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Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11

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  • ToddyT Toddy

    Went in to the game and took my four year daughter. Was a great atmosphere and the extra minutes at the end just added to the experience. Will have to watch the game again this week as you miss so much at the game. Best part was some drunk lady distracted my daughter for most of the game so I actually got to watch most of it.

    Couple of things on the game (though won't stand by them too closely until I've rewatched it).

    Backs
    DMac looked a lot better here than he did for the Chiefs. I'd still rather see one of the Barretts there but was good to see him get some form back.

    Jordie is way to pedestrian for wing. There was one point early in the first half where he appeared to be trying to run through quick sand.

    Will be interesting to watch Reiko. He appeared to fuck up by not passing to Jordie at one stage and hogged the ball instead. And dropping the ball like he did is embarrassing and effectively lost us the game. I really wish that he'd go back to being the worlds best winger.

    Bridge is so impotent. Really doesn't seem to offer much. Though that was a sweet pass that lead to Smith's try.

    R'Mo looked below test level standard. Looked indecisive at times and seemed to have no confidence in the end to demand they set up for a droppie. Might be a while before he finds his feet at test level.

    Ardie was no where near a test standard 8. I've got no idea why Foster (other than Foster is a fuckwit) picks two sevens in his starting trio and asks one of them to play like a big bopper 8. Sevens work best when they have constant interactions in the game.

    Cane was awesome and hit attackers like a truck. Though his first game as captain had a real 2020 Chiefs feel to it.

    I thought Frizell went OK. He tackled well and it's not his fault the loose forward mix is out.

    Moody tackled well and Ofa hit hard but fell off a few tackles. Cody appeared to carry on his average 2019 form.

    Rennie 'out coached' Foster. The OZ first half was excellent as they more often than not would have been playing into the swirling breeze. I think a stat popped up at halftime that OZ had 70% possession and territory which is clever rugby in those conditions.

    Not much to say about the Wallabies other than well done and they probably deserved to win the game. I think an area they can make good improvement in is their accuracy at the breakdown. The amount of times the AB's managed to get a turnover or penalty after a Wallaby went flying/crashing over the ruck instead of actually clearing out was hilarious. Lucky for the AB's too as it meant the Wallabies couldn't build enough pressure.

    Looking forward to catching this on TV and revising my opinions.

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    @Toddy good analysis from what I can see

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      @chimoaus said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

      @ACT-Crusader He basically walks up to the ruck, puts his hand on top of the wallaby then casually walks away. The next drive the ruck is directly under the posts. Its at this stage he should be demanding the ball to throw it over. WTF is he even doing at the ruck. The rest of the backline are out waiting.

      RMDG.jpg

      That last shot of the 4 (bottom right) is quite telling - look at the space behind the ruck, right in front of the posts, basically the perfect spot for him to casually knock it over.

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      @junior said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

      @chimoaus said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

      @ACT-Crusader He basically walks up to the ruck, puts his hand on top of the wallaby then casually walks away. The next drive the ruck is directly under the posts. Its at this stage he should be demanding the ball to throw it over. WTF is he even doing at the ruck. The rest of the backline are out waiting.

      RMDG.jpg

      That last shot of the 4 (bottom right) is quite telling - look at the space behind the ruck, right in front of the posts, basically the perfect spot for him to casually knock it over.

      How would you expect the AB's to setup for a drop goal?

      My expectation would be for them to try and drive around the fringes 4-5 times to suck in defenders while half back and kicker/kickers got into position. None of this was happening - blaming Mo'unga when the team were clearly not trying to get into position for a drop kick attempt would appear disingenious.

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        Great match for the unencumbered

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        • sparkyS sparky

          Sparky's blame game

          1.NZR for choosing Ian Foster as Head Coach. There were other better options available: Razor, Jamie Joseph, Dave Rennie. They went with Foster as a "job for the boys" pick. Today our team was comprehensively outcoached.

          1. Ian Foster for creating a safety-first culture within the ABs. The All Blacks should be expected to win every match. Foster set up his team not to lose.

          2. Foster, Fox and Plumtree for selecting a number of players who were tried and found wanting in the last World Cup cycle. Young talent like Hoskins Sotutu, Caleb Clarke and Will Jordan should have started. No more selecting a team of your pals, select a team to win.

          3. Reiko Ioane. Know your history and learn from this. Showboating is not part of the All Blacks game. Could have been a great try. Go watch the tapes of Grant Batty, Bryan Williams, John Kirwan, Jonah Lomu and Doug Howlett scoring tries. Put the ball down with two hands carefully, then jog back to the middle.

