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2021 Rugby Championship

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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    @mariner4life said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

    don't agree with me, or Robertson?

    I don't agree with you.

    Everyone now getting to WA though?
    

    Going by the WA border website - NZ is considered very low risk - i.e. quarantine is currently not required when travelling from NZ to WA - the issue is getting back to NZ.

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    @kiwimurph yup kiwis can get into WA.

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      New 2021 RUGBY CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH SCHEDULE

      Sat 14 August: New Zealand v Australia* at Eden Park, Auckland

      Sat 14 August: South Africa v Argentina at Nelson Mandela Stadium, Port Elizabeth

      Sat 21 August: Argentina v South Africa at Nelson Mandela Stadium, Port Elizabeth

      Sat 28 August: Australia v New Zealand* at Optus Stadium, Perth

      TBC: New Zealand v Argentina [to be played in Australia]

      **South Africa v Australia [scheduled 12 Sept, SCG, Sydney]

      **Australia v South Africa [scheduled 18 Sept, Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane]

      TBC: Argentina v New Zealand [to be played in Australia]

      **New Zealand v South Africa [scheduled 25 Sept, Forsyth Barr Stadium, Dunedin]

      **Australia v Argentina [scheduled 25 Sept, McDonald Jones Stadium, Newcastle]

      **South Africa v New Zealand [scheduled 2 October, Eden Park, Auckland]

      **Argentina v Australia [scheduled 2 October, GIO Stadium, Canberra]

      (* Bledisloe Cup matches; ** schedule subject to change due to government/health authority pandemic regulations; TBC - to be confirmed)

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        These are the refereeing appointments released so far. Nothing about the Perth test yet.

        Screen Shot 2021-08-06 at 09.41.00.png

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          Boks starting lineup against NZ in 2019:
          15Willie Le Roux, FB
          14Cheslin Kolbe, W
          13Lukhanyo Am, C
          12Damian de Allende, C
          11Makazole Mapimpi, W
          10Handre Pollard, FH
          9Faf de Klerk, SH
          1Steven Kitshoff, P
          2Malcolm Marx, H
          3Frans Malherbe, P
          4Eben Etzebeth, L
          5Franco Mostert, L
          6Siya Kolisi, FL
          7Pieter-Steph du Toit, FL T
          8Duane Vermeulen, N8

          Amazing continuity! I don’t think they’ve gotten any better.

          My instinct is that ABs will handle them.

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            Boks starting lineup against NZ in 2019:
            15Willie Le Roux, FB
            14Cheslin Kolbe, W
            13Lukhanyo Am, C
            12Damian de Allende, C
            11Makazole Mapimpi, W
            10Handre Pollard, FH
            9Faf de Klerk, SH
            1Steven Kitshoff, P
            2Malcolm Marx, H
            3Frans Malherbe, P
            4Eben Etzebeth, L
            5Franco Mostert, L
            6Siya Kolisi, FL
            7Pieter-Steph du Toit, FL T
            8Duane Vermeulen, N8

            Amazing continuity! I don’t think they’ve gotten any better.

            My instinct is that ABs will handle them.

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            @pakman not sure in the tight forwards we have ascendancy..

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            • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

              @pakman not sure in the tight forwards we have ascendancy..

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              @nostrildamus said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

              @pakman not sure in the tight forwards we have ascendancy..

              By handle, I didn't mean get on top. But starting five of Joe/Codie/Nepo/Sam/Brodie will hold their own.

              If they have PSDT and Thor back we may be under pressure a bit in loose forwards, albeit ours are faster.

              Their inside backs are less dangerous than Wallabies.

              If we can get some fast ball, I'd expect us to score some fives, whereas they'll be looking for threes, with maybe a maul try thrown in.

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                @nostrildamus said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                @pakman not sure in the tight forwards we have ascendancy..

                By handle, I didn't mean get on top. But starting five of Joe/Codie/Nepo/Sam/Brodie will hold their own.

                If they have PSDT and Thor back we may be under pressure a bit in loose forwards, albeit ours are faster.

                Their inside backs are less dangerous than Wallabies.

                If we can get some fast ball, I'd expect us to score some fives, whereas they'll be looking for threes, with maybe a maul try thrown in.

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                @pakman said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                @nostrildamus said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                @pakman not sure in the tight forwards we have ascendancy..

                By handle, I didn't mean get on top. But starting five of Joe/Codie/Nepo/Sam/Brodie will hold their own.

