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All Blacks 2021

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  • C cgrant

    Fidow would have been a good hooker IMO. He played as a hooker in one game during the 2017 U20 WC if my memory does not betray me, and was rather convincing. His main (and big) flaw is his scrummaging. Playing with the Nr.2 jersey would have bypassed this problem.

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    @cgrant or was it Apisai who dabbled in prop?

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    • C cgrant

      Fidow would have been a good hooker IMO. He played as a hooker in one game during the 2017 U20 WC if my memory does not betray me, and was rather convincing. His main (and big) flaw is his scrummaging. Playing with the Nr.2 jersey would have bypassed this problem.

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      @cgrant said in All Blacks 2021:

      Fidow would have been a good hooker IMO. He played as a hooker in one game during the 2017 U20 WC if my memory does not betray me, and was rather convincing. His main (and big) flaw is his scrummaging. Playing with the Nr.2 jersey would have bypassed this problem.

      Correct. He came off the bench replacing JP Sauni at hooker in the pool game against Italy.

      https://www.world.rugby/match/23976

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      • BonesB Bones

        @cgrant or was it Apisai who dabbled in prop?

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        @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

        @cgrant or was it Apisai who dabbled in prop?

        Don't think so. But Riccitelli was originally selected as a prop. A couple of Manawatu players also played or covered prop at U20 level, but became hookers later on (Tim Cadwallader, Nick Grogan). Coltman covered a bit of prop too.

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          The impression I get from Fidow is that he's happy to be a bench player for the Canes and not much else. He should really have progressed by now but you can't engender someone with aspiration if they just don't have it.

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          • F Frye

            The impression I get from Fidow is that he's happy to be a bench player for the Canes and not much else. He should really have progressed by now but you can't engender someone with aspiration if they just don't have it.

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            @frye the thing with Fidow is that he was alot more dominant when he had a few more kgs on his belt. I feel Chris Gibbes made him lose too much and now he just doesn't have the same impact as he used to. I thought his scrummaging would have come along by now but it just hasn't happened, making me think he could be more suited to the backrow.

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            • No QuarterN No Quarter

              When the 3rd halfback is fucking Weber who is barely Super standard then it's hardly surprising they immediately throw TJP back in given his experience.

              I'd have given the 3rd place to Christie, at least he's young and has the potential to improve. Weber is a waste of space.

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              @no-quarter said in All Blacks 2021:

              When the 3rd halfback is fucking Weber who is barely Super standard then it's hardly surprising they immediately throw TJP back in given his experience.

              I'd have given the 3rd place to Christie, at least he's young and has the potential to improve. Weber is a waste of space.

              Weber is the best option we have as a like for like with Smith at the moment. These selectors have made it clear that their priority for a 9 is speed to the ruck. That was apparently TJPs work on while in Japan.
              I think that Weber is only holding Fakatava's spot warm anyway.

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                @no-quarter said in All Blacks 2021:

                When the 3rd halfback is fucking Weber who is barely Super standard then it's hardly surprising they immediately throw TJP back in given his experience.

                I'd have given the 3rd place to Christie, at least he's young and has the potential to improve. Weber is a waste of space.

                Weber is the best option we have as a like for like with Smith at the moment. These selectors have made it clear that their priority for a 9 is speed to the ruck. That was apparently TJPs work on while in Japan.
                I think that Weber is only holding Fakatava's spot warm anyway.

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                @crucial said in All Blacks 2021:

                @no-quarter said in All Blacks 2021:

                When the 3rd halfback is fucking Weber who is barely Super standard then it's hardly surprising they immediately throw TJP back in given his experience.

                I'd have given the 3rd place to Christie, at least he's young and has the potential to improve. Weber is a waste of space.

                Weber is the best option we have as a like for like with Smith at the moment. These selectors have made it clear that their priority for a 9 is speed to the ruck. That was apparently TJPs work on while in Japan.
                I think that Weber is only holding Fakatava's spot warm anyway.

                He will be holding it for another two years, it'll be quite toasty by then!

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                  Canes4life
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                  #1726

                  What would everyone like to see more - North vs South matches OR All Blacks playing provincial rugby?

