Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11

[MiketheSnow]

Great match for the unencumbered

[booboo]

@sparky said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

Sparky's blame game

the tapes of Grant Batty, Bryan Williams, John Kirwan, Jonah Lomu and Doug Howlett scoring tries. Put the ball down with two hands carefully, then jog back to the middle.

Gunna disagree a smidge here.

Score a try is a good thing. Be happy.

Don't be a dick perhaps. (Fuck sake Reiko...)

But it's ok to celebrate.

[canefan]

@booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

@sparky said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

Sparky's blame game

the tapes of Grant Batty, Bryan Williams, John Kirwan, Jonah Lomu and Doug Howlett scoring tries. Put the ball down with two hands carefully, then jog back to the middle.

Gunna disagree a smidge here.

Score a try is a good thing. Be happy.

Don't be a dick perhaps. (Fuck sake Reiko...)

But it's ok to celebrate.

Much more acceptable these days, just keep it classy

[Bones]

Ok late to the party, here we go...

Frizzel, looked like he was finally going to step up in the first 15 mins, then faded pretty badly and became a background player.

Taylor - what happened to the guy that came in and replaced Coles and didn't miss a beat with being an attacking game changer?

Ofa - definitely needs to pick his moments better but was a shining light in our tight 5 physicality.

Tuipulotu - what happened to the barnstorming blues player? Melted into the background much like Frizzel.

Whitelock - surprised to see him getting grief, ball in hand he actually made a couple of really good runs into the defence, unfortunately it's offset by the amount of times (like the rest of the forwards) he gets the ball standing still 5m behind the gain line and has no chance. What the fuck is up with this pattern?

Savea - didn't look himself at all, is he injured? Getting dragged back by the opposition 9 who's probably the smallest in the oppo isn't exactly a good look for an 8.

Smith - again looked off his game, 80% of his game was there, but surprisingly lacked accuracy in his passing and decision making, especially early.

Mounga looked like a debutant out of his depth.

Goodhue - similar type of game to Whitelock, the rest has been said - he's a great centre and defender.

Roane - thought he had an excellent game for a debut centre, then he goes and fucks up that try, illustrating that uncontrollable ego that irks so many of us. Surely he could eat some humble pie by now?

DMac - about a hundred times better than any other footy he's played this year, but another one having that covered up by deadly errors.

Clarke - surely he's starting next match?

Sotutu - surely he's starting next match?

All in all, just so many fuck ups from a team that used to pride itself on accuracy.

The worst thing for me - it all played out exactly how many would have predicted from the dire team selected. How the fuck can average Joe see this shit and Foster can't. What is he making his decision on that we don't know?

Highlight - Smith's try was a gorgeous bit of salt in the wounds and if we'd won it would have made a great highlight vid paired up with the Wallas go at the same move. Especially if someone else hadn't acted the fucktard and could score a try like the Wallabies debut winger.

Smith
Beauden
Clarke
ALB
Goodhue
Reece
Jordie

Perenara
Mounga
Roane.

[booboo]

@canefan said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

@booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

@sparky said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

Sparky's blame game

the tapes of Grant Batty, Bryan Williams, John Kirwan, Jonah Lomu and Doug Howlett scoring tries. Put the ball down with two hands carefully, then jog back to the middle.

Gunna disagree a smidge here.

Score a try is a good thing. Be happy.

Don't be a dick perhaps. (Fuck sake Reiko...)

But it's ok to celebrate.

Much more acceptable these days, just keep it classy

Well at least score the try first ...

And just remember back in the 70s when we didn't celebrate tries we didn't win much...

[Bones]

Oh and right at the end, there was a disappointing degree of urgency and "wanting it" from so many in the team. The screenshots of Mounga are pretty cringey and I remember watching Jordie just walking about behind around the same time, not screaming into position and trying to organise anything. Everyone was just so lackadaisical.

