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2021 Rugby Championship

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  • KruseK Kruse

    I'd just like to thank this opportunity for encouraging @Derpus to be @Derpus.
    Never change, bro. Never change.

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    @kruse said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

    I'd just like to thank this opportunity for encouraging @Derpus to be @Derpus.
    Never change, bro. Never change.

    Do what i can

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    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

      I wouldn’t pick one Australian in a combined ANZAC C team…

      As to the whole situation, it’s not great and I suspect both sides of the Ta$man have been chasing their tails trying to claim some sort of moral high ground in what in reality is crap for all.

      The faux outrage is a little funny though.

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      @act-crusader that is simply sensational bait. Bravo. I assume you’d have Hooper in the B squad. Might quibble over one or two of the props but otherwise not outrageous.

      I doff my cap to a master at work.

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        @act-crusader that is simply sensational bait. Bravo. I assume you’d have Hooper in the B squad. Might quibble over one or two of the props but otherwise not outrageous.

        I doff my cap to a master at work.

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        @smuts said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

        @act-crusader that is simply sensational bait. Bravo. I assume you’d have Hooper in the B squad. Might quibble over one or two of the props but otherwise not outrageous.

        I doff my cap to a master at work.

        I’m deadly serious

        ANZAC A
        1 - J. Moody
        2 - C. Taylor
        3 - T. Blue
        4 - S. Barrett
        5 - S. Whitelock
        6 - E. Blackadder
        7 - T. Chief
        8 - T. Cane
        9 - T. Lander
        10 - R. Mo’unga
        11 - G. Bridge
        12 - D. Havili
        13 - J. Goodhue
        14 - S. Reece
        15 - W. Jordan

        ANZAC B
        1 - K. Tu'inukuafe
        2 - D. Coles
        3 - O. Tuungafasi
        4 - B. Retallick
        5 - P. Tuipoluto
        6 - A. Ioane
        7 - D. Papali’i
        8 - L. Jacobsen
        9 - B. Weber
        10 - B. Barrett
        11 - R. Ioane
        12 - Q. Tupeau
        13 - A. Lienert-Brown
        14 - B. Ennor
        15 - J. Barrett

        ANZAC C
        1 - G. Bower
        2 - S. Taukei'aho
        3 - A. Ta’avao
        4 - T. Vaa’i
        5 - C. Grace
        6 - S. Frizell
        7 - A. Aumua
        8 - H. Sotutu
        9 - F. Christie
        10 - T. Perenara
        11 - C. Clarke
        12 - N. Laumape
        13 - P. Umaga-Jensen
        14 - D. McKenzie
        15 - J. Ioane

        16 - M. Koroibete

        😁

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          RTS over Koroibetee for me.

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            Surprised by the bizarre postings on this topic. Am I the only one disgusted by how Mark Robinson has played this one out in the media. I have full sympathy for Dave Rennie and the Perth rugby community. In my eyes NZRU have an awful lot of explaining to do to prove they weren't deliberately making a non decision to travel to bring pressure on others to improve their financial outcomes. Smacks of selling out our Australian friends to seek a better financial result from AB's trip out of NZ. Surely the travel arrangements were initially made for Perth and someone has decided to cancel them. I pity the poor players being faced with so much uncertainty.
            Finally, why so much condescending disrespect for Australian players like Koroibete Tupou Hooper Toomua O'connor Valetini?

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              Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

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              • ARHSA ARHS

                Surprised by the bizarre postings on this topic. Am I the only one disgusted by how Mark Robinson has played this one out in the media. I have full sympathy for Dave Rennie and the Perth rugby community. In my eyes NZRU have an awful lot of explaining to do to prove they weren't deliberately making a non decision to travel to bring pressure on others to improve their financial outcomes. Smacks of selling out our Australian friends to seek a better financial result from AB's trip out of NZ. Surely the travel arrangements were initially made for Perth and someone has decided to cancel them. I pity the poor players being faced with so much uncertainty.
                Finally, why so much condescending disrespect for Australian players like Koroibete Tupou Hooper Toomua O'connor Valetini?

