Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October
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@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
If Rieko wants to be a centre then we have to judge him as a centre, rather than his body of work on the wing. If that's the case then no way he starts ahead of ALB and JG, he's just not in their class yet despite his obvious talent. He's on the bench for mine, coming on in the final 20 to get some experience in the position and wrecking some havoc. We shouldn't move him back to wing as he will never settle and realise his potential in the midfield otherwise.
At the moment we simply don't have a world class right winger. Jordan has the attributes but there are questions marks over his defense. So Jordie it is for now, as much as I'd prefer him at 15.
Wait what? You’re applying one rule for Rieko and then ignoring it for your boy JB.
@Nepia said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
If Rieko wants to be a centre then we have to judge him as a centre, rather than his body of work on the wing. If that's the case then no way he starts ahead of ALB and JG, he's just not in their class yet despite his obvious talent. He's on the bench for mine, coming on in the final 20 to get some experience in the position and wrecking some havoc. We shouldn't move him back to wing as he will never settle and realise his potential in the midfield otherwise.
At the moment we simply don't have a world class right winger. Jordan has the attributes but there are questions marks over his defense. So Jordie it is for now, as much as I'd prefer him at 15.
Wait what? You’re applying one rule for Rieko and then ignoring it for your boy JB.
Not quite - Jordie is filling in at wing, not a long term prospect there IMO. Rieko is up against two very classy midfielders. I think Rieko has the potential to be one of the best in the world like he was on the wing, but it's going to take some time for him to develop there at the top level.
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@mariner4life said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
just wanted it more
full credit to the boys though, they did well, it was a game of 2 halves and I think it was probably due to the ladies in the kitchen though, I mean, compared to the ladies in the kitchen in 1995, we have come along way!
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
just wanted it more
full credit to the boys though, they did well, it was a game of 2 halves and I think it was probably due to the ladies in the kitchen though, I mean, compared to the ladies in the kitchen in 1995, we have come along way!
From my perspective you can’t ask for anything more than that. They gave their all. Left nothing in the tank and at the end of the day, rugby was the real winner.
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Tough news for the Wallabies and Toomua, who is really coming into his own, as a leader too.
This injury probably makes it harder to try the youngster at 1st 5 too, unless they move JOC to 12 (which they shouldn’t at this stage).
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Tough news for the Wallabies and Toomua, who is really coming into his own, as a leader too.
This injury probably makes it harder to try the youngster at 1st 5 too, unless they move JOC to 12 (which they shouldn’t at this stage).
@ACT-Crusader It might mean Lolesio comes to the bench though cos they'll need 10 cover with Toomua out. Simone to 12 makes the most sense I'd say.
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@NTA Obvious answer is Simone - but, yeah, behind Toomua it was always going to be a debutant.
Question is - do we debut a rookie 12 or 10 with JOC outside him.
I thought Simone went pretty well and im pretty certain DR will throw him straight in - as he did with Paisami. Only one way to debut a player and better now than a year out from a RWC.
Rookie centre pairing fucks our chances of a win though.
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@NTA Yeah I said that on the super rugby thread. You guys can front up with 23 good players at test level but once a season starts the quality dimishes, with injuries, paternity leave, etc.
We have some better players at the levels below, but as you probably know - build a decent NPC system and you will have more depth. 3 Super sides above that gives you more competition for places so that improves quality. I believe that the Aus problem is systemic, you have the talent.
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@NTA Yeah I said that on the super rugby thread. You guys can front up with 23 good players at test level but once a season starts the quality dimishes, with injuries, paternity leave, etc.
We have some better players at the levels below, but as you probably know - build a decent NPC system and you will have more depth. 3 Super sides above that gives you more competition for places so that improves quality. I believe that the Aus problem is systemic, you have the talent.
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@Nepia said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
If Rieko wants to be a centre then we have to judge him as a centre, rather than his body of work on the wing. If that's the case then no way he starts ahead of ALB and JG, he's just not in their class yet despite his obvious talent. He's on the bench for mine, coming on in the final 20 to get some experience in the position and wrecking some havoc. We shouldn't move him back to wing as he will never settle and realise his potential in the midfield otherwise.
At the moment we simply don't have a world class right winger. Jordan has the attributes but there are questions marks over his defense. So Jordie it is for now, as much as I'd prefer him at 15.
Wait what? You’re applying one rule for Rieko and then ignoring it for your boy JB.
Not quite - Jordie is filling in at wing, not a long term prospect there IMO. Rieko is up against two very classy midfielders. I think Rieko has the potential to be one of the best in the world like he was on the wing, but it's going to take some time for him to develop there at the top level.
@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@Nepia said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
If Rieko wants to be a centre then we have to judge him as a centre, rather than his body of work on the wing. If that's the case then no way he starts ahead of ALB and JG, he's just not in their class yet despite his obvious talent. He's on the bench for mine, coming on in the final 20 to get some experience in the position and wrecking some havoc. We shouldn't move him back to wing as he will never settle and realise his potential in the midfield otherwise.
At the moment we simply don't have a world class right winger. Jordan has the attributes but there are questions marks over his defense. So Jordie it is for now, as much as I'd prefer him at 15.
Wait what? You’re applying one rule for Rieko and then ignoring it for your boy JB.
Not quite - Jordie is filling in at wing, not a long term prospect there IMO. Rieko is up against two very classy midfielders. I think Rieko has the potential to be one of the best in the world like he was on the wing, but it's going to take some time for him to develop there at the top level.
I don't see why he can't play on the wing in tests, filling in like Jordie, while he's developing his midfield game at Super and in lower tier tests. He was the best wing in the world a couple of years ago.
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Is it official that Ardie and Laulala definitely won’t play in Bled 3?
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Is it official that Ardie and Laulala definitely won’t play in Bled 3?
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
Is it official that Ardie and Laulala definitely won’t play in Bled 3?
Semi. They'll join in a week or two. Make of that what you will
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@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
Is it official that Ardie and Laulala definitely won’t play in Bled 3?
Semi. They'll join in a week or two. Make of that what you will
@Machpants said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
Is it official that Ardie and Laulala definitely won’t play in Bled 3?
Semi. They'll join in a week or two. Make of that what you will
exactly neither will be on flight with rest of initial squad
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@Bones just in case we get a 60m penalty opportunity deep in the game...shame we dont have some way to start others and let him come on in the 2nd half, where he would likely make an impact
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@Bones just in case we get a 60m penalty opportunity deep in the game...shame we dont have some way to start others and let him come on in the 2nd half, where he would likely make an impact
Yeah I think that's more likely. Jordie is really coming into his own throwing his big giraffe body around and being a bully too and I think they probably like having that aggression out there, but he doesn't fit their midfield and his brother is a legend at 15.
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@Bones just in case we get a 60m penalty opportunity deep in the game...shame we dont have some way to start others and let him come on in the 2nd half, where he would likely make an impact
Yeah I think that's more likely. Jordie is really coming into his own throwing his big giraffe body around and being a bully too and I think they probably like having that aggression out there, but he doesn't fit their midfield and his brother is a legend at 15.
@Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@Bones just in case we get a 60m penalty opportunity deep in the game...shame we dont have some way to start others and let him come on in the 2nd half, where he would likely make an impact
Yeah I think that's more likely. Jordie is really coming into his own throwing his big giraffe body around and being a bully too and I think they probably like having that aggression out there, but he doesn't fit their midfield and his brother is a legend at 15.
The hit he put on their prop was brilliant. And was it him that unloaded on Koroibete as well? He wasn't the same after that