                If they have PSDT and Thor back we may be under pressure a bit in loose forwards, albeit ours are faster.

                Their inside backs are less dangerous than Wallabies.

                If we can get some fast ball, I'd expect us to score some fives, whereas they'll be looking for threes, with maybe a maul try thrown in.

                Yes could be, and much depends on their 9, I'd say a maul try attempt would be highly likely.

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                  https://twitter.com/SuperRugby/status/1424535855117398025

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                    Springboks squad for the Rugby Championship:

                    Props: Thomas du Toit, Steven Kitshoff, Vincent Koch, Wilco Louw, Frans Malherbe, Ox Nché, Trevor Nyakane.

                    Hookers: Joseph Dweba, Johan Grobbelaar, Malcolm Marx, Bongi Mbonambi.

                    Locks: Lood de Jager, Eben Etzebeth, Nicolaas Janse van Rensburg, Franco Mostert, Marvin Orie, RG Snyman.

                    Loose forwards: Siya Kolisi, Kwagga Smith, Marco van Staden, Duane Vermeulen, Jasper Wiese, Dan du Preez.

                    Utility forward: Rynhardt Elstadt.

                    Scrumhalves: Faf de Klerk, Jaden Henrikse, Herschel Jantjies, Cobus Reinach.

                    Flyhalves: Elton Jantjies, Handré Pollard, Morné Steyn.

                    Midfielders: Lukhanyo Am, Damian de Allende, Jesse Kriel.

                    Outside Backs: Aphelele Fassi, Cheslin Kolbe, Willie le Roux, Makazole Mapimpi, Sbu Nkosi, Rosko Specman.

                    Utility backs: Damian Willemse, Frans Steyn.


                    Media release: https://www.springboks.rugby/news-features/articles/2021/08/08/boks-switch-focus-to-rugby-championship/

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                      Springboks squad for the Rugby Championship:

                      Props: Thomas du Toit, Steven Kitshoff, Vincent Koch, Wilco Louw, Frans Malherbe, Ox Nché, Trevor Nyakane.

                      Hookers: Joseph Dweba, Johan Grobbelaar, Malcolm Marx, Bongi Mbonambi.

                      Locks: Lood de Jager, Eben Etzebeth, Nicolaas Janse van Rensburg, Franco Mostert, Marvin Orie, RG Snyman.

                      Loose forwards: Siya Kolisi, Kwagga Smith, Marco van Staden, Duane Vermeulen, Jasper Wiese, Dan du Preez.

                      Utility forward: Rynhardt Elstadt.

                      Scrumhalves: Faf de Klerk, Jaden Henrikse, Herschel Jantjies, Cobus Reinach.

                      Flyhalves: Elton Jantjies, Handré Pollard, Morné Steyn.

                      Midfielders: Lukhanyo Am, Damian de Allende, Jesse Kriel.

                      Outside Backs: Aphelele Fassi, Cheslin Kolbe, Willie le Roux, Makazole Mapimpi, Sbu Nkosi, Rosko Specman.

                      Utility backs: Damian Willemse, Frans Steyn.


                      Media release: https://www.springboks.rugby/news-features/articles/2021/08/08/boks-switch-focus-to-rugby-championship/

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                      @stargazer No pieter steph du toit?

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                        @stargazer No pieter steph du toit?

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                        @toddy injured
                        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/pieter-steph-du-toit-not-included-in-springboks-42-man-rc-squad/

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                          OomPB
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                          Springbok team made 10 changes for Saturdays Puma test

                          Springbok team: 15 Damian Willemse, 14 Sbu Nkosi, 13 Jesse Kriel, 12 Frans Steyn, 11 Aphelele Fassi, 10 Elton Jantjies, 9 Cobus Reinach, 8 Jasper Wiese, 7 Kwagga Smith, 6 Siya Kolisi (capt), 5 Lood de Jager, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Wilco Louw (Harlequins, England), 2 Joseph Dweba, 1 Ox Nche

                          Substitutes: 16 Malcolm Marx, 17 Trevor Nyakane, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Marvin Orie, 20 Marco van Staden, 21 Dan du Preez, 22 Herschel Jantjies, 23 Morne Steyn

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                            One hundred years today since the first test, and the hundredth test coming up - Foster's follies Vs world champion world number 1 lion tamers

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                              Rennie reckons the entire rest of the RC will need in Perth, aside from SA v Argentina.
                              ABs will drip feed in extra numbers, makes sense. No one has opted out of tour yet.