          4. Richie Mo'unga. Know you history and learn from this. We lost in Cardiff in 07 and drew against the Lions in 2017 because the First Fives on the field (Luke McAlister and Aaron Cruden) were too shy to call thw drop call at the end. Spend a hour a week practising this call and its execution. We expect the ABs to win.

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          @sparky said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

          Sparky's blame game

          the tapes of Grant Batty, Bryan Williams, John Kirwan, Jonah Lomu and Doug Howlett scoring tries. Put the ball down with two hands carefully, then jog back to the middle.

          Gunna disagree a smidge here.

          Score a try is a good thing. Be happy.

          Don't be a dick perhaps. (Fuck sake Reiko...)

          But it's ok to celebrate.

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          • boobooB booboo

            @sparky said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

            Sparky's blame game

            the tapes of Grant Batty, Bryan Williams, John Kirwan, Jonah Lomu and Doug Howlett scoring tries. Put the ball down with two hands carefully, then jog back to the middle.

            Gunna disagree a smidge here.

            Score a try is a good thing. Be happy.

            Don't be a dick perhaps. (Fuck sake Reiko...)

            But it's ok to celebrate.

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            canefan
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            #1635

            @booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

            @sparky said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

            Sparky's blame game

            the tapes of Grant Batty, Bryan Williams, John Kirwan, Jonah Lomu and Doug Howlett scoring tries. Put the ball down with two hands carefully, then jog back to the middle.

            Gunna disagree a smidge here.

            Score a try is a good thing. Be happy.

            Don't be a dick perhaps. (Fuck sake Reiko...)

            But it's ok to celebrate.

            Much more acceptable these days, just keep it classy

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              Ok late to the party, here we go...

              Frizzel, looked like he was finally going to step up in the first 15 mins, then faded pretty badly and became a background player.

              Taylor - what happened to the guy that came in and replaced Coles and didn't miss a beat with being an attacking game changer?

              Ofa - definitely needs to pick his moments better but was a shining light in our tight 5 physicality.

              Tuipulotu - what happened to the barnstorming blues player? Melted into the background much like Frizzel.

              Whitelock - surprised to see him getting grief, ball in hand he actually made a couple of really good runs into the defence, unfortunately it's offset by the amount of times (like the rest of the forwards) he gets the ball standing still 5m behind the gain line and has no chance. What the fuck is up with this pattern?

              Savea - didn't look himself at all, is he injured? Getting dragged back by the opposition 9 who's probably the smallest in the oppo isn't exactly a good look for an 8.

              Smith - again looked off his game, 80% of his game was there, but surprisingly lacked accuracy in his passing and decision making, especially early.

              Mounga looked like a debutant out of his depth.

              Goodhue - similar type of game to Whitelock, the rest has been said - he's a great centre and defender.

              Roane - thought he had an excellent game for a debut centre, then he goes and fucks up that try, illustrating that uncontrollable ego that irks so many of us. Surely he could eat some humble pie by now?

              DMac - about a hundred times better than any other footy he's played this year, but another one having that covered up by deadly errors.

              Clarke - surely he's starting next match?

              Sotutu - surely he's starting next match?

              All in all, just so many fuck ups from a team that used to pride itself on accuracy.

              The worst thing for me - it all played out exactly how many would have predicted from the dire team selected. How the fuck can average Joe see this shit and Foster can't. What is he making his decision on that we don't know?

              Highlight - Smith's try was a gorgeous bit of salt in the wounds and if we'd won it would have made a great highlight vid paired up with the Wallas go at the same move. Especially if someone else hadn't acted the fucktard and could score a try like the Wallabies debut winger.

              Smith
              Beauden
              Clarke
              ALB
              Goodhue
              Reece
              Jordie

              Perenara
              Mounga
              Roane.

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              • canefanC canefan

                @booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                @sparky said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                Sparky's blame game

                the tapes of Grant Batty, Bryan Williams, John Kirwan, Jonah Lomu and Doug Howlett scoring tries. Put the ball down with two hands carefully, then jog back to the middle.

                Gunna disagree a smidge here.

                Score a try is a good thing. Be happy.

                Don't be a dick perhaps. (Fuck sake Reiko...)

                But it's ok to celebrate.

                Much more acceptable these days, just keep it classy

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                @canefan said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                @booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                @sparky said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                Sparky's blame game

                the tapes of Grant Batty, Bryan Williams, John Kirwan, Jonah Lomu and Doug Howlett scoring tries. Put the ball down with two hands carefully, then jog back to the middle.

