Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11
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- James Slipper (96 Tests)
- Folau Fainga’a (12 Tests)
- Taniela Tupou (19 Tests)
- Lukhan Salakaia-Loto (21 Tests)
- Matt Philip (3 Tests)
- Harry Wilson*
- Michael Hooper (c) (99 Tests)
- Pete Samu (9 Tests)
- Nic White (31 Tests)
- James O’Connor (52 Tests)
- Marika Koroibete (28 Tests)
- Matt To’omua (52 Tests)
- Hunter Paisami*
- Filipo Daugunu*
- Tom Banks (6 Tests)
Replacements
16. Jordan Uelese (9 Tests)
17. Scott Sio (63 Tests)
18. Allan Alaalatoa (35 Tests)
19. Rob Simmons (100 Tests)
20. Rob Valetini (1 Test)
21. Jake Gordon (1 Test)
22. Noah Lolesio*
23. Reece Hodge (39 Tests)3 debutants in the XV and another on the bench. Gotta say the lack of McDermott surprises me.
Hooper's 100th Test at the ripe old age of 28.
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- James Slipper (96 Tests)
- Folau Fainga’a (12 Tests)
- Taniela Tupou (19 Tests)
- Lukhan Salakaia-Loto (21 Tests)
- Matt Philip (3 Tests)
- Harry Wilson*
- Michael Hooper (c) (99 Tests)
- Pete Samu (9 Tests)
- Nic White (31 Tests)
- James O’Connor (52 Tests)
- Marika Koroibete (28 Tests)
- Matt To’omua (52 Tests)
- Hunter Paisami*
- Filipo Daugunu*
- Tom Banks (6 Tests)
Replacements
16. Jordan Uelese (9 Tests)
17. Scott Sio (63 Tests)
18. Allan Alaalatoa (35 Tests)
19. Rob Simmons (100 Tests)
20. Rob Valetini (1 Test)
21. Jake Gordon (1 Test)
22. Noah Lolesio*
23. Reece Hodge (39 Tests)3 debutants in the XV and another on the bench. Gotta say the lack of McDermott surprises me.
Hooper's 100th Test at the ripe old age of 28.
@NTA Surprised to see Tupou starting. He's displayed a tendency to lose the ball in contact and I'm not certain he's a better scrummager than Sio.
Also that backrow doesn't look very tall. Has Wilson played much blindside?
Also surprised to see White starting.
JOC played well this year for the Reds. To'omua is safe at 12 and offers a genuine second playmaker. I don't think much of Paisami. Banks has a big boot on him which will come in handy in the wet.
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@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
A couple of things have crossed my mind as possible selection explanations.
Goodhue has possibly become Mounga's tackling proxy and Foster has followed Razor's lead.
BB is at 15 to move up to 10 in defensive sequences. Expect to see RM dropping to 15 a lot instead of shuffling out.
It was that shuffling out that Eddie Jones identified and targeted to great effect.
That explains Goodhue at 12, BB at 15 and JB being too good to leave out. Bridge is still a mystery.
Bridge is less of a mystery if we are going to kick a bit. Also he is good running off the shoulder of Mo’unga who is attacking the line from 1st 5 far more than Beaudie is these days.
I’m hopeful that a fired up Cane and Tuipoluto and a better outing from our front collectively will have us in better shape than the RWC semi.
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
A couple of things have crossed my mind as possible selection explanations.
Goodhue has possibly become Mounga's tackling proxy and Foster has followed Razor's lead.
BB is at 15 to move up to 10 in defensive sequences. Expect to see RM dropping to 15 a lot instead of shuffling out.
It was that shuffling out that Eddie Jones identified and targeted to great effect.
That explains Goodhue at 12, BB at 15 and JB being too good to leave out. Bridge is still a mystery.
Bridge is less of a mystery if we are going to kick a bit. Also he is good running off the shoulder of Mo’unga who is attacking the line from 1st 5 far more than Beaudie is these days.
