NBA Season - now 24/25
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Well that's the scenario where the trade works - if Luka turns out to be Embiid 2.0. Never gets fit, always injured, flashes of brilliance but ultimately a frustrating career arc.
While Dallas gets Davis in his prime and can put 2-3 competitive years together.
@barbarian said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
Well that's the scenario where the trade works - if Luka turns out to be Embiid 2.0. Never gets fit, always injured, flashes of brilliance but ultimately a frustrating career arc.
While Dallas gets Davis in his prime and can put 2-3 competitive years together.
Yeah, but Embiid is younger than AD!
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They say Luka, LeBron and AD all had no idea.
But they also say this was in the works since Jan 7th, nearly a month.
Also, AD waived his $6m trade fee to get the Mavs under the luxury tax - if this had really been dropped on him like a bomb with no warning, would he really immediately agree to that? $6m isn't nothing, not even to these guys.
I think AD must've known. Which means Klutch & LeBron also knew. I can believe Luka didn't know.....maybe.
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if your team sucks, all you hope is that you find a Luka in the draft that sets you up for the next dozen to 15 years. They don't come along often, but that's what the draft is, hope for teams at the bottom.
The Mavs found one, he led them to the fucking finals, and some idiot thinks he's the smartest guy in the room, and traded him.
I was trying to think of what the equivalent for the Spurs would be, and it's the GM looking at why we can't win now, seeing we're not a great 3-pointer team, and thus trading Wemby for Malik Beasley
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That's a slight overstatement at the end there, but I get your point.
It's the sort of trade you would do in a fantasy league. Sell high on a player who scored two TDs that week and you predict might not get back to that height. It works or it doesn't but you move on in the end.
The difference here that the Dallas GM has seemingly forgotten is the fans, the city, the narrative of what Luka means. It's probably only Joker, Steph and Giannis that have a similar relationship with their city.
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The most Harrison can hope for, is to have a situation like the Toronto Raptors who traded away Lowry for Kawhai and won the championship that year. That's the only thing that will ease the sting of Dallas flushing the next decade down the loo
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in other trade news
Jimmy Butler is at home doing nothing because apparently he will only go to the Suns. Problem is the Suns can't take him. So you probably won't see Jimmy again this year.
The ONLY way he gets moved is if the GSW chasing KD hard rumours turn out to be true.
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The most Harrison can hope for, is to have a situation like the Toronto Raptors who traded away Lowry for Kawhai and won the championship that year. That's the only thing that will ease the sting of Dallas flushing the next decade down the loo
@canefan said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
The most Harrison can hope for, is to have a situation like the Toronto Raptors who traded away Lowry for Kawhai and won the championship that year. That's the only thing that will ease the sting of Dallas flushing the next decade down the loo
Lowry was in that team that won. He traded DeRozan. And DeRozan is no Luka.
But you're right, anything less than a ring means this is a failure, and a bad one at that.
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Listening to the Mismatch podcast, Chris Vernon had an interesting theory that I liked.
Nico Harrison is a big Kobe guy. So by extension you'd assume he is a big believer in the Mamba mentality stuff, in the gym at 5am, first in last out kind of stuff.
You know who isn't that type of guy? Luka. He's got weight issues. Likes a beer. Doesn't work as hard as some of his peers.
So while others might be willing to overlook that if the results are there, he might not be as forgiving. So he looks at Joel Embiid (similar talent, similar weight/conditioning issues) and what he's become and the noose his contract is around the 76ers necks, and thinks 'I have to get out of this future'.
Now that still doesn't explain why he traded him away for cents on the dollar, but it does somewhat explain why he wanted out of the Luka experience.
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Mamba mentality. jesus. Nikola Jokic hates basketball, and everything that comes with it, and is probably the least athletic looking guy in the league. He's also the best player in the league by some distance.
Harrison is a fucking idiot.
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for Anthony Day-to-Davis???
@mariner4life said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
for Anthony Day-to-Davis???
Been more durable lately.
I did like the idea that they needed a better defender because they were shown up in the Finals by the Celtics. But of course in the process of acquiring a rim protector they traded away the reason they got to the Finals in the first place...
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@canefan said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
The most Harrison can hope for, is to have a situation like the Toronto Raptors who traded away Lowry for Kawhai and won the championship that year. That's the only thing that will ease the sting of Dallas flushing the next decade down the loo
Lowry was in that team that won. He traded DeRozan. And DeRozan is no Luka.
But you're right, anything less than a ring means this is a failure, and a bad one at that.
@barbarian said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
@canefan said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
The most Harrison can hope for, is to have a situation like the Toronto Raptors who traded away Lowry for Kawhai and won the championship that year. That's the only thing that will ease the sting of Dallas flushing the next decade down the loo
Lowry was in that team that won. He traded DeRozan. And DeRozan is no Luka.
But you're right, anything less than a ring means this is a failure, and a bad one at that.
But they basically knew Leonard was only staying a year. So it was a gamble to sell fan favourites for a one year loan
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@mariner4life said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
for Anthony Day-to-Davis???
Been more durable lately.
I did like the idea that they needed a better defender because they were shown up in the Finals by the Celtics. But of course in the process of acquiring a rim protector they traded away the reason they got to the Finals in the first place...
@barbarian said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
@mariner4life said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
for Anthony Day-to-Davis???
Been more durable lately.
I did like the idea that they needed a better defender because they were shown up in the Finals by the Celtics. But of course in the process of acquiring a rim protector they traded away the reason they got to the Finals in the first place...
he averaged 29-5-9 with 3 steals in that finals as well.
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@barbarian said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
@mariner4life said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
for Anthony Day-to-Davis???
Been more durable lately.
I did like the idea that they needed a better defender because they were shown up in the Finals by the Celtics. But of course in the process of acquiring a rim protector they traded away the reason they got to the Finals in the first place...
he averaged 29-5-9 with 3 steals in that finals as well.
@mariner4life said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
@barbarian said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
@mariner4life said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
for Anthony Day-to-Davis???
Been more durable lately.
I did like the idea that they needed a better defender because they were shown up in the Finals by the Celtics. But of course in the process of acquiring a rim protector they traded away the reason they got to the Finals in the first place...
he averaged 29-5-9 with 3 steals in that finals as well.
Fat lazy fluffybunny.
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@barbarian said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
Rumours swirling around KD, might be on the trade block...
Jimmy Buckets likes this
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@mariner4life said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
for Anthony Day-to-Davis???
Been more durable lately.
I did like the idea that they needed a better defender because they were shown up in the Finals by the Celtics. But of course in the process of acquiring a rim protector they traded away the reason they got to the Finals in the first place...
@barbarian said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
@mariner4life said in NBA Season - now 24/25:
for Anthony Day-to-Davis???
Been more durable lately.
I did like the idea that they needed a better defender because they were shown up in the Finals by the Celtics. But of course in the process of acquiring a rim protector they traded away the reason they got to the Finals in the first place...
They had the 8th best D in the league last year when making finals.
They lost the Finals because they couldn't shoot well enough when it counted, not because the Celtics were rinsing them for 140pts per game.