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                @arhs said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                Finally, why so much condescending disrespect for Australian players like Koroibete Tupou Hooper Toomua O'connor Valetini?

                I think that there may have been some piss taking going on.

                @arhs said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                Surely the travel arrangements were initially made for Perth and someone has decided to cancel them.

                Yes, his name is Covid. He has fucked up a lot of travel plans for a lot of people.

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

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                  @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                  Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

                  That's not totally accurate I believe. They wouldn't have had to quarantine for two weeks as long as they arrived today, and they would have been allowed to train in their bubble.

                  The main issue is that if the remaining RC games don't go ahead, then the ABs won't be able to return home after the Perth test as there are no MIQ rooms available until November. That's how I read it anyway.

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                    @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                    Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

                    That's not totally accurate I believe. They wouldn't have had to quarantine for two weeks as long as they arrived today, and they would have been allowed to train in their bubble.

                    The main issue is that if the remaining RC games don't go ahead, then the ABs won't be able to return home after the Perth test as there are no MIQ rooms available until November. That's how I read it anyway.

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                    @akan004 Agree with that too. It is a complex situation and NZR have said they are looking out for the players first by not having to remain in Aust with no other games to be played before DC and the EOYT.

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

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                      @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                      Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

                      He has shown to be lacking in the necessary communication skills. It happened with the Silverlake deal too. A superior communicator could have explained what was going on quite simply

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                      • A akan004

                        @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                        Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

                        That's not totally accurate I believe. They wouldn't have had to quarantine for two weeks as long as they arrived today, and they would have been allowed to train in their bubble.

                        The main issue is that if the remaining RC games don't go ahead, then the ABs won't be able to return home after the Perth test as there are no MIQ rooms available until November. That's how I read it anyway.

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                        @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                        @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                        Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

                        That's not totally accurate I believe. They wouldn't have had to quarantine for two weeks as long as they arrived today, and they would have been allowed to train in their bubble.

                        The main issue is that if the remaining RC games don't go ahead, then the ABs won't be able to return home after the Perth test as there are no MIQ rooms available until November. That's how I read it anyway.

                        Yes agree with that,it would leave the AB’s potentially stuck in Australia with no more games.

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                        • ChrisC Chris

                          @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                          @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                          Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

                          That's not totally accurate I believe. They wouldn't have had to quarantine for two weeks as long as they arrived today, and they would have been allowed to train in their bubble.

                          The main issue is that if the remaining RC games don't go ahead, then the ABs won't be able to return home after the Perth test as there are no MIQ rooms available until November. That's how I read it anyway.

                          Yes agree with that,it would leave the AB’s potentially stuck in Australia with no more games.

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                          @chris said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                          @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                          @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                          Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

                          That's not totally accurate I believe. They wouldn't have had to quarantine for two weeks as long as they arrived today, and they would have been allowed to train in their bubble.

                          The main issue is that if the remaining RC games don't go ahead, then the ABs won't be able to return home after the Perth test as there are no MIQ rooms available until November. That's how I read it anyway.

                          Yes agree with that,it would leave the AB’s potentially stuck in Australia with no more games.

                          Surely Robinson could have explained all this?

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                          • canefanC canefan

                            @chris said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                            @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                            @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                            Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

                            That's not totally accurate I believe. They wouldn't have had to quarantine for two weeks as long as they arrived today, and they would have been allowed to train in their bubble.

                            The main issue is that if the remaining RC games don't go ahead, then the ABs won't be able to return home after the Perth test as there are no MIQ rooms available until November. That's how I read it anyway.

                            Yes agree with that,it would leave the AB’s potentially stuck in Australia with no more games.

                            Surely Robinson could have explained all this?

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                            @canefan maybe his cell went flat?

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                            • canefanC canefan

                              @chris said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                              @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                              @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                              Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

                              That's not totally accurate I believe. They wouldn't have had to quarantine for two weeks as long as they arrived today, and they would have been allowed to train in their bubble.

                              The main issue is that if the remaining RC games don't go ahead, then the ABs won't be able to return home after the Perth test as there are no MIQ rooms available until November. That's how I read it anyway.

                              Yes agree with that,it would leave the AB’s potentially stuck in Australia with no more games.