I’m hopeful that a fired up Cane and Tuipoluto and a better outing from our front collectively will have us in better shape than the RWC semi.
Hmmm ... I see an issue
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@NTA @barbarian are you guys happy with the Wallaby team selected? Any big omissions?
@Toddy said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@NTA @barbarian are you guys happy with the Wallaby team selected? Any big omissions?
No real shocks or big omissions. It's probably our best XV given the injuries to DHP and Petaia.
Paisami at 13 worries me a bit, has a tendency to get caught out in defence. But besides him it's a really solid backline.
The pack will be our weakness, especially 4-8. Really green, quite mobile but maybe too light. I wonder where our big hits will come from outside of Taniela Tupou.
I don't expect them to win, or get particularly close. I reckon they keep it close for the first 60 and then the ABs put on a few late tries.
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@NTA Surprised to see Tupou starting. He's displayed a tendency to lose the ball in contact and I'm not certain he's a better scrummager than Sio.
Also that backrow doesn't look very tall. Has Wilson played much blindside?
Also surprised to see White starting.
JOC played well this year for the Reds. To'omua is safe at 12 and offers a genuine second playmaker. I don't think much of Paisami. Banks has a big boot on him which will come in handy in the wet.
@antipodean said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@NTA Surprised to see Tupou starting. He's displayed a tendency to lose the ball in contact and I'm not certain he's a better scrummager than Sio.
I thought they played different sides?
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@NTA Surprised to see Tupou starting. He's displayed a tendency to lose the ball in contact and I'm not certain he's a better scrummager than Sio.
Also that backrow doesn't look very tall. Has Wilson played much blindside?
Also surprised to see White starting.
JOC played well this year for the Reds. To'omua is safe at 12 and offers a genuine second playmaker. I don't think much of Paisami. Banks has a big boot on him which will come in handy in the wet.
@antipodean said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@NTA Surprised to see Tupou starting. He's displayed a tendency to lose the ball in contact and I'm not certain he's a better scrummager than Sio.
Also that backrow doesn't look very tall. Has Wilson played much blindside?
Tupou IMO was the best player in SuperAU, despite his weaknesses. Huge motor, and just makes big plays right across the field.
And Wilson played blindside throughout the Under 20s IIRC, so I don't think he's new to it.
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@antipodean said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@NTA Surprised to see Tupou starting. He's displayed a tendency to lose the ball in contact and I'm not certain he's a better scrummager than Sio.
I thought they played different sides?
@booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@antipodean said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@NTA Surprised to see Tupou starting. He's displayed a tendency to lose the ball in contact and I'm not certain he's a better scrummager than Sio.
I thought they played different sides?
You're right - Sio is a loosehead. So Alaalatoa sits on the pine for Tupou.
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See ... given we all rate Dave Rennie ...
“I thought Anton Lienert-Brown would be at No 12, maybe move Jack Goodhue out and have Rieko on the wing.
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@NTA Surprised to see Tupou starting. He's displayed a tendency to lose the ball in contact and I'm not certain he's a better scrummager than Sio.
Also that backrow doesn't look very tall. Has Wilson played much blindside?
Also surprised to see White starting.
JOC played well this year for the Reds. To'omua is safe at 12 and offers a genuine second playmaker. I don't think much of Paisami. Banks has a big boot on him which will come in handy in the wet.
@antipodean said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@NTA Surprised to see Tupou starting. He's displayed a tendency to lose the ball in contact and I'm not certain he's a better scrummager than Sio.
Also that backrow doesn't look very tall. Has Wilson played much blindside?
Also surprised to see White starting.
JOC played well this year for the Reds. To'omua is safe at 12 and offers a genuine second playmaker. I don't think much of Paisami. Banks has a big boot on him which will come in handy in the wet.
JOC and To’omua could be a very good combination. Real shame about Jordan’s injury. I spoke with his cousin last night and he is very disappointed because the sense of opportunity with new coach, in very good form and a chance to solidify his spot.
