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Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October

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  • boobooB booboo

    @MajorRage said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

    @reprobate said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

    The interpretation is that the two differently worded laws are there for different situations. One where the ball is on the ground already and you push down it, one where you are carrying the ball.
    Coles controlled the ball with it in the air, not on the ground, so pushing down is not sufficient. At that point he needs to hold it and touch the ground with it, which he didn't.
    It's an unusual situation for sure, and confusing due to the disparity with a normal knock-on. Rule should probably be changed, but I have no issue with the ruling.

    Sorry to answer with 5 questions ...

    Is it? Did he knock it on before he forced it? Isn't that all that matters? And if not, why not?

    That's only four questions ...

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    @booboo said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

    @MajorRage said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

    @reprobate said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

    The interpretation is that the two differently worded laws are there for different situations. One where the ball is on the ground already and you push down it, one where you are carrying the ball.
    Coles controlled the ball with it in the air, not on the ground, so pushing down is not sufficient. At that point he needs to hold it and touch the ground with it, which he didn't.
    It's an unusual situation for sure, and confusing due to the disparity with a normal knock-on. Rule should probably be changed, but I have no issue with the ruling.

    Sorry to answer with 5 questions ...

    Is it? Did he knock it on before he forced it? Isn't that all that matters? And if not, why not?

    That's only four questions ...

    That thing at the front of your house is a door. Open it, and take a look - there's a lot to see on the other side. Explore it. More.

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    • WingerW Winger

      @number9 said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

      AB Forwards have brought the mongrel since the Wellington Test and the Aussies look pathetic

      Sad but true. I like close exciting hard fought matches.

      Aussie rugby seems to have slipped back this year. My view though is the previous coaching panel was crap towards the end. Hanson stayed on for too long and lost the plot. And Foster is better as head coach as long as he lets the likes of Plumtree do their thing. Except of course if he does something silly like bringing a Blackwell type player into the team.

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      @Winger said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

      Except of course if he does something silly like bringing a Blackwell type player into the team.

      doesn't need to, he's got Ardie for height.

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

        The real question is about the directives provided: there was a situation where you needed some pretty good evidence to overturn an onfield decision. Where has THAT gone?

        I think it was bought up after B1 (or whichever of B1/B2 a try was disallowed which bought up same discussion) there has been a slight tweak to the TMO protocols?

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        @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

        @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

        The real question is about the directives provided: there was a situation where you needed some pretty good evidence to overturn an onfield decision. Where has THAT gone?

        I think it was bought up after B1 (or whichever of B1/B2 a try was disallowed which bought up same discussion) there has been a slight tweak to the TMO protocols?

        It was. World rugby adopted the TMO protocols from Super rugby for tests over a year ago. Can't be bothered finding it again.

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          At 0.31 Coles doing exercises to improve touchdowns: https://mobile.twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1323339093703417856

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            At 0.31 Coles doing exercises to improve touchdowns: https://mobile.twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1323339093703417856

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            @pakman that was great. Some quality banter, and Sam W trying out the dad jokes 🙂

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              Yeah, that was good. Wish Jack would put the weights down and get outside for some sprint work though...

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              • voodooV voodoo

                Yeah, that was good. Wish Jack would put the weights down and get outside for some sprint work though...

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                @voodoo not that I dont disagree, but I am pretty sure Nic Gill is all over working on improving thier weaknesses 😉

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                • voodooV voodoo

                  Yeah, that was good. Wish Jack would put the weights down and get outside for some sprint work though...

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                  @voodoo said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                  Yeah, that was good. Wish Jack would put the weights down and get outside for some sprint work though...

                  Wouldn't the squats be helping with that too? More power?

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                  • nzzpN nzzp

                    @pakman that was great. Some quality banter, and Sam W trying out the dad jokes 🙂

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                    @nzzp said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                    @pakman that was great. Some quality banter, and Sam W trying out the dad jokes 🙂

                    What’s wrong with dad jokes? Asking for a friend

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                    • KirwanK Kirwan

                      Wet weather, massive blow out, fun memories of athletic park.

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                      @Kirwan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                      Wet weather, massive blow out, fun memories of athletic park.

                      No real comparison 96 saw a very, very good Aussie side taken apart by a great AB one in atrocious conditions.

                      Saturday was a good performance by a promising AB side against an inexperienced rabble on a damp day.

                      One was a game for the ages. The other will be forgotten very quickly.

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                      • voodooV voodoo

                        But fuck, maybe I'm just in the minority here amd out of touch, and maybe all the average punters really wants is hot chips and a crappy pie. Its certainly the lowest effort and if the $ aren't there from changing then I guess why would they?

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                        @voodoo said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                        But fuck, maybe I'm just in the minority here amd out of touch, and maybe all the average punters really wants is hot chips and a crappy pie. Its certainly the lowest effort and if the $ aren't there from changing then I guess why would they?

