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  • canefanC canefan

    @African-Monkey said in NBA Season - now 24/25:

    @canefan said in NBA Season - now 24/25:

    IMHO Dallas ownership don't deserve that kind of luck. It's not like they got scammed, they ran they superstar out of town and badmouthed him as he left. They should be cursed

    It was rigged lol let's not play dumb here.

    Maybe in the old days. Not so sure now. There's too much at stake, don't they get one of the major auditing firms to oversee the lottery? A quick Google check says Ernst and Young oversee it

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    @canefan said in NBA Season - now 24/25:

    @African-Monkey said in NBA Season - now 24/25:

    @canefan said in NBA Season - now 24/25:

    IMHO Dallas ownership don't deserve that kind of luck. It's not like they got scammed, they ran they superstar out of town and badmouthed him as he left. They should be cursed

    It was rigged lol let's not play dumb here.

    Maybe in the old days. Not so sure now. There's too much at stake, don't they get one of the major auditing firms to oversee the lottery? A quick Google check says Ernst and Young oversee it

    If they want to be transparent they would show the actual draft lottery - not just release the results

    2008: Derrick Rose going to his home town Chicago when the Bulls had a 1.7% chance

    2011: The Cavaliers getting the #1 pick after LeBron James left the summer prior

    2012: The Pelicans getting the #1 pick after Chris Paul leaves

    2019: The Pelicans getting the #1 pick after Anthony Davis demands a trade

    2025: The Dallas Mavericks getting the #1 pick after trading Luka Doncic at the trade deadline with a 1.8% chance

    It's rigged as all hell

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      @canefan said in NBA Season - now 24/25:

      @African-Monkey said in NBA Season - now 24/25:

      @canefan said in NBA Season - now 24/25:

      IMHO Dallas ownership don't deserve that kind of luck. It's not like they got scammed, they ran they superstar out of town and badmouthed him as he left. They should be cursed

      It was rigged lol let's not play dumb here.

      Maybe in the old days. Not so sure now. There's too much at stake, don't they get one of the major auditing firms to oversee the lottery? A quick Google check says Ernst and Young oversee it

      If they want to be transparent they would show the actual draft lottery - not just release the results

      2008: Derrick Rose going to his home town Chicago when the Bulls had a 1.7% chance

      2011: The Cavaliers getting the #1 pick after LeBron James left the summer prior

      2012: The Pelicans getting the #1 pick after Chris Paul leaves

      2019: The Pelicans getting the #1 pick after Anthony Davis demands a trade

      2025: The Dallas Mavericks getting the #1 pick after trading Luka Doncic at the trade deadline with a 1.8% chance

      It's rigged as all hell

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      canefan
      wrote on last edited by canefan
      #2924

      @KiwiMurph said in NBA Season - now 24/25:

      @canefan said in NBA Season - now 24/25:

      @African-Monkey said in NBA Season - now 24/25:

      @canefan said in NBA Season - now 24/25:

      IMHO Dallas ownership don't deserve that kind of luck. It's not like they got scammed, they ran they superstar out of town and badmouthed him as he left. They should be cursed

      It was rigged lol let's not play dumb here.

      Maybe in the old days. Not so sure now. There's too much at stake, don't they get one of the major auditing firms to oversee the lottery? A quick Google check says Ernst and Young oversee it

      If they want to be transparent they would show the actual draft lottery - not just release the results

      2008: Derrick Rose going to his home town Chicago when the Bulls had a 1.7% chance

      2011: The Cavaliers getting the #1 pick after LeBron James left the summer prior

      2012: The Pelicans getting the #1 pick after Chris Paul leaves

      2019: The Pelicans getting the #1 pick after Anthony Davis demands a trade

      2025: The Dallas Mavericks getting the #1 pick after trading Luka Doncic at the trade deadline with a 1.8% chance

      It's rigged as all hell

      I would be all for televising the lottery. Just like a lotto show, it would make great telly as the respective teams find out their fate in real time

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        Pro sports can be a tough place. Tom Thibodeau takes the Knicks to their first Conference Finals in 20 plus years, and he gets fired

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        • canefanC canefan

          Pro sports can be a tough place. Tom Thibodeau takes the Knicks to their first Conference Finals in 20 plus years, and he gets fired

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          @canefan

          He did take an age to start using his bench, they are similar to the Nuggets I think in getting all their points from their starters.

          But, yeah, seems rough to not go again next year with some upgrades.

          There is some negative talk about KAT around as well.

          That game 6 was there for them and they just couldn’t walk through the door, maybe that’s the root of it.

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          • gt12G gt12

            @canefan

            He did take an age to start using his bench, they are similar to the Nuggets I think in getting all their points from their starters.

            But, yeah, seems rough to not go again next year with some upgrades.

            There is some negative talk about KAT around as well.

            That game 6 was there for them and they just couldn’t walk through the door, maybe that’s the root of it.

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            #2927

            @gt12 said in NBA Season - now 24/25:

            @canefan

            He did take an age to start using his bench, they are similar to the Nuggets I think in getting all their points from their starters.

            But, yeah, seems rough to not go again next year with some upgrades.