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i kind of hope aussie do well, rugby was good when things were a bit closer between the two, a strong aussie might mean we get a good super comp sorted
@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
i kind of hope aussie do well, rugby was good when things were a bit closer between the two, a strong aussie might mean we get a good super comp sorted
Wash your mouth out with soap!!!!! I far prefer the All Blacks sticking at least 50 points on the Wallabies (by halftime preferably) than any close run affair.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
i kind of hope aussie do well, rugby was good when things were a bit closer between the two, a strong aussie might mean we get a good super comp sorted
Wash your mouth out with soap!!!!! I far prefer the All Blacks sticking at least 50 points on the Wallabies (by halftime preferably) than any close run affair.
@Higgins said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
i kind of hope aussie do well, rugby was good when things were a bit closer between the two, a strong aussie might mean we get a good super comp sorted
Wash your mouth out with soap!!!!! I far prefer the All Blacks sticking at least 50 points on the Wallabies (by halftime preferably) than any close run affair.
those heartbreaking Bledisloe losses were like two decades ago!
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@bayimports said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Anyone want a bet this is starting XV?
Moody, Taylor, Tuungafasi, Tuipulotu, Whitelock, Frizell, Cane (cpt), Savea, Smith, Mounga, Bridge, Goodhue, Ioane, J.Barrett, B.Barrett.
Let’s just say not my pick, but wouldn’t bet against it
Good sauce.
@akan004 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@bayimports said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Anyone want a bet this is starting XV?
Moody, Taylor, Tuungafasi, Tuipulotu, Whitelock, Frizell, Cane (cpt), Savea, Smith, Mounga, Bridge, Goodhue, Ioane, J.Barrett, B.Barrett.
Let’s just say not my pick, but wouldn’t bet against it
Good sauce.
Thanks mate, wish I liked the team. Sauce was accurate all through World Cup too, although next time might just send to any regular Ferners who ask, just in case the journos start sniffing and pretending they have the oil
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@Higgins said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
i kind of hope aussie do well, rugby was good when things were a bit closer between the two, a strong aussie might mean we get a good super comp sorted
Wash your mouth out with soap!!!!! I far prefer the All Blacks sticking at least 50 points on the Wallabies (by halftime preferably) than any close run affair.
those heartbreaking Bledisloe losses were like two decades ago!
@mariner4life Some of us are still struggling to get over Cardiff Arms Park in 1905!
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@mariner4life Some of us are still struggling to get over Cardiff Arms Park in 1905!
@Higgins said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@mariner4life Some of us are still struggling to get over Cardiff Arms Park in 1905!
some of us need to sort their lives out...
having said that, Matt Carrington stepped on the dead ball line in '96
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Best thing about the team is D Mac is nowhere to be seen.
BB will need a big game and perhaps he might produce.
Nothing should motivate an older brother like your younger brother taking your test spot.Ball running power needs to come from Patty T and Ofa. I hope Fozzie has figured out a plan on how to use them.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
A couple of things have crossed my mind as possible selection explanations.
Goodhue has possibly become Mounga's tackling proxy and Foster has followed Razor's lead.
BB is at 15 to move up to 10 in defensive sequences. Expect to see RM dropping to 15 a lot instead of shuffling out.
It was that shuffling out that Eddie Jones identified and targeted to great effect.
That explains Goodhue at 12, BB at 15 and JB being too good to leave out. Bridge is still a mystery.
Bridge is less of a mystery if we are going to kick a bit. Also he is good running off the shoulder of Mo’unga who is attacking the line from 1st 5 far more than Beaudie is these days.
I’m hopeful that a fired up Cane and Tuipoluto and a better outing from our front collectively will have us in better shape than the RWC semi.
He runs off RMs shoulder but makes as much ground as Owen Franks.
Those little half gaps don't appear as much in test footy for him to exploit.He’s scored tries at test level in the middle of the park and through traffic.
Plus the cross field kick combo with Richie is good also.
But....but...he's just so 'Ralph'
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
A couple of things have crossed my mind as possible selection explanations.