                              Surely Robinson could have explained all this?

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                              @canefan said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                              @chris said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                              @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                              @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                              Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

                              That's not totally accurate I believe. They wouldn't have had to quarantine for two weeks as long as they arrived today, and they would have been allowed to train in their bubble.

                              The main issue is that if the remaining RC games don't go ahead, then the ABs won't be able to return home after the Perth test as there are no MIQ rooms available until November. That's how I read it anyway.

                              Yes agree with that,it would leave the AB’s potentially stuck in Australia with no more games.

                              Surely Robinson could have explained all this?

                              Nah he's an arrogant cock and just says 'we're happy with our process and decisions' without explaining it, like they are not in anyway beholden to the public and stakeholders

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                                @canefan said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                @chris said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

                                That's not totally accurate I believe. They wouldn't have had to quarantine for two weeks as long as they arrived today, and they would have been allowed to train in their bubble.

                                The main issue is that if the remaining RC games don't go ahead, then the ABs won't be able to return home after the Perth test as there are no MIQ rooms available until November. That's how I read it anyway.

                                Yes agree with that,it would leave the AB’s potentially stuck in Australia with no more games.

                                Surely Robinson could have explained all this?

                                Nah he's an arrogant cock and just says 'we're happy with our process and decisions' without explaining it, like they are not in anyway beholden to the public and stakeholders

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                                @machpants said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                @canefan said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                @chris said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

                                That's not totally accurate I believe. They wouldn't have had to quarantine for two weeks as long as they arrived today, and they would have been allowed to train in their bubble.

                                The main issue is that if the remaining RC games don't go ahead, then the ABs won't be able to return home after the Perth test as there are no MIQ rooms available until November. That's how I read it anyway.

                                Yes agree with that,it would leave the AB’s potentially stuck in Australia with no more games.

                                Surely Robinson could have explained all this?

                                Nah he's an arrogant cock and just says 'we're happy with our process and decisions' without explaining it, like they are not in anyway beholden to the public and stakeholders

                                That is certainly the way he comes off. Whether he is, or just a generally shy guy (as a player he seemed pretty quiet) that doesn't cut it in his job

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                                • rotatedR rotated

                                  RTS over Koroibetee for me.

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                                  @rotated said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                  RTS over Koroibetee for me.

                                  That’s just your NZ bias talking

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                                  • canefanC canefan

                                    @chris said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                    @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                    @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                    Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

                                    That's not totally accurate I believe. They wouldn't have had to quarantine for two weeks as long as they arrived today, and they would have been allowed to train in their bubble.

                                    The main issue is that if the remaining RC games don't go ahead, then the ABs won't be able to return home after the Perth test as there are no MIQ rooms available until November. That's how I read it anyway.

                                    Yes agree with that,it would leave the AB’s potentially stuck in Australia with no more games.

                                    Surely Robinson could have explained all this?

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                                    @canefan said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                    Surely Robinson could have explained all this?

                                    He has to the players, just not to everyone else.

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      @canefan said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                      Surely Robinson could have explained all this?

                                      He has to the players, just not to everyone else.

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                                      @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                      @canefan said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                      Surely Robinson could have explained all this?

                                      He has to the players, just not to everyone else.

                                      That is my point. I'd think that if Tew was still there he'd have been all over it

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                                      • canefanC canefan

                                        @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                        @canefan said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                        Surely Robinson could have explained all this?

                                        He has to the players, just not to everyone else.

                                        That is my point. I'd think that if Tew was still there he'd have been all over it

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                                        @canefan Mitchell has been quiet as the chairman compared to Impey. Robinson has been thrown under the bus a little bit and failed miserably.

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          @canefan Mitchell has been quiet as the chairman compared to Impey. Robinson has been thrown under the bus a little bit and failed miserably.

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                                          @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                          @canefan Mitchell has been quiet as the chairman compared to Impey. Robinson has been thrown under the bus a little bit and failed miserably.

                                          Plenty of blame to go around. Let's just implicate the whole team. One for not getting the SANZAR partners on the same page, and for failing to communicate what was going on to the media before things happened

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