All Blacks 2021

nostrildamus

With Richie out, if something happened to BB (and omitting the backups on tour) I've been trying to think who would be the 10 back home they could take and I can't think of one..

Kiwiwomble

@kirwan i agree with you, i was joking about fozzie making surprising selections

Machpants

@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:

So tens would be BB, DM as cover, and I'd go for TJ as break in case of emergency.

Let DH focus on 12, same as Akira at 6, and let them both develop as specialists.

There are 3 capped ABs 10s on the tour, more than enough

KiwiMurph

@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:

So tens would be BB, DM as cover, and I'd go for TJ as break in case of emergency.

Let DH focus on 12, same as Akira at 6, and let them both develop as specialists.

Jordie is ahead of TJ as a 10 surely.

Bovidae

We aren't playing Namibia.

BB at 10, JB at 15. DMac to cover both off the bench. SB to stay on the field this time.

broughie

@bovidae I know TJ has his detractors for obvious reasons but he might actually be better starting a game. He will never be Aaron Smith but if he keeps it in the forwards he should be fine.

Chris B.

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

With Richie out, if something happened to BB (and omitting the backups on tour) I've been trying to think who would be the 10 back home they could take and I can't think of one..

It is probably Mitch Hunt.

Nepia

@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

We aren't playing Namibia.

BB at 10, JB at 15. DMac to cover both off the bench. SB to stay on the field this time.

Bridge and Reece to start so they can be blamed for the loss this time round.

broughie

@chris-b Another wee man. I think I would look a Ioane first.

ARHS

I expected to see Harry Plummer added to the squad. Maybe good for Ofa T to be training over there if level 4 continues in Auckland.

Hooroo

@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

dead set, if the Wallabies can't beat that team tehn they may as well pack it in for good.

Best hooker? not there
Best lock? Not there
Best player and also best 9? Not there
Best 10? Not there

3 of those are our most influential players.

Is Retallick not travelling? I thought only Whitelock was remaining behind?

Dan54

@crucial said in All Blacks 2021:

I know this has been mentioned before but some of these players need some basic birds and bees lessons.

You all know when the scheduled break in the pro year is. Time your rooting accordingly. Certainly not 9 months before a tournament.

C,mon man, a man can't go without 9 months before a 3 month rugby series (which basically it is) , the ting I am disappointed in they didn't make sure their wives were bright enough to take contraception through the required period!!!!:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

ACT Crusader

@broughie said in All Blacks 2021:

@chris-b Another wee man. I think I would look a Ioane first.

Not playing much 10 in recent times. Mitch is at least in form.

Brett Cameron has he left NZ yet? Thanks Foxy.

ACT Crusader

9 - TJ. Perenara
10 - B. Barrett
11 - R. Ioane
12 - D. Havili
13 - A. Lienert-Brown
14 - S. Reece
15 - J. Barrett

21 - B. Weber
22 - D. McKenzie
23 - B. Ennor

booboo

@kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

@act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

@gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

@act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

@yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2021:

@act-crusader better captain than a few others named. Horses for courses ‍️

Weber has started 1 test, I can’t see how he’s even in the discussion for AB captain.

All the other names have decent AB experience on top of their provincial/franchise captaincy.

Tuipoluto, Scott Barrett, Beauden Barrett, Taylor, Savea, Retallick, Coles, Perenara - all played 40+ tests.

I’d give it to Beauden Barrett. Guaranteed to start, highly likely to play 80, and has captained the ABs previously.

Luke Whitelock captained the All Blacks in his second game.

But he has legendary status….

but in all seriousness that was a game not a test match and an AB lineup that had AB stalwarts like Matt Duffie, Tim Perry, Dom Bird, Sopoaga, JTA!

Sopoaga played well in Black!

Amazing that he only started 2 tests.

A magnificent debut at Ellis Park in 2015 being one.

The other being probably his worst game in black - at 10 at Suncorp in a dead rubber Bledisloe in 2017.

Obviously a lot of focus on the Boks and Argie but i'm interested how ABs handle the Perth test. ABs often falter in these dead rubber Bledisloe tests.

If his first was magnificent, and his second wasn't then you're probably right.

KiwiMurph

@booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

@kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

@act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

@gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

@act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

@yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2021:

@act-crusader better captain than a few others named. Horses for courses ‍️

Weber has started 1 test, I can’t see how he’s even in the discussion for AB captain.

All the other names have decent AB experience on top of their provincial/franchise captaincy.

Tuipoluto, Scott Barrett, Beauden Barrett, Taylor, Savea, Retallick, Coles, Perenara - all played 40+ tests.

I’d give it to Beauden Barrett. Guaranteed to start, highly likely to play 80, and has captained the ABs previously.

Luke Whitelock captained the All Blacks in his second game.

But he has legendary status….

but in all seriousness that was a game not a test match and an AB lineup that had AB stalwarts like Matt Duffie, Tim Perry, Dom Bird, Sopoaga, JTA!

Sopoaga played well in Black!

Amazing that he only started 2 tests.

A magnificent debut at Ellis Park in 2015 being one.

The other being probably his worst game in black - at 10 at Suncorp in a dead rubber Bledisloe in 2017.

Obviously a lot of focus on the Boks and Argie but i'm interested how ABs handle the Perth test. ABs often falter in these dead rubber Bledisloe tests.

If his first was magnificent, and his second wasn't then you're probably right.

Haha. He also played 14 tests off the bench for the ABs which I was factoring in to the Brisbane performance.

booboo

@arhs said in All Blacks 2021:

I expected to see Harry Plummer added to the squad. Maybe good for Ofa T to be training over there if level 4 continues in Auckland.

As 10? Ehh... like him but not sure he's the next best 10 option. Hunt for me.

taniwharugby

@booboo ha i read it like that too, but went and checked as I thought he had played more than 2 tests

booboo

@kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:

@booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

@kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

@act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

@gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

@act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

@yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2021:

@act-crusader better captain than a few others named. Horses for courses ‍️

Weber has started 1 test, I can’t see how he’s even in the discussion for AB captain.

All the other names have decent AB experience on top of their provincial/franchise captaincy.

Tuipoluto, Scott Barrett, Beauden Barrett, Taylor, Savea, Retallick, Coles, Perenara - all played 40+ tests.

I’d give it to Beauden Barrett. Guaranteed to start, highly likely to play 80, and has captained the ABs previously.

Luke Whitelock captained the All Blacks in his second game.

But he has legendary status….

but in all seriousness that was a game not a test match and an AB lineup that had AB stalwarts like Matt Duffie, Tim Perry, Dom Bird, Sopoaga, JTA!

Sopoaga played well in Black!

Amazing that he only started 2 tests.

A magnificent debut at Ellis Park in 2015 being one.

The other being probably his worst game in black - at 10 at Suncorp in a dead rubber Bledisloe in 2017.

Obviously a lot of focus on the Boks and Argie but i'm interested how ABs handle the Perth test. ABs often falter in these dead rubber Bledisloe tests.

If his first was magnificent, and his second wasn't then you're probably right.

Haha. He also played 14 tests off the bench for the ABs which I was factoring in to the Brisbane performance.

Didn't read "started"

broughie

@act-crusader Yes noticed that he was playing 2nd five which he is not suited for. Filling a gap for the highlanders. Perhaps the AB environment would sort him out.

The Silver Fern

All Blacks 2021