                Gunna disagree a smidge here.

                Score a try is a good thing. Be happy.

                Don't be a dick perhaps. (Fuck sake Reiko...)

                But it's ok to celebrate.

                Much more acceptable these days, just keep it classy

                Well at least score the try first ...

                And just remember back in the 70s when we didn't celebrate tries we didn't win much...

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                  Oh and right at the end, there was a disappointing degree of urgency and "wanting it" from so many in the team. The screenshots of Mounga are pretty cringey and I remember watching Jordie just walking about behind around the same time, not screaming into position and trying to organise anything. Everyone was just so lackadaisical.

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    Oh and right at the end, there was a disappointing degree of urgency and "wanting it" from so many in the team. The screenshots of Mounga are pretty cringey and I remember watching Jordie just walking about behind around the same time, not screaming into position and trying to organise anything. Everyone was just so lackadaisical.

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                    @Bones the leadership group has not recovered since 2015

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      Ok late to the party, here we go...

                      Frizzel, looked like he was finally going to step up in the first 15 mins, then faded pretty badly and became a background player.

                      Taylor - what happened to the guy that came in and replaced Coles and didn't miss a beat with being an attacking game changer?

                      Ofa - definitely needs to pick his moments better but was a shining light in our tight 5 physicality.

                      Tuipulotu - what happened to the barnstorming blues player? Melted into the background much like Frizzel.

                      Whitelock - surprised to see him getting grief, ball in hand he actually made a couple of really good runs into the defence, unfortunately it's offset by the amount of times (like the rest of the forwards) he gets the ball standing still 5m behind the gain line and has no chance. What the fuck is up with this pattern?

                      Savea - didn't look himself at all, is he injured? Getting dragged back by the opposition 9 who's probably the smallest in the oppo isn't exactly a good look for an 8.

                      Smith - again looked off his game, 80% of his game was there, but surprisingly lacked accuracy in his passing and decision making, especially early.

                      Mounga looked like a debutant out of his depth.

                      Goodhue - similar type of game to Whitelock, the rest has been said - he's a great centre and defender.

                      Roane - thought he had an excellent game for a debut centre, then he goes and fucks up that try, illustrating that uncontrollable ego that irks so many of us. Surely he could eat some humble pie by now?

                      DMac - about a hundred times better than any other footy he's played this year, but another one having that covered up by deadly errors.

                      Clarke - surely he's starting next match?

                      Sotutu - surely he's starting next match?

                      All in all, just so many fuck ups from a team that used to pride itself on accuracy.

                      The worst thing for me - it all played out exactly how many would have predicted from the dire team selected. How the fuck can average Joe see this shit and Foster can't. What is he making his decision on that we don't know?

                      Highlight - Smith's try was a gorgeous bit of salt in the wounds and if we'd won it would have made a great highlight vid paired up with the Wallas go at the same move. Especially if someone else hadn't acted the fucktard and could score a try like the Wallabies debut winger.

                      Smith
                      Beauden
                      Clarke
                      ALB
                      Goodhue
                      Reece
                      Jordie

                      Perenara
                      Mounga
                      Roane.

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                      #1640

                      @Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                      Ok late to the party, here we go...

                      Frizzel, looked like he was finally going to step up in the first 15 mins, then faded pretty badly and became a background player.

                      Taylor - what happened to the guy that came in and replaced Coles and didn't miss a beat with being an attacking game changer?

                      Ofa - definitely needs to pick his moments better but was a shining light in our tight 5 physicality.

                      Tuipulotu - what happened to the barnstorming blues player? Melted into the background much like Frizzel.

                      Whitelock - surprised to see him getting grief, ball in hand he actually made a couple of really good runs into the defence, unfortunately it's offset by the amount of times (like the rest of the forwards) he gets the ball standing still 5m behind the gain line and has no chance. What the fuck is up with this pattern?

                      Savea - didn't look himself at all, is he injured? Getting dragged back by the opposition 9 who's probably the smallest in the oppo isn't exactly a good look for an 8.

                      Smith - again looked off his game, 80% of his game was there, but surprisingly lacked accuracy in his passing and decision making, especially early.

                      Mounga looked like a debutant out of his depth.

                      Goodhue - similar type of game to Whitelock, the rest has been said - he's a great centre and defender.

                      Roane - thought he had an excellent game for a debut centre, then he goes and fucks up that try, illustrating that uncontrollable ego that irks so many of us. Surely he could eat some humble pie by now?

