2021 Rugby Championship
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@crucial said in 2021 Rugby Championship:
I have to agree with Fozzie that a year on and we still haven't worked out a solution for travelling sports teams.
I can only guess that the whingers that 'hate' sport and those that want more Wiggles tours would never shut up if you put strict vaccination/testing/bubble rules in place for a rugby team.Visiting teams have to accept NZ restrictions: 3 days solo, then into smaller bubbles, then full team training last week. As pointed out non rugby teams have done it, cest la vie.
As to foster complaining about lack of creative solutions, oh the irony is thick!
@machpants said in 2021 Rugby Championship:
As to foster complaining about lack of creative solutions, oh the irony is thick!
I had to laugh at that one, Ironic indeed.
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Pumas squad for the RC:
1 Alemanno, Matías - GLOUCESTER (RFU)
2 Bertranou, Gonzalo - DRAGONS (WRU)
3 Boffelli, Emiliano - EDIMBURGH (SRU)
4 Bosch, Facundo - LA ROCHELLE (FFR)
5 Bruni, Rodrigo - VANNES (FFR)
6 Cancelliere, Sebastián - GLASGOW (SRU)
7 Carreras, Mateo - NEWCASTLE (RFU)
8 Carreras, Santiago - GLOUCESTER (RFU)
9 Chocobares, Santiago - TOULOUSE (FFR)
10 Cinti, Lucio - LA PLATA (URBA)
11 Cordero, Santiago - BORDEAUX-BEGLES (FFR)
12 Cubelli, Tomás - BIARRITZ (FFR)
13 De la Fuente, Jerónimo - PERPIGNAN (FFR)
14 Delguy, Bautista - PERPIGNAN (FFR)
15 Díaz Bonilla, Joaquín - LIBRE
16 Ezcurra, Felipe - UAR
17 Fernandez Criado, Rodrigo - BELGRANO ATHLETIC (URBA)
18 Gallo, Thomas - BENETTON TREVISO (FIR)
19 Gigena, Facundo - LONDON IRISH (RFU)
20 Gomez Kodela, Francisco - LYON (FFR)
21 González Samso, Juan Martín - MARISTA (CUYO)
22 Gorrissen, Francisco - UAR
23 Isa, Facundo - TOULON (FFR)
24 Kremer, Marcos - STADE FRANCAIS (FFR)
25 Lavanini, Tomás - CLERMONT (FFR)
26 Lezana, Tomás - SCARLETS (WRU)
27 Mallía, Juan Cruz - TOULOUSE (FFR)
28 Mare, Santiago - UAR
29 Martínez Manzano, Rodrigo - LOS TORDOS (CUYO)
30 Matera, Pablo - LIBRE
31 Medrano, Santiago - FORCE (ARU)
32 Mendy, Ignacio - UAR
33 Miotti, Domingo - GLASGOW (SRU)
34 Moneta, Marcos - SAN ANDRÉS (URBA)
35 Montoya, Julián (capitán) - LEICESTER (RFU)
36 Moroni, Matías - LEICESTER (RFU)
37 Muzzio, Carlos - MONT DE MARSAN (FFR)
38 Orlando, Matías - NEWCASTLE (RFU)
39 Oviedo, Joaquín - PERPIGNAN (FFR)
40 Petti, Guido - BORDEAUX-BEGLES (FFR)
41 Pieretto, Enrique - GLASGOW (SRU)
42 Ruiz, Ignacio - REGATAS (URBA)
43 Sánchez, Nicolás - STADE FRANCAIS (FFR)
44 Sclavi, Joel - LA ROCHELLE (FFR)
45 Socino, Santiago - GLOUCESTER (RFU)
46 Tetaz Chaparro, Nahuel - BENETTON TREVISO (FIR)
47 Zeiss, Juan Pablo - UARmedia release in Spanish: https://lospumas.com.ar/2021/07/29/plantel-confirmado-de-los-pumas-para-el-zurich-rugby-championship/
articles in English:Rugby Championship 2021: 47-man roster confirmed by Argentina
Rugby Championship 2021: Argentina Missing XVWhen compared to the roster from the 2020 Tri Nations, there are eleven names missing. They are forwards José Luis González, Ignacio Calles, Ignacio Calas, Lucio Sordoni, Mayco Vivas, Federico Wegrzyn, Santiago Grondona and backs Tomás Albornoz, Juan Imhoff, Lucas Mensa and Ramiro Moyano.