[canefan]

@Bones the leadership group has not recovered since 2015

[MN5]

@Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

Ok late to the party, here we go...

Frizzel, looked like he was finally going to step up in the first 15 mins, then faded pretty badly and became a background player.

Taylor - what happened to the guy that came in and replaced Coles and didn't miss a beat with being an attacking game changer?

Ofa - definitely needs to pick his moments better but was a shining light in our tight 5 physicality.

Tuipulotu - what happened to the barnstorming blues player? Melted into the background much like Frizzel.

Whitelock - surprised to see him getting grief, ball in hand he actually made a couple of really good runs into the defence, unfortunately it's offset by the amount of times (like the rest of the forwards) he gets the ball standing still 5m behind the gain line and has no chance. What the fuck is up with this pattern?

Savea - didn't look himself at all, is he injured? Getting dragged back by the opposition 9 who's probably the smallest in the oppo isn't exactly a good look for an 8.

Smith - again looked off his game, 80% of his game was there, but surprisingly lacked accuracy in his passing and decision making, especially early.

Mounga looked like a debutant out of his depth.

Goodhue - similar type of game to Whitelock, the rest has been said - he's a great centre and defender.

Roane - thought he had an excellent game for a debut centre, then he goes and fucks up that try, illustrating that uncontrollable ego that irks so many of us. Surely he could eat some humble pie by now?

DMac - about a hundred times better than any other footy he's played this year, but another one having that covered up by deadly errors.

Clarke - surely he's starting next match?

Sotutu - surely he's starting next match?

All in all, just so many fuck ups from a team that used to pride itself on accuracy.

The worst thing for me - it all played out exactly how many would have predicted from the dire team selected. How the fuck can average Joe see this shit and Foster can't. What is he making his decision on that we don't know?

Highlight - Smith's try was a gorgeous bit of salt in the wounds and if we'd won it would have made a great highlight vid paired up with the Wallas go at the same move. Especially if someone else hadn't acted the fucktard and could score a try like the Wallabies debut winger.

Smith
Beauden
Clarke
ALB
Goodhue
Reece
Jordie

Perenara
Mounga
Roane.

Jesus.......poor Bridge isn't even worth a mention.....

[Bones]

@MN5 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

@Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

Ok late to the party, here we go...

Frizzel, looked like he was finally going to step up in the first 15 mins, then faded pretty badly and became a background player.

Taylor - what happened to the guy that came in and replaced Coles and didn't miss a beat with being an attacking game changer?

Ofa - definitely needs to pick his moments better but was a shining light in our tight 5 physicality.

Tuipulotu - what happened to the barnstorming blues player? Melted into the background much like Frizzel.

Whitelock - surprised to see him getting grief, ball in hand he actually made a couple of really good runs into the defence, unfortunately it's offset by the amount of times (like the rest of the forwards) he gets the ball standing still 5m behind the gain line and has no chance. What the fuck is up with this pattern?

Savea - didn't look himself at all, is he injured? Getting dragged back by the opposition 9 who's probably the smallest in the oppo isn't exactly a good look for an 8.

Smith - again looked off his game, 80% of his game was there, but surprisingly lacked accuracy in his passing and decision making, especially early.

Mounga looked like a debutant out of his depth.

Goodhue - similar type of game to Whitelock, the rest has been said - he's a great centre and defender.

Roane - thought he had an excellent game for a debut centre, then he goes and fucks up that try, illustrating that uncontrollable ego that irks so many of us. Surely he could eat some humble pie by now?

DMac - about a hundred times better than any other footy he's played this year, but another one having that covered up by deadly errors.

Clarke - surely he's starting next match?

Sotutu - surely he's starting next match?

All in all, just so many fuck ups from a team that used to pride itself on accuracy.

The worst thing for me - it all played out exactly how many would have predicted from the dire team selected. How the fuck can average Joe see this shit and Foster can't. What is he making his decision on that we don't know?