                      DMac - about a hundred times better than any other footy he's played this year, but another one having that covered up by deadly errors.

                      Clarke - surely he's starting next match?

                      Sotutu - surely he's starting next match?

                      All in all, just so many fuck ups from a team that used to pride itself on accuracy.

                      The worst thing for me - it all played out exactly how many would have predicted from the dire team selected. How the fuck can average Joe see this shit and Foster can't. What is he making his decision on that we don't know?

                      Highlight - Smith's try was a gorgeous bit of salt in the wounds and if we'd won it would have made a great highlight vid paired up with the Wallas go at the same move. Especially if someone else hadn't acted the fucktard and could score a try like the Wallabies debut winger.

                      Smith
                      Beauden
                      Clarke
                      ALB
                      Goodhue
                      Reece
                      Jordie

                      Perenara
                      Mounga
                      Roane.

                      Jesus.......poor Bridge isn't even worth a mention.....

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                      • MN5M MN5

                        @Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                        Ok late to the party, here we go...

                        Frizzel, looked like he was finally going to step up in the first 15 mins, then faded pretty badly and became a background player.

                        Taylor - what happened to the guy that came in and replaced Coles and didn't miss a beat with being an attacking game changer?

                        Ofa - definitely needs to pick his moments better but was a shining light in our tight 5 physicality.

                        Tuipulotu - what happened to the barnstorming blues player? Melted into the background much like Frizzel.

                        Whitelock - surprised to see him getting grief, ball in hand he actually made a couple of really good runs into the defence, unfortunately it's offset by the amount of times (like the rest of the forwards) he gets the ball standing still 5m behind the gain line and has no chance. What the fuck is up with this pattern?

                        Savea - didn't look himself at all, is he injured? Getting dragged back by the opposition 9 who's probably the smallest in the oppo isn't exactly a good look for an 8.

                        Smith - again looked off his game, 80% of his game was there, but surprisingly lacked accuracy in his passing and decision making, especially early.

                        Mounga looked like a debutant out of his depth.

                        Goodhue - similar type of game to Whitelock, the rest has been said - he's a great centre and defender.

                        Roane - thought he had an excellent game for a debut centre, then he goes and fucks up that try, illustrating that uncontrollable ego that irks so many of us. Surely he could eat some humble pie by now?

                        DMac - about a hundred times better than any other footy he's played this year, but another one having that covered up by deadly errors.

                        Clarke - surely he's starting next match?

                        Sotutu - surely he's starting next match?

                        All in all, just so many fuck ups from a team that used to pride itself on accuracy.

                        The worst thing for me - it all played out exactly how many would have predicted from the dire team selected. How the fuck can average Joe see this shit and Foster can't. What is he making his decision on that we don't know?

                        Highlight - Smith's try was a gorgeous bit of salt in the wounds and if we'd won it would have made a great highlight vid paired up with the Wallas go at the same move. Especially if someone else hadn't acted the fucktard and could score a try like the Wallabies debut winger.

                        Smith
                        Beauden
                        Clarke
                        ALB
                        Goodhue
                        Reece
                        Jordie

                        Perenara
                        Mounga
                        Roane.

                        Jesus.......poor Bridge isn't even worth a mention.....

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                        @MN5 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                        @Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                        Ok late to the party, here we go...

                        Frizzel, looked like he was finally going to step up in the first 15 mins, then faded pretty badly and became a background player.

                        Taylor - what happened to the guy that came in and replaced Coles and didn't miss a beat with being an attacking game changer?

                        Ofa - definitely needs to pick his moments better but was a shining light in our tight 5 physicality.

                        Tuipulotu - what happened to the barnstorming blues player? Melted into the background much like Frizzel.

                        Whitelock - surprised to see him getting grief, ball in hand he actually made a couple of really good runs into the defence, unfortunately it's offset by the amount of times (like the rest of the forwards) he gets the ball standing still 5m behind the gain line and has no chance. What the fuck is up with this pattern?

                        Savea - didn't look himself at all, is he injured? Getting dragged back by the opposition 9 who's probably the smallest in the oppo isn't exactly a good look for an 8.

                        Smith - again looked off his game, 80% of his game was there, but surprisingly lacked accuracy in his passing and decision making, especially early.

                        Mounga looked like a debutant out of his depth.

                        Goodhue - similar type of game to Whitelock, the rest has been said - he's a great centre and defender.

                        Roane - thought he had an excellent game for a debut centre, then he goes and fucks up that try, illustrating that uncontrollable ego that irks so many of us. Surely he could eat some humble pie by now?

