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Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October

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  • CrucialC Crucial

    @Snowy said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

    @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

    thoughts on the AB's alternate strip,

    As long as it's not fucking grey.

    Or 'Silver' :confounded_face: :confounded_face:

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    @Crucial said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

    @Snowy said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

    @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

    thoughts on the AB's alternate strip,

    As long as it's not fucking grey.

    Or 'Silver' :confounded_face: :confounded_face:

    Silver isn't a colour it's a metal - grey is a colour. Just the same as gold is a metal, and yellow is a colour.

    It confuses Australians all the time.

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    • SnowyS Snowy

      @Crucial said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

      @Snowy said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

      @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

      thoughts on the AB's alternate strip,

      As long as it's not fucking grey.

      Or 'Silver' :confounded_face: :confounded_face:

      Silver isn't a colour it's a metal - grey is a colour. Just the same as gold is a metal, and yellow is a colour.

      It confuses Australians all the time.

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      @Snowy said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

      @Crucial said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

      @Snowy said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

      @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

      thoughts on the AB's alternate strip,

      As long as it's not fucking grey.

      Or 'Silver' :confounded_face: :confounded_face:

      Silver isn't a colour it's a metal - grey is a colour. Just the same as gold is a metal, and yellow is a colour.

      It confuses Australians all the time.

      It cracked me up when I learned that the colour Aussies insist on calling Gold (from their beloved Green and Gold) had a Pantone code with the name 'Yellow'

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      • CrucialC Crucial

        @Snowy said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

        @Crucial said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

        @Snowy said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

        @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

        thoughts on the AB's alternate strip,

        As long as it's not fucking grey.

        Or 'Silver' :confounded_face: :confounded_face:

        Silver isn't a colour it's a metal - grey is a colour. Just the same as gold is a metal, and yellow is a colour.

        It confuses Australians all the time.

        It cracked me up when I learned that the colour Aussies insist on calling Gold (from their beloved Green and Gold) had a Pantone code with the name 'Yellow'

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        @Crucial "Canary Yellow"

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        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

          @Crucial "Canary Yellow"

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          @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

          @Crucial "Canary Yellow"

          Sadly not.

          It is (according to Pantone) a part of the Yellow spectrum and I will admit that it is closer in composition to a shade called 'Golden' (as opposed to Gold) than to pure yellow.
          But it is still yellow.

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          • CrucialC Crucial

            @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

            @Crucial "Canary Yellow"

            Sadly not.

            It is (according to Pantone) a part of the Yellow spectrum and I will admit that it is closer in composition to a shade called 'Golden' (as opposed to Gold) than to pure yellow.
            But it is still yellow.

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            @Crucial the correct response is "that's Australian gold my friend and don't you fucking forget it"...or am I the only one that use to listen the the 12th man?

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              If I could bring myself to touch a Wallaby jeysey I would colour match it with my spectrophotometre, but as a Dulux colour (which all have Kiwi names in NZ) it looks like Rotorua, so it would probably smell bad too and looks like sulphur.

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                If Rieko wants to be a centre then we have to judge him as a centre, rather than his body of work on the wing. If that's the case then no way he starts ahead of ALB and JG, he's just not in their class yet despite his obvious talent. He's on the bench for mine, coming on in the final 20 to get some experience in the position and wrecking some havoc. We shouldn't move him back to wing as he will never settle and realise his potential in the midfield otherwise.

                At the moment we simply don't have a world class right winger. Jordan has the attributes but there are questions marks over his defense. So Jordie it is for now, as much as I'd prefer him at 15.

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                  The problem for Rieko is if he's only looked at as a 13 then he comes under real pressure from PUJ.

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                  • No QuarterN No Quarter

                    If Rieko wants to be a centre then we have to judge him as a centre, rather than his body of work on the wing. If that's the case then no way he starts ahead of ALB and JG, he's just not in their class yet despite his obvious talent. He's on the bench for mine, coming on in the final 20 to get some experience in the position and wrecking some havoc. We shouldn't move him back to wing as he will never settle and realise his potential in the midfield otherwise.

                    At the moment we simply don't have a world class right winger. Jordan has the attributes but there are questions marks over his defense. So Jordie it is for now, as much as I'd prefer him at 15.

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                    @No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                    If Rieko wants to be a centre then we have to judge him as a centre, rather than his body of work on the wing. If that's the case then no way he starts ahead of ALB and JG, he's just not in their class yet despite his obvious talent. He's on the bench for mine, coming on in the final 20 to get some experience in the position and wrecking some havoc. We shouldn't move him back to wing as he will never settle and realise his potential in the midfield otherwise.

                    At the moment we simply don't have a world class right winger. Jordan has the attributes but there are questions marks over his defense. So Jordie it is for now, as much as I'd prefer him at 15.

                    I have liked your post for the bit about Rieko but disagree that Jordie has the attributes to be a world class wing.
                    Even his brother recognised it last week when he made inroads down Jordie's flank, looked at him and took contact instead of passing and watching him get bundled into touch.

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                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                      @nzzp said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                      spot on, and England in the final - they shot their load the week before.

                      And in RWC2015 England suffered from premature ejection...

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                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                      @nzzp said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                      spot on, and England in the final - they shot their load the week before.

                      And in RWC2015 England suffered from premature ejection...

                      Or premature expectation..

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                      • No QuarterN No Quarter

                        If Rieko wants to be a centre then we have to judge him as a centre, rather than his body of work on the wing. If that's the case then no way he starts ahead of ALB and JG, he's just not in their class yet despite his obvious talent. He's on the bench for mine, coming on in the final 20 to get some experience in the position and wrecking some havoc. We shouldn't move him back to wing as he will never settle and realise his potential in the midfield otherwise.