Highlight - Smith's try was a gorgeous bit of salt in the wounds and if we'd won it would have made a great highlight vid paired up with the Wallas go at the same move. Especially if someone else hadn't acted the fucktard and could score a try like the Wallabies debut winger.

Smith
Beauden
Clarke
ALB
Goodhue
Reece
Jordie

Perenara
Mounga
Roane.

Jesus.......poor Bridge isn't even worth a mention.....

I have a memory of Nisbo going "beats his opposite number" and me smirking if that counts?

[booboo]

@MN5 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

@Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

Ok late to the party, here we go...

Frizzel, looked like he was finally going to step up in the first 15 mins, then faded pretty badly and became a background player.

Taylor - what happened to the guy that came in and replaced Coles and didn't miss a beat with being an attacking game changer?

Ofa - definitely needs to pick his moments better but was a shining light in our tight 5 physicality.

Tuipulotu - what happened to the barnstorming blues player? Melted into the background much like Frizzel.

Whitelock - surprised to see him getting grief, ball in hand he actually made a couple of really good runs into the defence, unfortunately it's offset by the amount of times (like the rest of the forwards) he gets the ball standing still 5m behind the gain line and has no chance. What the fuck is up with this pattern?

Savea - didn't look himself at all, is he injured? Getting dragged back by the opposition 9 who's probably the smallest in the oppo isn't exactly a good look for an 8.

Smith - again looked off his game, 80% of his game was there, but surprisingly lacked accuracy in his passing and decision making, especially early.

Mounga looked like a debutant out of his depth.

Goodhue - similar type of game to Whitelock, the rest has been said - he's a great centre and defender.

Roane - thought he had an excellent game for a debut centre, then he goes and fucks up that try, illustrating that uncontrollable ego that irks so many of us. Surely he could eat some humble pie by now?

DMac - about a hundred times better than any other footy he's played this year, but another one having that covered up by deadly errors.

Clarke - surely he's starting next match?

Sotutu - surely he's starting next match?

All in all, just so many fuck ups from a team that used to pride itself on accuracy.

The worst thing for me - it all played out exactly how many would have predicted from the dire team selected. How the fuck can average Joe see this shit and Foster can't. What is he making his decision on that we don't know?

Highlight - Smith's try was a gorgeous bit of salt in the wounds and if we'd won it would have made a great highlight vid paired up with the Wallas go at the same move. Especially if someone else hadn't acted the fucktard and could score a try like the Wallabies debut winger.

Smith
Beauden
Clarke
ALB
Goodhue
Reece
Jordie

Perenara
Mounga
Roane.

Jesus.......poor Bridge isn't even worth a mention.....

Who?

[MN5]

@Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

@MN5 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

@Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

Ok late to the party, here we go...

Frizzel, looked like he was finally going to step up in the first 15 mins, then faded pretty badly and became a background player.

Taylor - what happened to the guy that came in and replaced Coles and didn't miss a beat with being an attacking game changer?

Ofa - definitely needs to pick his moments better but was a shining light in our tight 5 physicality.

Tuipulotu - what happened to the barnstorming blues player? Melted into the background much like Frizzel.

Whitelock - surprised to see him getting grief, ball in hand he actually made a couple of really good runs into the defence, unfortunately it's offset by the amount of times (like the rest of the forwards) he gets the ball standing still 5m behind the gain line and has no chance. What the fuck is up with this pattern?

Savea - didn't look himself at all, is he injured? Getting dragged back by the opposition 9 who's probably the smallest in the oppo isn't exactly a good look for an 8.

Smith - again looked off his game, 80% of his game was there, but surprisingly lacked accuracy in his passing and decision making, especially early.

Mounga looked like a debutant out of his depth.

Goodhue - similar type of game to Whitelock, the rest has been said - he's a great centre and defender.

Roane - thought he had an excellent game for a debut centre, then he goes and fucks up that try, illustrating that uncontrollable ego that irks so many of us. Surely he could eat some humble pie by now?