                        DMac - about a hundred times better than any other footy he's played this year, but another one having that covered up by deadly errors.

                        Clarke - surely he's starting next match?

                        Sotutu - surely he's starting next match?

                        All in all, just so many fuck ups from a team that used to pride itself on accuracy.

                        The worst thing for me - it all played out exactly how many would have predicted from the dire team selected. How the fuck can average Joe see this shit and Foster can't. What is he making his decision on that we don't know?

                        Highlight - Smith's try was a gorgeous bit of salt in the wounds and if we'd won it would have made a great highlight vid paired up with the Wallas go at the same move. Especially if someone else hadn't acted the fucktard and could score a try like the Wallabies debut winger.

                        Smith
                        Beauden
                        Clarke
                        ALB
                        Goodhue
                        Reece
                        Jordie

                        Perenara
                        Mounga
                        Roane.

                        Jesus.......poor Bridge isn't even worth a mention.....

                        I have a memory of Nisbo going "beats his opposite number" and me smirking if that counts?

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                        • MN5M MN5

                          @Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                          Ok late to the party, here we go...

                          Frizzel, looked like he was finally going to step up in the first 15 mins, then faded pretty badly and became a background player.

                          Taylor - what happened to the guy that came in and replaced Coles and didn't miss a beat with being an attacking game changer?

                          Ofa - definitely needs to pick his moments better but was a shining light in our tight 5 physicality.

                          Tuipulotu - what happened to the barnstorming blues player? Melted into the background much like Frizzel.

                          Whitelock - surprised to see him getting grief, ball in hand he actually made a couple of really good runs into the defence, unfortunately it's offset by the amount of times (like the rest of the forwards) he gets the ball standing still 5m behind the gain line and has no chance. What the fuck is up with this pattern?

                          Savea - didn't look himself at all, is he injured? Getting dragged back by the opposition 9 who's probably the smallest in the oppo isn't exactly a good look for an 8.

                          Smith - again looked off his game, 80% of his game was there, but surprisingly lacked accuracy in his passing and decision making, especially early.

                          Mounga looked like a debutant out of his depth.

                          Goodhue - similar type of game to Whitelock, the rest has been said - he's a great centre and defender.

                          Roane - thought he had an excellent game for a debut centre, then he goes and fucks up that try, illustrating that uncontrollable ego that irks so many of us. Surely he could eat some humble pie by now?

                          DMac - about a hundred times better than any other footy he's played this year, but another one having that covered up by deadly errors.

                          Clarke - surely he's starting next match?

                          Sotutu - surely he's starting next match?

                          All in all, just so many fuck ups from a team that used to pride itself on accuracy.

                          The worst thing for me - it all played out exactly how many would have predicted from the dire team selected. How the fuck can average Joe see this shit and Foster can't. What is he making his decision on that we don't know?

                          Highlight - Smith's try was a gorgeous bit of salt in the wounds and if we'd won it would have made a great highlight vid paired up with the Wallas go at the same move. Especially if someone else hadn't acted the fucktard and could score a try like the Wallabies debut winger.

                          Smith
                          Beauden
                          Clarke
                          ALB
                          Goodhue
                          Reece
                          Jordie

                          Perenara
                          Mounga
                          Roane.

                          Jesus.......poor Bridge isn't even worth a mention.....

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                          @MN5 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                          @Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                          Ok late to the party, here we go...

                          Frizzel, looked like he was finally going to step up in the first 15 mins, then faded pretty badly and became a background player.

                          Taylor - what happened to the guy that came in and replaced Coles and didn't miss a beat with being an attacking game changer?

                          Ofa - definitely needs to pick his moments better but was a shining light in our tight 5 physicality.

                          Tuipulotu - what happened to the barnstorming blues player? Melted into the background much like Frizzel.

                          Whitelock - surprised to see him getting grief, ball in hand he actually made a couple of really good runs into the defence, unfortunately it's offset by the amount of times (like the rest of the forwards) he gets the ball standing still 5m behind the gain line and has no chance. What the fuck is up with this pattern?

                          Savea - didn't look himself at all, is he injured? Getting dragged back by the opposition 9 who's probably the smallest in the oppo isn't exactly a good look for an 8.

                          Smith - again looked off his game, 80% of his game was there, but surprisingly lacked accuracy in his passing and decision making, especially early.

                          Mounga looked like a debutant out of his depth.

                          Goodhue - similar type of game to Whitelock, the rest has been said - he's a great centre and defender.

                          Roane - thought he had an excellent game for a debut centre, then he goes and fucks up that try, illustrating that uncontrollable ego that irks so many of us. Surely he could eat some humble pie by now?