                              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/bledisloe-cup-rugby-all-blacks-to-leave-some-players-at-home-next-week/4VEA47JX7PEF7QUSLC6L6S3L4Q/

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                                Rennie reckons the entire rest of the RC will need in Perth, aside from SA v Argentina.
                                ABs will drip feed in extra numbers, makes sense. No one has opted out of tour yet.

                                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/bledisloe-cup-rugby-all-blacks-to-leave-some-players-at-home-next-week/4VEA47JX7PEF7QUSLC6L6S3L4Q/

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                                @machpants said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                Rennie reckons the entire rest of the RC will need in Perth, aside from SA v Argentina.
                                ABs will drip feed in extra numbers, makes sense. No one has opted out of tour yet.

                                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/bledisloe-cup-rugby-all-blacks-to-leave-some-players-at-home-next-week/4VEA47JX7PEF7QUSLC6L6S3L4Q/

                                So why is TRC being played in Perth, when Oz has a much higher threat of a covid outbreak there right now? (considering they currently have an outbreak in the country) Wouldn't it have made more sense to stage it in NZ?

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                                  @machpants said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                  Rennie reckons the entire rest of the RC will need in Perth, aside from SA v Argentina.
                                  ABs will drip feed in extra numbers, makes sense. No one has opted out of tour yet.

                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/bledisloe-cup-rugby-all-blacks-to-leave-some-players-at-home-next-week/4VEA47JX7PEF7QUSLC6L6S3L4Q/

                                  So why is TRC being played in Perth, when Oz has a much higher threat of a covid outbreak there right now? (considering they currently have an outbreak in the country) Wouldn't it have made more sense to stage it in NZ?

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                                  @canefan said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                  @machpants said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                  Rennie reckons the entire rest of the RC will need in Perth, aside from SA v Argentina.
                                  ABs will drip feed in extra numbers, makes sense. No one has opted out of tour yet.

                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/bledisloe-cup-rugby-all-blacks-to-leave-some-players-at-home-next-week/4VEA47JX7PEF7QUSLC6L6S3L4Q/

                                  So why is TRC being played in Perth, when Oz has a much higher threat of a covid outbreak there right now? (considering they currently have an outbreak in the country) Wouldn't it have made more sense to stage it in NZ?

                                  Answered before, there are no places for the Boks and Arg to come in here in MIQ. They've already got places booked, for months, in Oz. In addition, like last year even if there were places here, the MIQ requirements are much stricter in NZ. In Oz they can train as a team from Day 1.

                                  EDIT: Originaly the idea was they'd both MIQ in OZ, training from Day 1, then they could use the buuble to travel to NZ.

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                                    @machpants said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                    Rennie reckons the entire rest of the RC will need in Perth, aside from SA v Argentina.
                                    ABs will drip feed in extra numbers, makes sense. No one has opted out of tour yet.

                                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/bledisloe-cup-rugby-all-blacks-to-leave-some-players-at-home-next-week/4VEA47JX7PEF7QUSLC6L6S3L4Q/

                                    So why is TRC being played in Perth, when Oz has a much higher threat of a covid outbreak there right now? (considering they currently have an outbreak in the country) Wouldn't it have made more sense to stage it in NZ?

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                                    @canefan Perth well WA currently has a 7 day average of zero and they've just implemented special rules for boats attempting to visit.

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                                      Wonder who will be left at home? Assume 30 or so will travel to Perth.

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                                        Rennie reckons the entire rest of the RC will need in Perth, aside from SA v Argentina.
                                        ABs will drip feed in extra numbers, makes sense. No one has opted out of tour yet.

                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/bledisloe-cup-rugby-all-blacks-to-leave-some-players-at-home-next-week/4VEA47JX7PEF7QUSLC6L6S3L4Q/

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                                        @machpants said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                        Rennie reckons the entire rest of the RC will need in Perth, aside from SA v Argentina.
                                        ABs will drip feed in extra numbers, makes sense. No one has opted out of tour yet.

                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/bledisloe-cup-rugby-all-blacks-to-leave-some-players-at-home-next-week/4VEA47JX7PEF7QUSLC6L6S3L4Q/

                                        Whole thing should be in New Zealand, but perhaps they can sell more tickets in Perth?

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                                          We better hope the ABs already left, or there is no way the God King of the Democratic Peoples Republic of Western Australia is letting them in

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