Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11
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Some thoughts
Cane shouldn't be in front of haka, his mouth is too small.
Pat T and Ofa still have question marks about their ability to start tests.
Clark and Sotutu need to start. Lomax looked good in the closing minutes as well.
RM was really out of sorts (was it a tight 5 problem?), need to start BB.
Nick White was allowed to snipe again.....sigh..... has anyone in the coaching box seen the games last year. Why is he given so much space yet again? Shit coaching! -
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At least stuffs rating have some semblance of reality, don't look at the heralds, averaged 6 or 7 of ten!
Edit. Don't look at rugby pass, minimum is 6 most are 8, what fucking game were they watching?
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All that said: you'd have to say that is a fair result in that NEITHER team deserved to win.
Wallabies lineout and ruck work was bad. The backline had a couple of flashes running that short side, but were given a mountain of possession and achieved very little with it prior to the rain hitting. The scrum was inconsistent (even if Ofa gamed the ref into giving some short arms), and the work off the back of said scrum was ponderous.
White's long passing game was sub-par but his running was good. Option taking from Toomua was often poor. JOC was solid but not spectacular. I thought Paisami was workable and Daugunu was rocks and diamonds - that offload to DMac when he made a break was crap, but he skinned the defender a couple of times with pace and a bit of good work from his inside men. Forward pack was OK bar the lineout - I thought Matt Philip and Harry Wilson were very good on the carry.
Overall surprised Wallabies were still in it despite operating a couple gears lower than the ABs. But our handling seems to have improved bar a couple of absolutely howlers (that set move before halftime).
Speaking of whom: handling errors must have been killers for you guys. I think ?9? in the first half alone? Very much NOT like an AB team and you'd have to say the crucial one was the dropped ball over the tryline. Sorry Rieko but the game is about more than your hairstyle getting messed up, sunshine.
When they had the ball, the decision making was rapid and generally accurate from Smith but everything else was a bit meh. Besides the first try they didn't really execute a backline move with precision and there wasn't much first phase attack that really stood out. Defensively very good which you kind of expect these days.
Sam Cane was a fucking monster and easily MOTM for me. The number of times he saved the collective arse of the national pride was sublime. Honourable mentions to Harry Wilson on debut.
Both teams will be better for it, but I think barring injury we'll see an unchanged Wallaby side in Auckland while the pressure will come to bear on Foster over what he picked for today and it'll put a laser focus on what he picks next week.
The issue for AB fans is this: after a close game against the Wallabies (or * gasp * a loss) they're used to their team absolutely smashing them next time. So it is a cliff face of expectation, and I know someone like Cane will relish that.
Foster? Not so sure.
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I thought the big work on after the semi was to improve our physicality. We looked even less physical than last year.
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All that said: you'd have to say that is a fair result in that NEITHER team deserved to win.
Wallabies lineout and ruck work was bad. The backline had a couple of flashes running that short side, but were given a mountain of possession and achieved very little with it prior to the rain hitting. The scrum was inconsistent (even if Ofa gamed the ref into giving some short arms), and the work off the back of said scrum was ponderous.
White's long passing game was sub-par but his running was good. Option taking from Toomua was often poor. JOC was solid but not spectacular. I thought Paisami was workable and Daugunu was rocks and diamonds - that offload to DMac when he made a break was crap, but he skinned the defender a couple of times with pace and a bit of good work from his inside men. Forward pack was OK bar the lineout - I thought Matt Philip and Harry Wilson were very good on the carry.
Overall surprised Wallabies were still in it despite operating a couple gears lower than the ABs. But our handling seems to have improved bar a couple of absolutely howlers (that set move before halftime).
Speaking of whom: handling errors must have been killers for you guys. I think ?9? in the first half alone? Very much NOT like an AB team and you'd have to say the crucial one was the dropped ball over the tryline. Sorry Rieko but the game is about more than your hairstyle getting messed up, sunshine.
When they had the ball, the decision making was rapid and generally accurate from Smith but everything else was a bit meh. Besides the first try they didn't really execute a backline move with precision and there wasn't much first phase attack that really stood out. Defensively very good which you kind of expect these days.
Sam Cane was a fucking monster and easily MOTM for me. The number of times he saved the collective arse of the national pride was sublime. Honourable mentions to Harry Wilson on debut.
Both teams will be better for it, but I think barring injury we'll see an unchanged Wallaby side in Auckland while the pressure will come to bear on Foster over what he picked for today and it'll put a laser focus on what he picks next week.
The issue for AB fans is this: after a close game against the Wallabies (or * gasp * a loss) they're used to their team absolutely smashing them next time. So it is a cliff face of expectation, and I know someone like Cane will relish that.
Foster? Not so sure.
@NTA said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
All that said: you'd have to say that is a fair result in that NEITHER team deserved to win.
White's long passing game was sub-par but his running was good. Option taking from Toomua was often poor. JOC was solid but not spectacular. I thought Paisami was workable and Daugunu was rocks and diamonds - - I thought Matt Philip and Harry Wilson were very good on the carry.