                          DMac - about a hundred times better than any other footy he's played this year, but another one having that covered up by deadly errors.

                          Clarke - surely he's starting next match?

                          Sotutu - surely he's starting next match?

                          All in all, just so many fuck ups from a team that used to pride itself on accuracy.

                          The worst thing for me - it all played out exactly how many would have predicted from the dire team selected. How the fuck can average Joe see this shit and Foster can't. What is he making his decision on that we don't know?

                          Highlight - Smith's try was a gorgeous bit of salt in the wounds and if we'd won it would have made a great highlight vid paired up with the Wallas go at the same move. Especially if someone else hadn't acted the fucktard and could score a try like the Wallabies debut winger.

                          Smith
                          Beauden
                          Clarke
                          ALB
                          Goodhue
                          Reece
                          Jordie

                          Perenara
                          Mounga
                          Roane.

                          Jesus.......poor Bridge isn't even worth a mention.....

                          Who?

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            @MN5 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            @Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            Ok late to the party, here we go...

                            Frizzel, looked like he was finally going to step up in the first 15 mins, then faded pretty badly and became a background player.

                            Taylor - what happened to the guy that came in and replaced Coles and didn't miss a beat with being an attacking game changer?

                            Ofa - definitely needs to pick his moments better but was a shining light in our tight 5 physicality.

                            Tuipulotu - what happened to the barnstorming blues player? Melted into the background much like Frizzel.

                            Whitelock - surprised to see him getting grief, ball in hand he actually made a couple of really good runs into the defence, unfortunately it's offset by the amount of times (like the rest of the forwards) he gets the ball standing still 5m behind the gain line and has no chance. What the fuck is up with this pattern?

                            Savea - didn't look himself at all, is he injured? Getting dragged back by the opposition 9 who's probably the smallest in the oppo isn't exactly a good look for an 8.

                            Smith - again looked off his game, 80% of his game was there, but surprisingly lacked accuracy in his passing and decision making, especially early.

                            Mounga looked like a debutant out of his depth.

                            Goodhue - similar type of game to Whitelock, the rest has been said - he's a great centre and defender.

                            Roane - thought he had an excellent game for a debut centre, then he goes and fucks up that try, illustrating that uncontrollable ego that irks so many of us. Surely he could eat some humble pie by now?

                            DMac - about a hundred times better than any other footy he's played this year, but another one having that covered up by deadly errors.

                            Clarke - surely he's starting next match?

                            Sotutu - surely he's starting next match?

                            All in all, just so many fuck ups from a team that used to pride itself on accuracy.

                            The worst thing for me - it all played out exactly how many would have predicted from the dire team selected. How the fuck can average Joe see this shit and Foster can't. What is he making his decision on that we don't know?

                            Highlight - Smith's try was a gorgeous bit of salt in the wounds and if we'd won it would have made a great highlight vid paired up with the Wallas go at the same move. Especially if someone else hadn't acted the fucktard and could score a try like the Wallabies debut winger.

                            Smith
                            Beauden
                            Clarke
                            ALB
                            Goodhue
                            Reece
                            Jordie

                            Perenara
                            Mounga
                            Roane.

                            Jesus.......poor Bridge isn't even worth a mention.....

                            I have a memory of Nisbo going "beats his opposite number" and me smirking if that counts?

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                            @Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            @MN5 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            @Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            Ok late to the party, here we go...

                            Frizzel, looked like he was finally going to step up in the first 15 mins, then faded pretty badly and became a background player.

                            Taylor - what happened to the guy that came in and replaced Coles and didn't miss a beat with being an attacking game changer?

                            Ofa - definitely needs to pick his moments better but was a shining light in our tight 5 physicality.

                            Tuipulotu - what happened to the barnstorming blues player? Melted into the background much like Frizzel.

                            Whitelock - surprised to see him getting grief, ball in hand he actually made a couple of really good runs into the defence, unfortunately it's offset by the amount of times (like the rest of the forwards) he gets the ball standing still 5m behind the gain line and has no chance. What the fuck is up with this pattern?

                            Savea - didn't look himself at all, is he injured? Getting dragged back by the opposition 9 who's probably the smallest in the oppo isn't exactly a good look for an 8.

                            Smith - again looked off his game, 80% of his game was there, but surprisingly lacked accuracy in his passing and decision making, especially early.

                            Mounga looked like a debutant out of his depth.

                            Goodhue - similar type of game to Whitelock, the rest has been said - he's a great centre and defender.