DMac - about a hundred times better than any other footy he's played this year, but another one having that covered up by deadly errors.

Clarke - surely he's starting next match?

Sotutu - surely he's starting next match?

All in all, just so many fuck ups from a team that used to pride itself on accuracy.

The worst thing for me - it all played out exactly how many would have predicted from the dire team selected. How the fuck can average Joe see this shit and Foster can't. What is he making his decision on that we don't know?

Highlight - Smith's try was a gorgeous bit of salt in the wounds and if we'd won it would have made a great highlight vid paired up with the Wallas go at the same move. Especially if someone else hadn't acted the fucktard and could score a try like the Wallabies debut winger.

Smith
Beauden
Clarke
ALB
Goodhue
Reece
Jordie

Perenara
Mounga
Roane.

Jesus.......poor Bridge isn't even worth a mention.....

I have a memory of Nisbo going "beats his opposite number" and me smirking if that counts?

@booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

@MN5 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

@Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

Ok late to the party, here we go...

Frizzel, looked like he was finally going to step up in the first 15 mins, then faded pretty badly and became a background player.

Taylor - what happened to the guy that came in and replaced Coles and didn't miss a beat with being an attacking game changer?

Ofa - definitely needs to pick his moments better but was a shining light in our tight 5 physicality.

Tuipulotu - what happened to the barnstorming blues player? Melted into the background much like Frizzel.

Whitelock - surprised to see him getting grief, ball in hand he actually made a couple of really good runs into the defence, unfortunately it's offset by the amount of times (like the rest of the forwards) he gets the ball standing still 5m behind the gain line and has no chance. What the fuck is up with this pattern?

Savea - didn't look himself at all, is he injured? Getting dragged back by the opposition 9 who's probably the smallest in the oppo isn't exactly a good look for an 8.

Smith - again looked off his game, 80% of his game was there, but surprisingly lacked accuracy in his passing and decision making, especially early.

Mounga looked like a debutant out of his depth.

Goodhue - similar type of game to Whitelock, the rest has been said - he's a great centre and defender.

Roane - thought he had an excellent game for a debut centre, then he goes and fucks up that try, illustrating that uncontrollable ego that irks so many of us. Surely he could eat some humble pie by now?

DMac - about a hundred times better than any other footy he's played this year, but another one having that covered up by deadly errors.

Clarke - surely he's starting next match?

Sotutu - surely he's starting next match?

All in all, just so many fuck ups from a team that used to pride itself on accuracy.

The worst thing for me - it all played out exactly how many would have predicted from the dire team selected. How the fuck can average Joe see this shit and Foster can't. What is he making his decision on that we don't know?

Highlight - Smith's try was a gorgeous bit of salt in the wounds and if we'd won it would have made a great highlight vid paired up with the Wallas go at the same move. Especially if someone else hadn't acted the fucktard and could score a try like the Wallabies debut winger.

Smith
Beauden
Clarke
ALB
Goodhue
Reece
Jordie

Perenara
Mounga
Roane.

Jesus.......poor Bridge isn't even worth a mention.....

Who?

harsh and fair

[gt12]

DC only kicked 8 DGs in his career, but I’ll bet that if he or Cruden we’re playing we’d have taken a shot.

In fact, even though Richie is the GOAT, the player we miss most is DC. You can’t be a WC national team without a first five that competes for the title of world’s best.

The other problem is that Mo’unga is taking a while to get established - by this time the recent greats (DC, Mehrts, Spencer) had already shown enough for it to be pretty certain that they were worth the investment (it’s two years since he’s been in the team, it was his 18th test and 11th start). I’m hoping that he’ll use this game in the same way that both Cruden and Slade bounced back from early shit tests.

[Bones]

Bridge - look I thought he actually performed adequately - if Clarke hadn't come on I wouldn't have had a huge problem with his game. But the difference was stark. I think he probably still has a place, but maybe more against teams like the Boks or Ireland.