Agree totally, whilst I wanted the win I thought the draw was a fair result. Yes, Wilson appears to be a player who just makes meters, perhaps he has that skill of knowing where to be. Daugunu appears to be a great find. I am actually really looking forward to next week to see how both teams respond. If Rennie and team can keep it close or win then you would have to say the future looks very bright.
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@akan004 Aaron Smith said in the post-match interview that the ABs didn't get to the ruck fast enough; the Aussies were way faster. That caused some of the problems for him and Mo'unga, denying them enough time. He said that he and RM should have used their kicking game more ...
Not sure that would have worked with this weather, but I also thought the ABs looked at bit slow at times (compared to the Aussies).
@Stargazer said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@akan004 Aaron Smith said in the post-match interview that the ABs didn't get to the ruck fast enough; the Aussies were way faster. That caused some of the problems for him and Mo'unga, denying them enough time. He said that he and RM should have used their kicking game more ...
Not sure that would have worked with this weather, but I also thought the ABs looked at bit slow at times (compared to the Aussies).
You mean putting up some bombs in a swirling breeze to put pressure on their inexperienced back 3 wouldn't have been a good option....?
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At least stuffs rating have some semblance of reality, don't look at the heralds, averaged 6 or 7 of ten!
Edit. Don't look at rugby pass, minimum is 6 most are 8, what fucking game were they watching?
@Machpants said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
At least stuffs rating have some semblance of reality, don't look at the heralds, averaged 6 or 7 of ten!
Edit. Don't look at rugby pass, minimum is 6 most are 8, what fucking game were they watching?
Player ratings are meant to be just that. Not a reflection on disapointment over the overall team.
Cane deserves way more than a 6. That was a seriously impressive performance. -
@akan004 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
I thought the big work on after the semi was to improve our physicality. We looked even less physical than last year.
That and having a clear game plan would have made a big difference
@junior said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@akan004 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
I thought the big work on after the semi was to improve our physicality. We looked even less physical than last year.
That and having a clear game plan would have made a big difference
Isn't "just run about a bit" a good gameplan?
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@Stargazer said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@chimoaus Aren't the tests against the Aussies in Australia also for the Bledisloe Cup?
Yeah, can someone tell me how the Bledisloe works with 4 games. Can we technically draw 1 more and lose 2 and still retain it. Don't the Aussies have to win 3 to win it? Or do we have to win at least twice?
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@Stargazer said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@chimoaus Aren't the tests against the Aussies in Australia also for the Bledisloe Cup?
Yeah, can someone tell me how the Bledisloe works with 4 games. Can we technically draw 1 more and lose 2 and still retain it. Don't the Aussies have to win 3 to win it? Or do we have to win at least twice?
@chimoaus said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Stargazer said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@chimoaus Aren't the tests against the Aussies in Australia also for the Bledisloe Cup?
Yeah, can someone tell me how the Bledisloe works with 4 games. Can we technically draw 1 more and lose 2 and still retain it. Don't the Aussies have to win 3 to win it? Or do we have to win at least twice?
No - if there are 2 draws and 2 Wallaby wins, it is ours, 2-nil.
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@Stargazer said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@chimoaus Aren't the tests against the Aussies in Australia also for the Bledisloe Cup?
Yeah, can someone tell me how the Bledisloe works with 4 games. Can we technically draw 1 more and lose 2 and still retain it. Don't the Aussies have to win 3 to win it? Or do we have to win at least twice?
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At least stuffs rating have some semblance of reality, don't look at the heralds, averaged 6 or 7 of ten!
Edit. Don't look at rugby pass, minimum is 6 most are 8, what fucking game were they watching?
@Machpants said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
At least stuffs rating have some semblance of reality, don't look at the heralds, averaged 6 or 7 of ten!
Edit. Don't look at rugby pass, minimum is 6 most are 8, what fucking game were they watching?
Paul Cully gives Sam Cane the same rating as Ardie Savea? Are one of you fluffers this clown in real life?
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@chimoaus said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Stargazer said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@chimoaus Aren't the tests against the Aussies in Australia also for the Bledisloe Cup?
Yeah, can someone tell me how the Bledisloe works with 4 games. Can we technically draw 1 more and lose 2 and still retain it. Don't the Aussies have to win 3 to win it? Or do we have to win at least twice?
No - if there are 2 draws and 2 Wallaby wins, it is ours, 2-nil.
@NTA said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@chimoaus said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Stargazer said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@chimoaus Aren't the tests against the Aussies in Australia also for the Bledisloe Cup?
Yeah, can someone tell me how the Bledisloe works with 4 games. Can we technically draw 1 more and lose 2 and still retain it. Don't the Aussies have to win 3 to win it? Or do we have to win at least twice?
No - if there are 2 draws and 2 Wallaby wins, it is ours, 2-nil.
The Bled is three games. I'm unsure if it is determined by points difference in the event of a draw and a win apiece or if the holder keeps it.
