NBA Season - now 24/25
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@canefan said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
@gt12 said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
@canefan said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
@gt12 said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
I cannot believe that the Mavs did not get the other lakers pick.
The Lakers can go get a big man to help Luka now, using that fucking pick.
I just do not fucking get how that pick is not with the Mavs.They kept Reaves and the picks. Talk about a fire sale. I can't see how the GM keeps his job, surely he must have consulted Mark Cuban? Has he learned nothing since trading away Steve Nash?
Cuban has already said he is out of the picture.
Ah I read he sold the majority stake to some casino magnate in 2023. Has no input into team management matters anymore.
Who knows, maybe AD is the missing piece. But if Dallas don't win it all within a year or two there will be no shortage of people happy to run Harrison out of town
If they don't win this year or next, he won't be in town to find out.
I'll accept the choice if we win this year or next. But, if we don't, then we've lost 10 years of being a potential challenger.
Luka is the only 5-time all NBA player under 30 (who is still active) and they traded him. He's only 25!
That's either mad or he's cooked.
Bontemps called it the biggest short in NBA history. We'll see whether he's Lehman Brothers or Morgan Stanley.
@gt12 said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
@canefan said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
@gt12 said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
@canefan said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
@gt12 said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
I cannot believe that the Mavs did not get the other lakers pick.
The Lakers can go get a big man to help Luka now, using that fucking pick.
I just do not fucking get how that pick is not with the Mavs.They kept Reaves and the picks. Talk about a fire sale. I can't see how the GM keeps his job, surely he must have consulted Mark Cuban? Has he learned nothing since trading away Steve Nash?
Cuban has already said he is out of the picture.
Ah I read he sold the majority stake to some casino magnate in 2023. Has no input into team management matters anymore.
Who knows, maybe AD is the missing piece. But if Dallas don't win it all within a year or two there will be no shortage of people happy to run Harrison out of town
If they don't win this year or next, he won't be in town to find out.
I'll accept the choice if we win this year or next. But, if we don't, then we've lost 10 years of being a potential challenger.
Luka is the only 5-time all NBA player under 30 (who is still active) and they traded him. He's only 25!
That's either mad or he's cooked.
Bontemps called it the biggest short in NBA history. We'll see whether he's Lehman Brothers or Morgan Stanley.
So if Dallas win the title this year or next you will accept 10 down years? Either way the GM is going to be fired, with or without a ring
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If you win a ring this year the trade will be rightfully lauded as genius.
The issue to me is that Dallas will not actually win a ring this year, or any year. So the above scenario is purely hypothetical. Because it was a horrible trade made by a moron.
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If you win a ring this year the trade will be rightfully lauded as genius.
The issue to me is that Dallas will not actually win a ring this year, or any year. So the above scenario is purely hypothetical. Because it was a horrible trade made by a moron.
@barbarian said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
If you win a ring this year the trade will be rightfully lauded as genius.
The issue to me is that Dallas will not actually win a ring this year, or any year. So the above scenario is purely hypothetical. Because it was a horrible trade made by a moron.
Shit man, give me a little hope here.
you're right of course, it's probably the definition of GM malpractice. This guy has form too, have you guys heard about the Nike pitch he gave to Steph curry where he called him Seth and the slides were made for Durant?
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Yeah I heard that. But the weird thing is until this point I don't think he's been a bad GM. He constructed a roster that got to the finals! The Kyrie trade was divisive but ultimately worked.
And Dallas has earned a reputation of being generally very competent as an organisation. If this was the Kings or the Knicks then sure I'd be a bit more understanding, but not the Mavs!
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It’s likely one of those things where you can talk yourself into it, if you are the only person really involved and an idiot.
Kidd apparently wasn’t involved, and from the deal itself it seems like he just wanted Davis and ended getting pantsed to get him.
We didn’t get Reeeves (tradeable asset) or their other pick! That’s unforgivable either way when you look at the quality of Luka.
Fuck look at what the Kings just got!
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I can't believe that ownership weren't consulted on this. I read somewhere that the managing partner was concerned about being on the hook for the supermax with a player who had conditioning issues. There is much blame pie to go around if this goes sideways I think
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I can't believe that ownership weren't consulted on this. I read somewhere that the managing partner was concerned about being on the hook for the supermax with a player who had conditioning issues. There is much blame pie to go around if this goes sideways I think
@canefan said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
I read somewhere that the managing partner was concerned about being on the hook for the supermax with a player who had conditioning issues.