            There is some negative talk about KAT around as well.

            That game 6 was there for them and they just couldn’t walk through the door, maybe that’s the root of it.

            There’s no edge / killer instinct in this version of the Knicks, just a bunch of really nice pieces.

            I look at the Pacers and two guys - Mathurin and Helly have that bit of crazy in them when they play. When there’s very little between the teams when it comes to talent, you need something a little extra and I think the Pacers have it.

            OKC have this ruthlessness that many don’t see because they see the post game team interviews, the “togetherness” but they are so locked in that teams up by 10 all of sudden find themselves down by 6 in a matter of minutes. SGAs mid range game is such a weapon that every defence in the league has suffered at the hands of it.

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            • gt12G gt12

              @canefan

              He did take an age to start using his bench, they are similar to the Nuggets I think in getting all their points from their starters.

              But, yeah, seems rough to not go again next year with some upgrades.

              There is some negative talk about KAT around as well.

              That game 6 was there for them and they just couldn’t walk through the door, maybe that’s the root of it.

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              @gt12 said in NBA Season - now 24/25:

              @canefan

              He did take an age to start using his bench, they are similar to the Nuggets I think in getting all their points from their starters.

              But, yeah, seems rough to not go again next year with some upgrades.

              There is some negative talk about KAT around as well.

              That game 6 was there for them and they just couldn’t walk through the door, maybe that’s the root of it.

              KAT has skills, but the guy plays small. He has little rim protection presence

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              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                @gt12 said in NBA Season - now 24/25:

                @canefan

                He did take an age to start using his bench, they are similar to the Nuggets I think in getting all their points from their starters.

                But, yeah, seems rough to not go again next year with some upgrades.

                There is some negative talk about KAT around as well.

                That game 6 was there for them and they just couldn’t walk through the door, maybe that’s the root of it.

                There’s no edge / killer instinct in this version of the Knicks, just a bunch of really nice pieces.

                I look at the Pacers and two guys - Mathurin and Helly have that bit of crazy in them when they play. When there’s very little between the teams when it comes to talent, you need something a little extra and I think the Pacers have it.

                OKC have this ruthlessness that many don’t see because they see the post game team interviews, the “togetherness” but they are so locked in that teams up by 10 all of sudden find themselves down by 6 in a matter of minutes. SGAs mid range game is such a weapon that every defence in the league has suffered at the hands of it.

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                #2929

                @ACT-Crusader said in NBA Season - now 24/25:

                @gt12 said in NBA Season - now 24/25:

                @canefan

                He did take an age to start using his bench, they are similar to the Nuggets I think in getting all their points from their starters.

                But, yeah, seems rough to not go again next year with some upgrades.

                There is some negative talk about KAT around as well.

                That game 6 was there for them and they just couldn’t walk through the door, maybe that’s the root of it.

                There’s no edge / killer instinct in this version of the Knicks, just a bunch of really nice pieces.

                I look at the Pacers and two guys - Mathurin and Helly have that bit of crazy in them when they play. When there’s very little between the teams when it comes to talent, you need something a little extra and I think the Pacers have it.

                OKC have this ruthlessness that many don’t see because they see the post game team interviews, the “togetherness” but they are so locked in that teams up by 10 all of sudden find themselves down by 6 in a matter of minutes. SGAs mid range game is such a weapon that every defence in the league has suffered at the hands of it.

                On OKC, it's their defence that I love, they are just so good at moving around the floor.
                I've spent a long time in OK, so I'm 100% behind them for this series.

                Edit: BTW, I thought KAT had found that in that game where he went so well, but he just can't find that edge.

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                  #2930

                  KAT is such an odd player. He's sooooo slow, and can be soooo dumb, but man his jumper is sweet.

                  But the Knicks offense is a total zero - it's almost all iso stuff, Brunson, KAT and Bridges taking turns. I won't miss them, and I definitely won't miss Brunsons style of game.

                  Here is a stat for you - Halliburtons assist-to-turnover ratio in that series was 6.1x; - Brunsons was 1.4x - that's nuts for a diferential between opposing PG's. I know they are different players, but still. Credit to Nembhard's D for a lot of that, but still a wild discrepancy. Incredible number for Hali

                  It'll be a very interesting and fun finals. Both teams play great d and love to push the pace - can't see Indy getting multiple fast break layups off scored baskets like they did v the Knicks.

                  Hard to see Indy having enough scoring to win more than 1 game - but they've been proving people wrong all playoffs so far!

                  OKC in 5 for me

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                  • voodooV voodoo

                    KAT is such an odd player. He's sooooo slow, and can be soooo dumb, but man his jumper is sweet.

                    But the Knicks offense is a total zero - it's almost all iso stuff, Brunson, KAT and Bridges taking turns. I won't miss them, and I definitely won't miss Brunsons style of game.

                    Here is a stat for you - Halliburtons assist-to-turnover ratio in that series was 6.1x; - Brunsons was 1.4x - that's nuts for a diferential between opposing PG's. I know they are different players, but still. Credit to Nembhard's D for a lot of that, but still a wild discrepancy. Incredible number for Hali

                    It'll be a very interesting and fun finals. Both teams play great d and love to push the pace - can't see Indy getting multiple fast break layups off scored baskets like they did v the Knicks.

