Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11
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@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Just listening to Fozzie and he says about Jordie...'No doubt he was the form 15 this year, that's why he's on the field'
But he's not playing 15 you twit!thats shit f's me off
@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Just listening to Fozzie and he says about Jordie...'No doubt he was the form 15 this year, that's why he's on the field'
But he's not playing 15 you twit!thats shit f's me off
welcome! welcome! welcome to Chiefs land, circa 2000s! i hope you all enjoy your stay
@Donsteppa i bet they all thought we were over-egging it then too
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@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Just listening to Fozzie and he says about Jordie...'No doubt he was the form 15 this year, that's why he's on the field'
But he's not playing 15 you twit!thats shit f's me off
welcome! welcome! welcome to Chiefs land, circa 2000s! i hope you all enjoy your stay
@Donsteppa i bet they all thought we were over-egging it then too
@mariner4life i got enough if it with Bender being played on the wing
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Going against the grain here, I'm fine with the 14/15 selections. As I said a few days ago, BB is just way too good, even in current not-his-best form, to only play 30minutes. He needs to be there for 80, Md he is fit enough that he can still provide spark at the end without needing to have fresh legs.
JB also deserves a start, as he has been in great form, and provides a real point of difference with his size and place kicking from distance. I expect a few high balls to be sent to his wing in attack.
I dislike JG at 12, and Bridge is uninspiring. And I would def have started Sotutu and brought Savea off the bench for 35 minutes at whatever loose position he could best serve.
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Going against the grain here, I'm fine with the 14/15 selections. As I said a few days ago, BB is just way too good, even in current not-his-best form, to only play 30minutes. He needs to be there for 80, Md he is fit enough that he can still provide spark at the end without needing to have fresh legs.
JB also deserves a start, as he has been in great form, and provides a real point of difference with his size and place kicking from distance. I expect a few high balls to be sent to his wing in attack.
I dislike JG at 12, and Bridge is uninspiring. And I would def have started Sotutu and brought Savea off the bench for 35 minutes at whatever loose position he could best serve.
@voodoo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Going against the grain here, I'm fine with the 14/15 selections. As I said a few days ago, BB is just way too good, even in current not-his-best form, to only play 30minutes. He needs to be there for 80, Md he is fit enough that he can still provide spark at the end without needing to have fresh legs.
JB also deserves a start, as he has been in great form, and provides a real point of difference with his size and place kicking from distance. I expect a few high balls to be sent to his wing in attack.
I dislike JG at 12, and Bridge is uninspiring. And I would def have started Sotutu and brought Savea off the bench for 35 minutes at whatever loose position he could best serve.
so play Jordie at 12! he'll be better than bloody Goodhue there.
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Going against the grain here, I'm fine with the 14/15 selections. As I said a few days ago, BB is just way too good, even in current not-his-best form, to only play 30minutes. He needs to be there for 80, Md he is fit enough that he can still provide spark at the end without needing to have fresh legs.
JB also deserves a start, as he has been in great form, and provides a real point of difference with his size and place kicking from distance. I expect a few high balls to be sent to his wing in attack.
I dislike JG at 12, and Bridge is uninspiring. And I would def have started Sotutu and brought Savea off the bench for 35 minutes at whatever loose position he could best serve.
@voodoo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Going against the grain here, I'm fine with the 14/15 selections. As I said a few days ago, BB is just way too good, even in current not-his-best form, to only play 30minutes. He needs to be there for 80, Md he is fit enough that he can still provide spark at the end without needing to have fresh legs.
JB also deserves a start, as he has been in great form, and provides a real point of difference with his size and place kicking from distance. I expect a few high balls to be sent to his wing in attack.
I dislike JG at 12, and Bridge is uninspiring. And I would def have started Sotutu and brought Savea off the bench for 35 minutes at whatever loose position he could best serve.
get back in isolation, you are obviously ill
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@mariner4life i got enough if it with Bender being played on the wing
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get fucked
our 3rd best 8. picking two 7s.
the best fullback shunted to the wing in order to select the 2nd best fullback
neither of the two wingers are really the best in the countryand it's one of the last physically imposing back 3s i have ever seen
this is a shit team selected by fuckheads.
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The only position I can't fathom is Jack at 12, but then again ALB was hardly inspiring during SRA. The rest make sense given the new coaching staff, debutants in the squad and odd build-up. I think they want to ease the squad into Tests and new structures.
A good win and they can start to look at moving further down the path. Had Fozzie & Co. selected a raft of debutants and lost, you'd all be screaming anyway.
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@voodoo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Going against the grain here, I'm fine with the 14/15 selections. As I said a few days ago, BB is just way too good, even in current not-his-best form, to only play 30minutes. He needs to be there for 80, Md he is fit enough that he can still provide spark at the end without needing to have fresh legs.
JB also deserves a start, as he has been in great form, and provides a real point of difference with his size and place kicking from distance. I expect a few high balls to be sent to his wing in attack.
I dislike JG at 12, and Bridge is uninspiring. And I would def have started Sotutu and brought Savea off the bench for 35 minutes at whatever loose position he could best serve.
so play Jordie at 12! he'll be better than bloody Goodhue there.
@nzzp said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@voodoo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Going against the grain here, I'm fine with the 14/15 selections. As I said a few days ago, BB is just way too good, even in current not-his-best form, to only play 30minutes. He needs to be there for 80, Md he is fit enough that he can still provide spark at the end without needing to have fresh legs.