                            Roane - thought he had an excellent game for a debut centre, then he goes and fucks up that try, illustrating that uncontrollable ego that irks so many of us. Surely he could eat some humble pie by now?

                            DMac - about a hundred times better than any other footy he's played this year, but another one having that covered up by deadly errors.

                            Clarke - surely he's starting next match?

                            Sotutu - surely he's starting next match?

                            All in all, just so many fuck ups from a team that used to pride itself on accuracy.

                            The worst thing for me - it all played out exactly how many would have predicted from the dire team selected. How the fuck can average Joe see this shit and Foster can't. What is he making his decision on that we don't know?

                            Highlight - Smith's try was a gorgeous bit of salt in the wounds and if we'd won it would have made a great highlight vid paired up with the Wallas go at the same move. Especially if someone else hadn't acted the fucktard and could score a try like the Wallabies debut winger.

                            Smith
                            Beauden
                            Clarke
                            ALB
                            Goodhue
                            Reece
                            Jordie

                            Perenara
                            Mounga
                            Roane.

                            Jesus.......poor Bridge isn't even worth a mention.....

                            I have a memory of Nisbo going "beats his opposite number" and me smirking if that counts?

                            @booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            @MN5 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            @Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            Ok late to the party, here we go...

                            Frizzel, looked like he was finally going to step up in the first 15 mins, then faded pretty badly and became a background player.

                            Taylor - what happened to the guy that came in and replaced Coles and didn't miss a beat with being an attacking game changer?

                            Ofa - definitely needs to pick his moments better but was a shining light in our tight 5 physicality.

                            Tuipulotu - what happened to the barnstorming blues player? Melted into the background much like Frizzel.

                            Whitelock - surprised to see him getting grief, ball in hand he actually made a couple of really good runs into the defence, unfortunately it's offset by the amount of times (like the rest of the forwards) he gets the ball standing still 5m behind the gain line and has no chance. What the fuck is up with this pattern?

                            Savea - didn't look himself at all, is he injured? Getting dragged back by the opposition 9 who's probably the smallest in the oppo isn't exactly a good look for an 8.

                            Smith - again looked off his game, 80% of his game was there, but surprisingly lacked accuracy in his passing and decision making, especially early.

                            Mounga looked like a debutant out of his depth.

                            Goodhue - similar type of game to Whitelock, the rest has been said - he's a great centre and defender.

                            Roane - thought he had an excellent game for a debut centre, then he goes and fucks up that try, illustrating that uncontrollable ego that irks so many of us. Surely he could eat some humble pie by now?

                            DMac - about a hundred times better than any other footy he's played this year, but another one having that covered up by deadly errors.

                            Clarke - surely he's starting next match?

                            Sotutu - surely he's starting next match?

                            All in all, just so many fuck ups from a team that used to pride itself on accuracy.

                            The worst thing for me - it all played out exactly how many would have predicted from the dire team selected. How the fuck can average Joe see this shit and Foster can't. What is he making his decision on that we don't know?

                            Highlight - Smith's try was a gorgeous bit of salt in the wounds and if we'd won it would have made a great highlight vid paired up with the Wallas go at the same move. Especially if someone else hadn't acted the fucktard and could score a try like the Wallabies debut winger.

                            Smith
                            Beauden
                            Clarke
                            ALB
                            Goodhue
                            Reece
                            Jordie

                            Perenara
                            Mounga
                            Roane.

                            Jesus.......poor Bridge isn't even worth a mention.....

                            Who?

                            harsh and fair

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                              DC only kicked 8 DGs in his career, but I’ll bet that if he or Cruden we’re playing we’d have taken a shot.

                              In fact, even though Richie is the GOAT, the player we miss most is DC. You can’t be a WC national team without a first five that competes for the title of world’s best.

                              The other problem is that Mo’unga is taking a while to get established - by this time the recent greats (DC, Mehrts, Spencer) had already shown enough for it to be pretty certain that they were worth the investment (it’s two years since he’s been in the team, it was his 18th test and 11th start). I’m hoping that he’ll use this game in the same way that both Cruden and Slade bounced back from early shit tests.

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                                Bridge - look I thought he actually performed adequately - if Clarke hadn't come on I wouldn't have had a huge problem with his game. But the difference was stark. I think he probably still has a place, but maybe more against teams like the Boks or Ireland.

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                                  Bridge - look I thought he actually performed adequately - if Clarke hadn't come on I wouldn't have had a huge problem with his game. But the difference was stark. I think he probably still has a place, but maybe more against teams like the Boks or Ireland.