Multiple factors explain why the above names are not selected for the 2021 tournament. Some players are sidelined with injuries, others were wider roster options who have recently joined teams abroad and some are simply out of favor. ...
Since the team naming, yesterday, the news has come out that Tomás Cubelli needs surgery on his hand. He'll be replaced.
Also, props Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro and Francisco Gómez Kodela will only be available for the South African leg of the RC. -
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https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1422361605400981510
New Zealand Rugby (NZR) has announced Eden Park in Auckland will host back-to-back Bledisloe Cup Tests against Australia on Saturday 7 August and Saturday 14 August.
Confirmation of the venues and dates means the second Bledisloe Cup Series Test, which is now also the opening match of the newly-named Fortinet Rugby Championship, has been moved from Sky Stadium in Wellington, where it was originally scheduled to be played on Saturday 28 August.
SANZAAR has also confirmed the third and final Bledisloe Cup Test will be played at Optus Stadium in Perth where the two teams will meet on Saturday 28 August, a week later than first scheduled.
The revised schedule means New Zealand will now not be hosting the two Fortinet Rugby Championship Tests against Argentina, which had been scheduled for Eden Park in Auckland on 11 September and Sky Stadium in Wellington on 18 September. They will now be played in Australia, with details of the matches to be announced by SANZAAR in due course.
NZR is continuing to plan for two Tests against South Africa, at Forsyth Barr Stadium in Dunedin on Saturday 25 September, and at Eden Park on Saturday 2 October.
Fans who have purchased tickets for any of the three affected Tests will receive a full refund and should expect to be contacted by the relevant ticket providers Ticketmaster and Ticketek in due course. -
considering where we are at over here, i am pretty annoyed that suddenly rugby teams are just allowed to move around not just between states, but over the Ta$man.
I will keep banging this drum. Locking people in their houses, but allowing pro sports to move around and play is some shitty shit.
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considering where we are at over here, i am pretty annoyed that suddenly rugby teams are just allowed to move around not just between states, but over the Ta$man.
I will keep banging this drum. Locking people in their houses, but allowing pro sports to move around and play is some shitty shit.
@mariner4life I can't agree
Robertson said allowing the Wallabies in on an exemption was a "very specific set of circumstances" and comparable to New Zealanders being able to return from Queensland until Friday without going into managed isolation. -
considering where we are at over here, i am pretty annoyed that suddenly rugby teams are just allowed to move around not just between states, but over the Ta$man.
I will keep banging this drum. Locking people in their houses, but allowing pro sports to move around and play is some shitty shit.
@mariner4life said in 2021 Rugby Championship:
considering where we are at over here, i am pretty annoyed that suddenly rugby teams are just allowed to move around not just between states, but over the Ta$man.
I will keep banging this drum. Locking people in their houses, but allowing pro sports to move around and play is some shitty shit.
I'm going to bang the hi hat, they can lock me in my house, but they have to keep the rugby on for me to watch while they're doing it.
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@KiwiMurph don't agree with me, or Robertson?
Aussies getting to NZ i can sort of see. Everyone now getting to WA though?
@Nepia look from that stand point i totally agree, you can't take everything away (thank fuck for horse racing last year).
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@KiwiMurph don't agree with me, or Robertson?
Aussies getting to NZ i can sort of see. Everyone now getting to WA though?
@Nepia look from that stand point i totally agree, you can't take everything away (thank fuck for horse racing last year).
@mariner4life said in 2021 Rugby Championship:
don't agree with me, or Robertson?
I don't agree with you.
Everyone now getting to WA though?Going by the WA border website - NZ is considered very low risk - i.e. quarantine is currently not required when travelling from NZ to WA - the issue is getting back to NZ.
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@mariner4life said in 2021 Rugby Championship:
don't agree with me, or Robertson?
I don't agree with you.
Everyone now getting to WA though?Going by the WA border website - NZ is considered very low risk - i.e. quarantine is currently not required when travelling from NZ to WA - the issue is getting back to NZ.
@kiwimurph said in 2021 Rugby Championship:
@mariner4life said in 2021 Rugby Championship:
don't agree with me, or Robertson?
I don't agree with you.
Everyone now getting to WA though?Going by the WA border website - NZ is considered very low risk - i.e. quarantine is currently not required when travelling from NZ to WA - the issue is getting back to NZ.
mate, you are never going to convince me. We are looking at this through different lenses.