                        My issue with the stadium would be the poor viewing.

                        Maybe every test should be played at Albany? Proper footy stadium - great viewing. You can get sushi, caesar salads and hot brisket rolls and it'll hold 26,000 😉

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                        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                          @nzzp said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                          @pakman that was great. Some quality banter, and Sam W trying out the dad jokes 🙂

                          What’s wrong with dad jokes? Asking for a friend

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                          @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                          @nzzp said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                          @pakman that was great. Some quality banter, and Sam W trying out the dad jokes 🙂

                          What’s wrong with dad jokes? Asking for a friend

                          Nothing, they're great! It was just very noticeable the age gap between the graying Sammy, and the young bucks like Hoskins

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                          • dogmeatD dogmeat

                            @voodoo said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                            But fuck, maybe I'm just in the minority here amd out of touch, and maybe all the average punters really wants is hot chips and a crappy pie. Its certainly the lowest effort and if the $ aren't there from changing then I guess why would they?

                            My issue with the stadium would be the poor viewing.

                            Maybe every test should be played at Albany? Proper footy stadium - great viewing. You can get sushi, caesar salads and hot brisket rolls and it'll hold 26,000 😉

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                            @dogmeat said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                            Maybe every test should be played at Albany?

                            Premium watching experiences in NZ for Rugby

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                              2+3 equal Waikato and NH

                            Rectangular stadia make a difference for rugby watching- it's just better. Athletic park was good for that too, aside from the weather

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                            • nzzpN nzzp

                              @dogmeat said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                              Maybe every test should be played at Albany?

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                              Rectangular stadia make a difference for rugby watching- it's just better. Athletic park was good for that too, aside from the weather

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                              @nzzp I'd argue that they got the orientation of the ground wrong at Albany. Main stand should be the western to mitigate the prevailing wind. Still a very good stadium to watch footy.

                              Haven't been to FB but I'm told its fucking cold but creates a great atmosphere. On the bucket list.

                              Was at Rugby Park for Maori victory over Lions in 05. Reminded me of a small English football ground - in a good way. Was disappointing in that I was on my own and had to drive back to Akl straight after the game so was unable to enjoy the many .... delights.... that Hamilton has to offer

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                                Bankwest easily the best rugby stadium in NSW for watching a game. Dare I say not a bad seat in the house?

                                If you're in Sydney for ABs v Argies on 14th November I highly recommend it. I might even see if I'm free to go Argies v Wobs in December.

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                                • nzzpN nzzp

                                  @dogmeat said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  Maybe every test should be played at Albany?

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                                  Rectangular stadia make a difference for rugby watching- it's just better. Athletic park was good for that too, aside from the weather

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                                  @nzzp said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  @dogmeat said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  Maybe every test should be played at Albany?

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                                  I took a drive out to Forsyth Barr when I was there in the summer of 2019 and have it on my list for a Tahs game some day.

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                                    Wasn't there meant to be a stand on the western side too? Lack of demand and budget probably ended that idea.

                                    I first went to NHS in the late 90s before Westfield Albany really existed. Even the surrounding roads weren't fully developed then, and we parked on an unsealed Don McKinnon Dr from memory.

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                                    • NTAN NTA

                                      @nzzp said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                      @dogmeat said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                      Maybe every test should be played at Albany?

                                      Premium watching experiences in NZ for Rugby

                                      1. Dunedin

                                      I took a drive out to Forsyth Barr when I was there in the summer of 2019 and have it on my list for a Tahs game some day.

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                                      @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                      I took a drive out to Forsyth Barr when I was there in the summer of 2019 and have it on my list for a Tahs game some day.

                                      I want to go there at some stage too. I did manage to attend a rugby game at Carisbrook (Otago vs Lions, 2005) before it was pulled down.

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                                      • voodooV voodoo

                                        But fuck, maybe I'm just in the minority here amd out of touch, and maybe all the average punters really wants is hot chips and a crappy pie. Its certainly the lowest effort and if the $ aren't there from changing then I guess why would they?

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                                        @voodoo said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                        But fuck, maybe I'm just in the minority here amd out of touch, and maybe all the average punters really wants is hot chips and a crappy pie. Its certainly the lowest effort and if the $ aren't there from changing then I guess why would they?

                                        The sheer cost of securing the contract means they sell the cheapest food at the highest possible mark-up.

                                        I load up before these days.

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                                          @dogmeat said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                          Maybe every test should be played at Albany?

                                          Premium watching experiences in NZ for Rugby

                                          1. Dunedin
                                            2+3 equal Waikato and NH

                                          Rectangular stadia make a difference for rugby watching- it's just better. Athletic park was good for that too, aside from the weather

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                                          @nzzp said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                          @dogmeat said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                          Maybe every test should be played at Albany?

                                          Premium watching experiences in NZ for Rugby

                                          1. Dunedin

                                          I was hoping to get there to watch Wales lose. Then Covid...

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