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                                  @Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                  Bridge - look I thought he actually performed adequately - if Clarke hadn't come on I wouldn't have had a huge problem with his game. But the difference was stark. I think he probably still has a place, but maybe more against teams like the Boks or Ireland.

                                  See that's my problem with him. He's adequate.

                                  Whereas our other left wing options are Clarke and Roane. Neither of which are merely "adequate".

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                                    @Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                    Bridge - look I thought he actually performed adequately - if Clarke hadn't come on I wouldn't have had a huge problem with his game. But the difference was stark. I think he probably still has a place, but maybe more against teams like the Boks or Ireland.

                                    See that's my problem with him. He's adequate.

                                    Whereas our other left wing options are Clarke and Roane. Neither of which are merely "adequate".

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                                    @booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                    @Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                    Bridge - look I thought he actually performed adequately - if Clarke hadn't come on I wouldn't have had a huge problem with his game. But the difference was stark. I think he probably still has a place, but maybe more against teams like the Boks or Ireland.

                                    See that's my problem with him. He's adequate.

                                    Whereas our other left wing options are Clarke and Roane. Neither of which are merely "adequate".

                                    Even Laumape looks hand out wide on the left...ask Beauds.

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                                      DC only kicked 8 DGs in his career, but I’ll bet that if he or Cruden we’re playing we’d have taken a shot.

                                      In fact, even though Richie is the GOAT, the player we miss most is DC. You can’t be a WC national team without a first five that competes for the title of world’s best.

                                      The other problem is that Mo’unga is taking a while to get established - by this time the recent greats (DC, Mehrts, Spencer) had already shown enough for it to be pretty certain that they were worth the investment (it’s two years since he’s been in the team, it was his 18th test and 11th start). I’m hoping that he’ll use this game in the same way that both Cruden and Slade bounced back from early shit tests.

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                                      @gt12 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      DC only kicked 8 DGs in his career, but I’ll bet that if he or Cruden we’re playing we’d have taken a shot.

                                      In fact, even though Richie is the GOAT, the player we miss most is DC. You can’t be a WC national team without a first five that competes for the title of world’s best.

                                      The other problem is that Mo’unga is taking a while to get established - by this time the recent greats (DC, Mehrts, Spencer) had already shown enough for it to be pretty certain that they were worth the investment (it’s two years since he’s been in the team, it was his 18th test and 11th start). I’m hoping that he’ll use this game in the same way that both Cruden and Slade bounced back from early shit tests.

                                      I agree. Richie had a poor game. Made a couple of things happen to get us down field (Ioane non-try and the late flurry), but he needs to improve.

                                      On Cruden, 1 drop goal in 50 tests.

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                                        For Bridge to be effective he needs to make up the difference with his high work rate, kick chase and strong defence. None of this was apparent on the weekend so you aren't left with very much.

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                                          @gt12 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                          DC only kicked 8 DGs in his career, but I’ll bet that if he or Cruden we’re playing we’d have taken a shot.

                                          In fact, even though Richie is the GOAT, the player we miss most is DC. You can’t be a WC national team without a first five that competes for the title of world’s best.

                                          The other problem is that Mo’unga is taking a while to get established - by this time the recent greats (DC, Mehrts, Spencer) had already shown enough for it to be pretty certain that they were worth the investment (it’s two years since he’s been in the team, it was his 18th test and 11th start). I’m hoping that he’ll use this game in the same way that both Cruden and Slade bounced back from early shit tests.

                                          I agree. Richie had a poor game. Made a couple of things happen to get us down field (Ioane non-try and the late flurry), but he needs to improve.

                                          On Cruden, 1 drop goal in 50 tests.

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                                          @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                          @gt12 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                          DC only kicked 8 DGs in his career, but I’ll bet that if he or Cruden we’re playing we’d have taken a shot.

                                          In fact, even though Richie is the GOAT, the player we miss most is DC. You can’t be a WC national team without a first five that competes for the title of world’s best.

                                          The other problem is that Mo’unga is taking a while to get established - by this time the recent greats (DC, Mehrts, Spencer) had already shown enough for it to be pretty certain that they were worth the investment (it’s two years since he’s been in the team, it was his 18th test and 11th start). I’m hoping that he’ll use this game in the same way that both Cruden and Slade bounced back from early shit tests.

                                          I agree. Richie had a poor game. Made a couple of things happen to get us down field (Ioane non-try and the late flurry), but he needs to improve.

                                          On Cruden, 1 drop goal in 50 tests.

                                          But oh so good.

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