belt fight.

                        Considering the brutal nature of the knock out, could DC sue Jones?

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                        @Milk said in UFC:

                        @Unco said in UFC:

                        Oh and while I know they're waiting to see how things play out before doing anything, if they don't just give the belt straight back to DC and pretend that loss never happened, it'll be a complete joke. You can't lose a fight to someone who shouldn't have even been allowed in the octagon.

                        Surely they'd have to. The result gets overturned so you would hope the belt goes back. DC probably won't fight again this year so perhaps they'll also have an interim belt fight.

                        Considering the brutal nature of the knock out, could DC sue Jones?

                        Mark Hunt mate. He took the UFC to court for his fight with Brock Lesnar.

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                          UFC 215
                          Some very good action, upsets and controversy.

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                            Jones ... positive second test. UFC must be red Rover for him.

                            Ben Johnson moment.

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                            • MajorPomM MajorPom

                              Jones ... positive second test. UFC must be red Rover for him.

                              Ben Johnson moment.

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                              @MajorRage said in UFC:

                              Jones ... positive second test. UFC must be red Rover for him.

                              Ben Johnson moment.

                              Hopefully.

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                                Been some cracking fights the past month.

                                UFC 216

                                Last three fights delivered. Def worth a watch.

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                                  Cerrone v Till is definitely worth a watch

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                                    UFC 119

                                    Golm v Colombo
                                    Impressive debut from Golm. Fast and tough. And skills to pay the bills

                                    Figueiredo v Brooks
                                    Bullshit hometown decision
                                    Brooks' wrestling too good for Figueiredo

                                    Dos Santos v Griffin
                                    A barrage from Dos Santos in Round 1 and somehow Griffin survives
                                    Steady Round 2
                                    And a deserved unanimous decision for Dos Santos after some heavy bombs in Round 3

                                    Dias v Gordon
                                    Gordon's ground game too strong for Dias

                                    Carlos Junior v Masrshman
                                    Too easy for Carlos Junior as Marshman gives his back

                                    Luque v Price
                                    Luque faster, stronger and more precise

                                    Lineker v Vera
                                    Dominance from Lineker

                                    Santos v Hermansson
                                    Dynamic kicking and striking from Santos for a first round stoppage

                                    Trinaldo v Miller
                                    Tough, tough toe to toe with Trinaldo getting the decision

                                    Munhoz v Font
                                    Fantastic guillotine from Munhoz

                                    Maia v Covington
                                    Big win for Covington. Deserved.

                                    Machida v Brunson
                                    Wow. Machida in control and then Brunson turns out the lights. Maybe on his career

                                    Big night next week 🙂

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                                      GSP!

                                      Pity about the other two titles fights though. Joanna 😞

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                                        UFC 217

                                        Zahabi v Ramos
                                        If at first you don't succeed...
                                        Great second attempt at spinning elbow from Ramos turns Zahabi's lights out

                                        Oleinik v Blaydes
                                        What a chin on Oleinik in Round 1
                                        Then a controversial illegal kick that barely brushed Oleinik's ear in Round 2 caused confusion before Blaydes got the TKO after the ref called Oleinik couldn't continue

                                        Brown v Gall
                                        A war, back and forth, but Brown too strong

                                        Saint Preux v Anderson
                                        Tough, tough battle with Saint Preux tiring and down on the cards and then he pulls out a roundhouse kick to the head that puts Anderson out for the count
                                        Wow

                                        Harris v Godbeer
                                        Godbeer spent most of the first round on his back but did a good job of covering up
                                        Then Harris has an accidental low blow followed by a kick to the face after the ref called time twice
                                        Harris DQd, Godbeer with the win. Not that he knew anything about it
                                        Harris will come though. Fast, dynamic and tough. With skills

                                        Vick v Duffy
                                        Really good back and forth fight with Duffy ahead on the cards
                                        Then Vick catches Duffy with a great uppercut for the ref to stop the fight just before the 2nd round buzzer

                                        Hendricks v Costa
                                        Costa too big, too quick, too skillful for Hendricks. But Hendricks durable and game. And experienced.
                                        A pissed off Costa ups the pace in the second round and Big John McCarthy calls it after a Costa barrage

                                        Thompson v Masvidal
                                        Masvidal bamboozled by Thompson's speed and style

                                        Jedrzejczyk v Namajunas
                                        WOW
                                        What a fight, what a finish from Namajunas
                                        Accurate and punishing

                                        Barbrandt v Dillishaw
                                        WOW
                                        So fast
                                        Brilliant finish from TJ
                                        Rematch please

                                        Bisping v GSP
                                        MSG, GSP, OMG

                                        BEST CARD EVER

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                                          For me this was all about GSP. Just seeing him come to the ring was surreal. He was awesome. Bisping is a division gate keeper that somehow ended up champion. So theres got to be something said about that... I hope GSP sticks around. I think if he stays at middleweight Whittaker will ruin him. You could see Whittaker licking his lips after the fight. So would be happy to see him go back to Welterweight. But Woodley is a hell of a speed bump. It's not an easy road either way he goes.

                                          Rose Namajunas was the obvious surprise of the night. Scary to think she is only 25. I have been a fan for a while. She started out as a bit of a gimmick. Another pretty girl, Paige Vanzant type. But she went away from being a poster girl, shaved her head, ditched the bikinis at weigh ins and became a fucken weapon. Huge, huge fan of Thug.

                                          No Love really started to get it going but lost composure. Dillashaw is a hard puzzle to solve but I think he was more lucky than anything there has to be a rematch. I know the money is for a Cruz fight next up but I'd rather see these 2 go at it again.

                                          Time for Hendricks to give it away.

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