                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/125845566/all-blacks-bledisloe-cup-tests-in-turmoil-after-government-pauses-travel-bubble

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                    I did see a headline earlier in the week that the Wallabies were trying to leave Aust early. That would still mean the Perth test would be in doubt.

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                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                      What would everyone like to see more - North vs South matches OR All Blacks playing provincial rugby?

                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/125845566/all-blacks-bledisloe-cup-tests-in-turmoil-after-government-pauses-travel-bubble

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                      @canes4life that headline should read After Gladys Fucked the Bubble.

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                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                        What would everyone like to see more - North vs South matches OR All Blacks playing provincial rugby?

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/125845566/all-blacks-bledisloe-cup-tests-in-turmoil-after-government-pauses-travel-bubble

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                        #1729

                        @canes4life The cancelling of the travel bubble was surely always a possibility?

                        A good plan B would be to hold a North Vs South game at Eden Park on the 7th, then back to back tests in Wellington on 21st August and 28th August.

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                          Updated info:

                          The first Test of the Bledisloe Cup series was due to be played at Eden Park on Aug. 7, with the Wallabies originally planning to travel to Auckland next week after regrouping on the Gold Coast on Sunday and preparing for a week in Australia. But they may be forced to travel across the ditch much sooner, pending exemptions from the New Zealand Government. The bulk of the Wallabies squad has remained in Queensland following the 2-1 series win over France, although Brumbies players were permitted to return to Canberra earlier this week. Given Queensland has only had a small number of recent cases, it may be that Rugby Australia [RA] is granted an exemption for the Wallabies to travel to New Zealand and avoid hotel quarantine ahead of the first Test.

                          As long as no one is in NSW they may be OK to travel.

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                            Updated info:

                            The first Test of the Bledisloe Cup series was due to be played at Eden Park on Aug. 7, with the Wallabies originally planning to travel to Auckland next week after regrouping on the Gold Coast on Sunday and preparing for a week in Australia. But they may be forced to travel across the ditch much sooner, pending exemptions from the New Zealand Government. The bulk of the Wallabies squad has remained in Queensland following the 2-1 series win over France, although Brumbies players were permitted to return to Canberra earlier this week. Given Queensland has only had a small number of recent cases, it may be that Rugby Australia [RA] is granted an exemption for the Wallabies to travel to New Zealand and avoid hotel quarantine ahead of the first Test.

                            As long as no one is in NSW they may be OK to travel.

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                            @bovidae exemptions aren't handed over easily. I doubt they get exemptions. Best case scenario is quarantine like last year imo.

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                            • sparkyS sparky

                              @canes4life The cancelling of the travel bubble was surely always a possibility?

                              A good plan B would be to hold a North Vs South game at Eden Park on the 7th, then back to back tests in Wellington on 21st August and 28th August.

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                              @sparky Two Bledisloe's is plenty anyway.

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                                @bovidae exemptions aren't handed over easily. I doubt they get exemptions. Best case scenario is quarantine like last year imo.

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                                @kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @bovidae exemptions aren't handed over easily. I doubt they get exemptions. Best case scenario is quarantine like last year imo.

                                Arden did say if the Wallabies could arrive in NZ in the next 7 days and put up a good economic case,They would not have to quarantine.

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                                  fuck Covid, just fuck it!!

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                                    So Wallabies get here in 7 days, but they have to then stay here for entire RC, SA and Arg too. Really the only way it can work with no bubble - might be a cut down version like last year but here rather than in oz

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                                      So Wallabies get here in 7 days, but they have to then stay here for entire RC, SA and Arg too. Really the only way it can work with no bubble - might be a cut down version like last year but here rather than in oz

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                                      @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      So Wallabies get here in 7 days, but they have to then stay here for entire RC, SA and Arg too. Really the only way it can work with no bubble - might be a cut down version like last year but here rather than in oz

                                      That looks likely

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                                        Stargazer
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                                        This is the NZR media release:

                                        Bledisloe Cup and the Rugby Championship Covid-19 update

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                                          Yeetyaah
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                                          Give us North vs South 3 game series.

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