Understandable. What isn't understandable is not shopping Luka but instead wanting AD so bad you only reach out to the Lakers. Heck - even if you wanted AD that bad you could have created a bidding war and got more out of the Lakers than you got.
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@canefan said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
I read somewhere that the managing partner was concerned about being on the hook for the supermax with a player who had conditioning issues.
Understandable. What isn't understandable is not shopping Luka but instead wanting AD so bad you only reach out to the Lakers. Heck - even if you wanted AD that bad you could have created a bidding war and got more out of the Lakers than you got.
@KiwiMurph said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
@canefan said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
I read somewhere that the managing partner was concerned about being on the hook for the supermax with a player who had conditioning issues.
Understandable. What isn't understandable is not shopping Luka but instead wanting AD so bad you only reach out to the Lakers. Heck - even if you wanted AD that bad you could have created a bidding war and got more out of the Lakers than you got.
Their story was apparently they didn't want to give Luka's camp any chance to gain leverage and muddy the deal. They were focussed on getting AD. Talk about falling into the Lakers' lap
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Well that's the scenario where the trade works - if Luka turns out to be Embiid 2.0. Never gets fit, always injured, flashes of brilliance but ultimately a frustrating career arc.
While Dallas gets Davis in his prime and can put 2-3 competitive years together.
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Well that's the scenario where the trade works - if Luka turns out to be Embiid 2.0. Never gets fit, always injured, flashes of brilliance but ultimately a frustrating career arc.
While Dallas gets Davis in his prime and can put 2-3 competitive years together.
@barbarian said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
Well that's the scenario where the trade works - if Luka turns out to be Embiid 2.0. Never gets fit, always injured, flashes of brilliance but ultimately a frustrating career arc.
While Dallas gets Davis in his prime and can put 2-3 competitive years together.
Yeah, but Embiid is younger than AD!
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They say Luka, LeBron and AD all had no idea.
But they also say this was in the works since Jan 7th, nearly a month.
Also, AD waived his $6m trade fee to get the Mavs under the luxury tax - if this had really been dropped on him like a bomb with no warning, would he really immediately agree to that? $6m isn't nothing, not even to these guys.
I think AD must've known. Which means Klutch & LeBron also knew. I can believe Luka didn't know.....maybe.
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if your team sucks, all you hope is that you find a Luka in the draft that sets you up for the next dozen to 15 years. They don't come along often, but that's what the draft is, hope for teams at the bottom.
The Mavs found one, he led them to the fucking finals, and some idiot thinks he's the smartest guy in the room, and traded him.
I was trying to think of what the equivalent for the Spurs would be, and it's the GM looking at why we can't win now, seeing we're not a great 3-pointer team, and thus trading Wemby for Malik Beasley
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That's a slight overstatement at the end there, but I get your point.
It's the sort of trade you would do in a fantasy league. Sell high on a player who scored two TDs that week and you predict might not get back to that height. It works or it doesn't but you move on in the end.
The difference here that the Dallas GM has seemingly forgotten is the fans, the city, the narrative of what Luka means. It's probably only Joker, Steph and Giannis that have a similar relationship with their city.
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The most Harrison can hope for, is to have a situation like the Toronto Raptors who traded away Lowry for Kawhai and won the championship that year. That's the only thing that will ease the sting of Dallas flushing the next decade down the loo
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Jimmy Butler is at home doing nothing because apparently he will only go to the Suns. Problem is the Suns can't take him. So you probably won't see Jimmy again this year.
The ONLY way he gets moved is if the GSW chasing KD hard rumours turn out to be true.
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The most Harrison can hope for, is to have a situation like the Toronto Raptors who traded away Lowry for Kawhai and won the championship that year. That's the only thing that will ease the sting of Dallas flushing the next decade down the loo
@canefan said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
The most Harrison can hope for, is to have a situation like the Toronto Raptors who traded away Lowry for Kawhai and won the championship that year. That's the only thing that will ease the sting of Dallas flushing the next decade down the loo
Lowry was in that team that won. He traded DeRozan. And DeRozan is no Luka.
But you're right, anything less than a ring means this is a failure, and a bad one at that.