Goodhue has possibly become Mounga's tackling proxy and Foster has followed Razor's lead.
BB is at 15 to move up to 10 in defensive sequences. Expect to see RM dropping to 15 a lot instead of shuffling out.
It was that shuffling out that Eddie Jones identified and targeted to great effect.
That explains Goodhue at 12, BB at 15 and JB being too good to leave out. Bridge is still a mystery.
Bridge is less of a mystery if we are going to kick a bit. Also he is good running off the shoulder of Mo’unga who is attacking the line from 1st 5 far more than Beaudie is these days.
I’m hopeful that a fired up Cane and Tuipoluto and a better outing from our front collectively will have us in better shape than the RWC semi.
He runs off RMs shoulder but makes as much ground as Owen Franks.
Those little half gaps don't appear as much in test footy for him to exploit.He’s scored tries at test level in the middle of the park and through traffic.
Plus the cross field kick combo with Richie is good also.
But....but...he's just so 'Howlett'
fixed.
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@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
A couple of things have crossed my mind as possible selection explanations.
Goodhue has possibly become Mounga's tackling proxy and Foster has followed Razor's lead.
BB is at 15 to move up to 10 in defensive sequences. Expect to see RM dropping to 15 a lot instead of shuffling out.
It was that shuffling out that Eddie Jones identified and targeted to great effect.
That explains Goodhue at 12, BB at 15 and JB being too good to leave out. Bridge is still a mystery.
Bridge is less of a mystery if we are going to kick a bit. Also he is good running off the shoulder of Mo’unga who is attacking the line from 1st 5 far more than Beaudie is these days.
I’m hopeful that a fired up Cane and Tuipoluto and a better outing from our front collectively will have us in better shape than the RWC semi.
He runs off RMs shoulder but makes as much ground as Owen Franks.
Those little half gaps don't appear as much in test footy for him to exploit.He’s scored tries at test level in the middle of the park and through traffic.
Plus the cross field kick combo with Richie is good also.
But....but...he's just so 'Howlett'
fixed.
@shark said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
A couple of things have crossed my mind as possible selection explanations.
Goodhue has possibly become Mounga's tackling proxy and Foster has followed Razor's lead.
BB is at 15 to move up to 10 in defensive sequences. Expect to see RM dropping to 15 a lot instead of shuffling out.
It was that shuffling out that Eddie Jones identified and targeted to great effect.
That explains Goodhue at 12, BB at 15 and JB being too good to leave out. Bridge is still a mystery.
Bridge is less of a mystery if we are going to kick a bit. Also he is good running off the shoulder of Mo’unga who is attacking the line from 1st 5 far more than Beaudie is these days.
I’m hopeful that a fired up Cane and Tuipoluto and a better outing from our front collectively will have us in better shape than the RWC semi.
He runs off RMs shoulder but makes as much ground as Owen Franks.
Those little half gaps don't appear as much in test footy for him to exploit.He’s scored tries at test level in the middle of the park and through traffic.
Plus the cross field kick combo with Richie is good also.
But....but...he's just so 'Howlett'
fixed.
Many a next great thing has come and gone and not beaten Howlett's record. I don't think Bridge will be the one.
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The only position I can't fathom is Jack at 12, but then again ALB was hardly inspiring during SRA. The rest make sense given the new coaching staff, debutants in the squad and odd build-up. I think they want to ease the squad into Tests and new structures.
A good win and they can start to look at moving further down the path. Had Fozzie & Co. selected a raft of debutants and lost, you'd all be screaming anyway.
@antipodean said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
The only position I can't fathom is Jack at 12, but then again ALB was hardly inspiring during SRA. The rest make sense given the new coaching staff, debutants in the squad and odd build-up. I think they want to ease the squad into Tests and new structures.
A good win and they can start to look at moving further down the path. Had Fozzie & Co. selected a raft of debutants and lost, you'd all be screaming anyway.
The last time we all unanimously agreed that they picked the right players we got belted in Perth.
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