                        At the moment we simply don't have a world class right winger. Jordan has the attributes but there are questions marks over his defense. So Jordie it is for now, as much as I'd prefer him at 15.

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                        @No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                        If Rieko wants to be a centre then we have to judge him as a centre, rather than his body of work on the wing. If that's the case then no way he starts ahead of ALB and JG, he's just not in their class yet despite his obvious talent. He's on the bench for mine, coming on in the final 20 to get some experience in the position and wrecking some havoc. We shouldn't move him back to wing as he will never settle and realise his potential in the midfield otherwise.

                        At the moment we simply don't have a world class right winger. Jordan has the attributes but there are questions marks over his defense. So Jordie it is for now, as much as I'd prefer him at 15.

                        Wait what? You’re applying one rule for Rieko and then ignoring it for your boy JB.

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                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                          The problem for Rieko is if he's only looked at as a 13 then he comes under real pressure from PUJ.

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                          @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                          The problem for Rieko is if he's only looked at as a 13 then he comes under real pressure from PUJ.

                          With the current backline it is difficult to have the right balance on the bench. You could argue that DMac isn't needed as JB can cover fullback, and BB covers 1st 5. But then would you need both Ioane and PUJ on the bench? Rieko has to cover wing as well as centre in the 23.

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                          • BovidaeB Bovidae

                            @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                            The problem for Rieko is if he's only looked at as a 13 then he comes under real pressure from PUJ.

                            With the current backline it is difficult to have the right balance on the bench. You could argue that DMac isn't needed as JB can cover fullback, and BB covers 1st 5. But then would you need both Ioane and PUJ on the bench? Rieko has to cover wing as well as centre in the 23.

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                            @Bovidae If Jordie is to be persisted with at 14 then Will Jordan could be paired with one of Rieko/PUJ on the bench.

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                            • No QuarterN No Quarter

                              If Rieko wants to be a centre then we have to judge him as a centre, rather than his body of work on the wing. If that's the case then no way he starts ahead of ALB and JG, he's just not in their class yet despite his obvious talent. He's on the bench for mine, coming on in the final 20 to get some experience in the position and wrecking some havoc. We shouldn't move him back to wing as he will never settle and realise his potential in the midfield otherwise.

                              At the moment we simply don't have a world class right winger. Jordan has the attributes but there are questions marks over his defense. So Jordie it is for now, as much as I'd prefer him at 15.

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                              @No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                              At the moment we simply don't have a world class right winger.

                              Well if we keep playing a slow fullback at 14 we aren't going to find one! Is he better than Jordan or Reece at 14? Because he is not, arguably, being made great use of as a 2nd fullback and his kicking in Bled 1 wasn' perfect.
                              (PS I am not a Jordie hater-he's got some useful skills to add into a game).

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                                I'm watching Goodhue in Bled 3. Considering there is R. Ioane and PUJ at 13, and ALB is arguably currently a more consistent, better 12 than JG...plus if they bring back Laumape at 12 in an upcoming game..combinations..

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                                  To'omua set to be sidelined for rest of Wallabies season

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                                  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                    I'm watching Goodhue in Bled 3. Considering there is R. Ioane and PUJ at 13, and ALB is arguably currently a more consistent, better 12 than JG...plus if they bring back Laumape at 12 in an upcoming game..combinations..

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                                    @nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                    I'm watching Goodhue in Bled 3. Considering there is R. Ioane and PUJ at 13, and ALB is arguably currently a more consistent, better 12 than JG...plus if they bring back Laumape at 12 in an upcoming game..combinations..

                                    Just a thought here. Maybe the backup plan is to bring Laumape in if JG goes down and only if he does.
                                    That way the gameplan doesn't change so much by shifting ALB in?

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                                      It isn't going to happen but I would move JB to the bench and start Rieko on the right wing. The third back sub would be someone who can provide impact out wide, so that is Reece.

                                      In this mix we have BB as the backup 1st 5. JB to come on at fullback. If one of Goodhue or ALB went off, Ioane moves to centre and Reece to the vacant wing. JB is the third option in the midfield and on the wing.

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                                      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                        I'm watching Goodhue in Bled 3. Considering there is R. Ioane and PUJ at 13, and ALB is arguably currently a more consistent, better 12 than JG...plus if they bring back Laumape at 12 in an upcoming game..combinations..

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                                        @nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                        I'm watching Goodhue in Bled 3. Considering there is R. Ioane and PUJ at 13, and ALB is arguably currently a more consistent, better 12 than JG...plus if they bring back Laumape at 12 in an upcoming game..combinations..

                                        While I really like PUJ and would love to see him develop, he needs to show his defence is up to it at Super level before I'd chuck him in as a starting 13. There were times over the last couple of years I thought he got exposed a wee bit for the Canes and Wellington.

                                        I don't get why people are so keen to chuck JG out with the bath water. The guy is not flashy but he is class.

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                                        • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                          @nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                          I'm watching Goodhue in Bled 3. Considering there is R. Ioane and PUJ at 13, and ALB is arguably currently a more consistent, better 12 than JG...plus if they bring back Laumape at 12 in an upcoming game..combinations..

                                          While I really like PUJ and would love to see him develop, he needs to show his defence is up to it at Super level before I'd chuck him in as a starting 13. There were times over the last couple of years I thought he got exposed a wee bit for the Canes and Wellington.

                                          I don't get why people are so keen to chuck JG out with the bath water. The guy is not flashy but he is class.

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                                          @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                          I don't get why people

                                          That might be more "person" than "people".

                                          Some of us would prefer him at 13 and ALB at 12 I think is the discussion, rather than dropping him. Rieko is a great bench option or starts on the wing for me.

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