JB also deserves a start, as he has been in great form, and provides a real point of difference with his size and place kicking from distance. I expect a few high balls to be sent to his wing in attack.
I dislike JG at 12, and Bridge is uninspiring. And I would def have started Sotutu and brought Savea off the bench for 35 minutes at whatever loose position he could best serve.
so play Jordie at 12! he'll be better than bloody Goodhue there.
And you know that because .... he has played so often at 12 in recent years?
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@Kiwiwomble For Bender the wing wasn't an unnatural position though, as he started there at the Highlanders. They only moved him to fullback when Dagg left.
@Stargazer see, i see that as he was moved out of position for Dagg too
either way he played so much better at 15...but kept getting put at 14 to fit in others
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@mariner4life should still be more than adequate to see off a young Wallabies side with a new coach at home.
@Derpus said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@mariner4life should still be more than adequate to see off a young Wallabies side with a new coach at home.
that's setting a very low bar of expectation
also, i really rate your coach. I remember how short a space of time it took him to turn around the Chiefs (like 3 weeks). And what he was able to do with the talent available. Those title winning Chiefs sides were much greater than the sum of their parts.
You also have some good young talent, and you've selected them. Right now, in the phony war stage, you blokes should be much happier.
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In isolation I do not mind Jordie on the wing. He’s got a bit of early Ben Smith to him and back when Dagg was in form the Smith / Dagg combo worked very well.
But Beaudie really needs to up his game from anything we have seen this year. He’s a class player no doubt.
I’d be interested in what gameplan is deployed with this back 3 (plus Richie).
Congrats to Clarke.
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im excited to see a fresh legged Clarke running through a tired aussie backline
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@nzzp said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@voodoo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Going against the grain here, I'm fine with the 14/15 selections. As I said a few days ago, BB is just way too good, even in current not-his-best form, to only play 30minutes. He needs to be there for 80, Md he is fit enough that he can still provide spark at the end without needing to have fresh legs.
JB also deserves a start, as he has been in great form, and provides a real point of difference with his size and place kicking from distance. I expect a few high balls to be sent to his wing in attack.
I dislike JG at 12, and Bridge is uninspiring. And I would def have started Sotutu and brought Savea off the bench for 35 minutes at whatever loose position he could best serve.
so play Jordie at 12! he'll be better than bloody Goodhue there.
And you know that because .... he has played so often at 12 in recent years?
@Stargazer said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@nzzp said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@voodoo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Going against the grain here, I'm fine with the 14/15 selections. As I said a few days ago, BB is just way too good, even in current not-his-best form, to only play 30minutes. He needs to be there for 80, Md he is fit enough that he can still provide spark at the end without needing to have fresh legs.
JB also deserves a start, as he has been in great form, and provides a real point of difference with his size and place kicking from distance. I expect a few high balls to be sent to his wing in attack.
I dislike JG at 12, and Bridge is uninspiring. And I would def have started Sotutu and brought Savea off the bench for 35 minutes at whatever loose position he could best serve.
so play Jordie at 12! he'll be better than bloody Goodhue there.
And you know that because .... he has played so often at 12 in recent years?
I don't bloody know that, but playing him out of position and taking up a wing spot ... you may as well play him out of position and replace another out of position player, and let a proper right wing play.
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@Derpus said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@mariner4life should still be more than adequate to see off a young Wallabies side with a new coach at home.
that's setting a very low bar of expectation
also, i really rate your coach. I remember how short a space of time it took him to turn around the Chiefs (like 3 weeks). And what he was able to do with the talent available. Those title winning Chiefs sides were much greater than the sum of their parts.
You also have some good young talent, and you've selected them. Right now, in the phony war stage, you blokes should be much happier.
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Derpus said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@mariner4life should still be more than adequate to see off a young Wallabies side with a new coach at home.
that's setting a very low bar of expectation
also, i really rate your coach. I remember how short a space of time it took him to turn around the Chiefs (like 3 weeks). And what he was able to do with the talent available. Those title winning Chiefs sides were much greater than the sum of their parts.
You also have some good young talent, and you've selected them. Right now, in the phony war stage, you blokes should be much happier.
It’s the only bar in town though.
Usually we’ve had an opportunity against a tier 2 side and then a couple of tests against a NH side to try a few different things.
Our record against OZ over the past 16 years of holding Bledisloe is undeniable, they do challenge us and Rennie will bring something different to MC.
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In isolation I do not mind Jordie on the wing. He’s got a bit of early Ben Smith to him and back when Dagg was in form the Smith / Dagg combo worked very well.
But Beaudie really needs to up his game from anything we have seen this year. He’s a class player no doubt.
I’d be interested in what gameplan is deployed with this back 3 (plus Richie).
Congrats to Clarke.
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I think a lot of people underestimate the Wallabies. They have some really good players coming through; sure, they're rookies, but so are some of ours. The biggest difference compared to previous years is Rennie. I have higher expectations of the Aussies now.
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@ACT-Crusader Our back three a fairly short so seems they'll be box/bombing it all day long.
As an aside: only 2 players from the last 15 against England have been retained.
@Derpus said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@ACT-Crusader Our back three a fairly short so seems they'll be box/bombing it all day long.
Our back 3 all over 6 foot, all good in the air and both Bridge and Jordie good on the chase.
Jordie has started and finished tests, albeit in a limited career, on the wing.
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So looks like Team Hansen and Team Foster see Goodhue as a long term fixture in our midfield, though most (here at least) see his best position as 13, not 12.
I hope he goes well,because his game with Ioane outside could be devastating.