[booboo]

@Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

Bridge - look I thought he actually performed adequately - if Clarke hadn't come on I wouldn't have had a huge problem with his game. But the difference was stark. I think he probably still has a place, but maybe more against teams like the Boks or Ireland.

See that's my problem with him. He's adequate.

Whereas our other left wing options are Clarke and Roane. Neither of which are merely "adequate".

[Bones]

@booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

@Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

Bridge - look I thought he actually performed adequately - if Clarke hadn't come on I wouldn't have had a huge problem with his game. But the difference was stark. I think he probably still has a place, but maybe more against teams like the Boks or Ireland.

See that's my problem with him. He's adequate.

Whereas our other left wing options are Clarke and Roane. Neither of which are merely "adequate".

Even Laumape looks hand out wide on the left...ask Beauds.

[ACT Crusader]

@gt12 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

DC only kicked 8 DGs in his career, but I’ll bet that if he or Cruden we’re playing we’d have taken a shot.

In fact, even though Richie is the GOAT, the player we miss most is DC. You can’t be a WC national team without a first five that competes for the title of world’s best.

The other problem is that Mo’unga is taking a while to get established - by this time the recent greats (DC, Mehrts, Spencer) had already shown enough for it to be pretty certain that they were worth the investment (it’s two years since he’s been in the team, it was his 18th test and 11th start). I’m hoping that he’ll use this game in the same way that both Cruden and Slade bounced back from early shit tests.

I agree. Richie had a poor game. Made a couple of things happen to get us down field (Ioane non-try and the late flurry), but he needs to improve.

On Cruden, 1 drop goal in 50 tests.

[KiwiMurph]

For Bridge to be effective he needs to make up the difference with his high work rate, kick chase and strong defence. None of this was apparent on the weekend so you aren't left with very much.

[booboo]

@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

@gt12 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

DC only kicked 8 DGs in his career, but I’ll bet that if he or Cruden we’re playing we’d have taken a shot.

In fact, even though Richie is the GOAT, the player we miss most is DC. You can’t be a WC national team without a first five that competes for the title of world’s best.

The other problem is that Mo’unga is taking a while to get established - by this time the recent greats (DC, Mehrts, Spencer) had already shown enough for it to be pretty certain that they were worth the investment (it’s two years since he’s been in the team, it was his 18th test and 11th start). I’m hoping that he’ll use this game in the same way that both Cruden and Slade bounced back from early shit tests.

I agree. Richie had a poor game. Made a couple of things happen to get us down field (Ioane non-try and the late flurry), but he needs to improve.

On Cruden, 1 drop goal in 50 tests.

But oh so good.

[Bones]

@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

For Bridge to be effective he needs to make up the difference with his high work rate, kick chase and strong defence. None of this was apparent on the weekend so you aren't left with very much.

Yeah spot on - he needs to be contesting every kick and winning most, not standing off watching or knocking it on when he does attempt.

[ACT Crusader]

@booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

@gt12 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

DC only kicked 8 DGs in his career, but I’ll bet that if he or Cruden we’re playing we’d have taken a shot.

In fact, even though Richie is the GOAT, the player we miss most is DC. You can’t be a WC national team without a first five that competes for the title of world’s best.

The other problem is that Mo’unga is taking a while to get established - by this time the recent greats (DC, Mehrts, Spencer) had already shown enough for it to be pretty certain that they were worth the investment (it’s two years since he’s been in the team, it was his 18th test and 11th start). I’m hoping that he’ll use this game in the same way that both Cruden and Slade bounced back from early shit tests.

I agree. Richie had a poor game. Made a couple of things happen to get us down field (Ioane non-try and the late flurry), but he needs to improve.

On Cruden, 1 drop goal in 50 tests.

But oh so good.

His opposite kicked one in that game too.