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@kiwimurph said in 2021 Rugby Championship:
@mariner4life said in 2021 Rugby Championship:
don't agree with me, or Robertson?
I don't agree with you.
Everyone now getting to WA though?Going by the WA border website - NZ is considered very low risk - i.e. quarantine is currently not required when travelling from NZ to WA - the issue is getting back to NZ.
mate, you are never going to convince me. We are looking at this through different lenses.
@mariner4life said in 2021 Rugby Championship:
@kiwimurph said in 2021 Rugby Championship:
@mariner4life said in 2021 Rugby Championship:
don't agree with me, or Robertson?
I don't agree with you.
Everyone now getting to WA though?Going by the WA border website - NZ is considered very low risk - i.e. quarantine is currently not required when travelling from NZ to WA - the issue is getting back to NZ.
mate, you are never going to convince me. We are looking at this through different lenses.
Not trying to convince you, but I guess the way in Oz to look at it is these sports are businesses and business travellers appear to have been getting exemptions throughout the pandemic.
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@mariner4life said in 2021 Rugby Championship:
don't agree with me, or Robertson?
I don't agree with you.
Everyone now getting to WA though?Going by the WA border website - NZ is considered very low risk - i.e. quarantine is currently not required when travelling from NZ to WA - the issue is getting back to NZ.
@kiwimurph yup kiwis can get into WA.
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New 2021 RUGBY CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH SCHEDULE
Sat 14 August: New Zealand v Australia* at Eden Park, Auckland
Sat 14 August: South Africa v Argentina at Nelson Mandela Stadium, Port Elizabeth
Sat 21 August: Argentina v South Africa at Nelson Mandela Stadium, Port Elizabeth
Sat 28 August: Australia v New Zealand* at Optus Stadium, Perth
TBC: New Zealand v Argentina [to be played in Australia]
**South Africa v Australia [scheduled 12 Sept, SCG, Sydney]
**Australia v South Africa [scheduled 18 Sept, Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane]
TBC: Argentina v New Zealand [to be played in Australia]
**New Zealand v South Africa [scheduled 25 Sept, Forsyth Barr Stadium, Dunedin]
**Australia v Argentina [scheduled 25 Sept, McDonald Jones Stadium, Newcastle]
**South Africa v New Zealand [scheduled 2 October, Eden Park, Auckland]
**Argentina v Australia [scheduled 2 October, GIO Stadium, Canberra]
(* Bledisloe Cup matches; ** schedule subject to change due to government/health authority pandemic regulations; TBC - to be confirmed)
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Boks starting lineup against NZ in 2019:
15Willie Le Roux, FB
14Cheslin Kolbe, W
13Lukhanyo Am, C
12Damian de Allende, C
11Makazole Mapimpi, W
10Handre Pollard, FH
9Faf de Klerk, SH
1Steven Kitshoff, P
2Malcolm Marx, H
3Frans Malherbe, P
4Eben Etzebeth, L
5Franco Mostert, L
6Siya Kolisi, FL
7Pieter-Steph du Toit, FL T
8Duane Vermeulen, N8Amazing continuity! I don’t think they’ve gotten any better.
My instinct is that ABs will handle them.
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Boks starting lineup against NZ in 2019:
15Willie Le Roux, FB
14Cheslin Kolbe, W
13Lukhanyo Am, C
12Damian de Allende, C
11Makazole Mapimpi, W
10Handre Pollard, FH
9Faf de Klerk, SH
1Steven Kitshoff, P
2Malcolm Marx, H
3Frans Malherbe, P
4Eben Etzebeth, L
5Franco Mostert, L
6Siya Kolisi, FL
7Pieter-Steph du Toit, FL T
8Duane Vermeulen, N8Amazing continuity! I don’t think they’ve gotten any better.
My instinct is that ABs will handle them.
@pakman not sure in the tight forwards we have ascendancy..
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@pakman not sure in the tight forwards we have ascendancy..
@nostrildamus said in 2021 Rugby Championship:
@pakman not sure in the tight forwards we have ascendancy..
By handle, I didn't mean get on top. But starting five of Joe/Codie/Nepo/Sam/Brodie will hold their own.
If they have PSDT and Thor back we may be under pressure a bit in loose forwards, albeit ours are faster.
Their inside backs are less dangerous than Wallabies.
If we can get some fast ball, I'd expect us to score some fives, whereas they'll be looking for threes, with maybe a maul try thrown in.