                    Hard to see Indy having enough scoring to win more than 1 game - but they've been proving people wrong all playoffs so far!

                    OKC in 5 for me

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                    @voodoo said in NBA Season - now 24/25:

                    OKC in 5 for me

                    yep, my guess as well

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                      Hoping for Indy, but OKC in 6

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                        #2933

                        It's good that there will be another first-time winner.

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                        • voodooV voodoo

                          KAT is such an odd player. He's sooooo slow, and can be soooo dumb, but man his jumper is sweet.

                          But the Knicks offense is a total zero - it's almost all iso stuff, Brunson, KAT and Bridges taking turns. I won't miss them, and I definitely won't miss Brunsons style of game.

                          Here is a stat for you - Halliburtons assist-to-turnover ratio in that series was 6.1x; - Brunsons was 1.4x - that's nuts for a diferential between opposing PG's. I know they are different players, but still. Credit to Nembhard's D for a lot of that, but still a wild discrepancy. Incredible number for Hali

                          It'll be a very interesting and fun finals. Both teams play great d and love to push the pace - can't see Indy getting multiple fast break layups off scored baskets like they did v the Knicks.

                          Hard to see Indy having enough scoring to win more than 1 game - but they've been proving people wrong all playoffs so far!

                          OKC in 5 for me

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                          @voodoo KAT is the prototypical big man in today’s league. Has endless range so is a nightmare on pick and pops. Has an iso game. But his back to the basket game is limited. Doesn’t work enough form 15 feet in.

                          Not a fan but there is definite quality. Brunson might need to evolve his game a bit. He’s got the scorers mentality, the back down game like no other guard in the league not named Luka, but the ball is sticky with him on the floor and other guys aren’t being involved the way you would like or need to go that next step.

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                          • BovidaeB Bovidae

                            It's good that there will be another first-time winner.

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                            @Bovidae said in NBA Season - now 24/25:

                            It's good that there will be another first-time winner.

                            And also a different NBA champion for the 7th straight year.

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                              The Pacers win game 1 at the death after OKC was in control all game. SGA with a miss and then Haliburton nails the jump shot.

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                                The Pacers win game 1 at the death after OKC was in control all game. SGA with a miss and then Haliburton nails the jump shot.

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                                @Bovidae said in NBA Season - now 24/25:

                                The Pacers win game 1 at the death after OKC was in control all game. SGA with a miss and then Haliburton nails the jump shot.

                                That puts the cat amongst the pigeons!

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                                  He might’ve been rated the most overrated but this kid has hit more game ending shots this season than any other player.

                                  Crazy with all those turnovers and the fact that Hali’s shot gave them their first lead of the game, makes it all the more unreal.

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                                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                    He might’ve been rated the most overrated but this kid has hit more game ending shots this season than any other player.

                                    Crazy with all those turnovers and the fact that Hali’s shot gave them their first lead of the game, makes it all the more unreal.

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                                    @ACT-Crusader said in NBA Season - now 24/25:

                                    He might’ve been rated the most overrated but this kid has hit more game ending shots this season than any other player.

                                    Crazy with all those turnovers and the fact that Hali’s shot gave them their first lead of the game, makes it all the more unreal.

                                    Windy said he is 12/14 in the final 2 minutes to take the lead.
                                    That's Cluuuuuuuuutch.

                                    Also, until today it was 0/163 in games down by 9 with a minute left.

                                    If the Thunder wee more careful from turnover ball they should have won that by heaps though....

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                                      Moments before disaster.

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                                        That was a gritty NBA Finals game. The defence from the Pacers was excellent. OKC committing turnover after turnover, getting blocked at the rim and on the perimeter.

                                        Mathurin should’ve got a double BANG when he hit this line drive 3 in the 4th quarter. The impact he is providing is awesome.

                                        What I’m liking is that both of these teams have a shown they have that dog in them. Nembhard was causing issues for SGA 94 feet. Then Nesmith. They Mathurin. Then Shepherd.

                                        What is noticeable and maybe a coaching shift needs to come from OKC, but play SGA off the ball a bit more and get him shots that way. Easier said than done when he has been the guy with the ball so much, but he looked gassed and there was still plenty of time left in the 4th.

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                                        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                          That was a gritty NBA Finals game. The defence from the Pacers was excellent. OKC committing turnover after turnover, getting blocked at the rim and on the perimeter.

                                          Mathurin should’ve got a double BANG when he hit this line drive 3 in the 4th quarter. The impact he is providing is awesome.

                                          What I’m liking is that both of these teams have a shown they have that dog in them. Nembhard was causing issues for SGA 94 feet. Then Nesmith. They Mathurin. Then Shepherd.

                                          What is noticeable and maybe a coaching shift needs to come from OKC, but play SGA off the ball a bit more and get him shots that way. Easier said than done when he has been the guy with the ball so much, but he looked gassed and there was still plenty of time left in the 4th.

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                                          @ACT-Crusader

                                          Pacers team is good fun to watch, but I'm hoping OKC have enough maturity and some coaching to get them home.

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