Hurricanes v Blues
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The jury is out on AJ Lam for me - I'm happy to have him in the squad (for his own benefit I think he probably should have taken the Highlanders offer) but he faded badly at the back end of the Mitre 10 Cup season and the bigger the game was the less impact he had. His brother was similar in that aspect. I know there was an injury issue in the Mitre 10 Cup too but just a feeling that I can't throw.
@kiwimurph I think not having Faiane in at 12 didn't help. With Telea at 12, Lam barely got the ball.
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A settled Hurricanes side looks likely for the season opener, with frontliners Dane Coles and Reed Prinsep unlikely starters as they work their way back from injuries. Out wide, Barrett looks likely to be flanked by Wes Goosen and Julian Savea, the former crowd favourite who was re-signed by the Hurricanes on return from France and was heavily involved in Alexandra. Said Barrett of the man they call The Bus: “Jules is in unbelievable condition, trains well and has so much knowledge for myself and the other young boys in the team. He’s seriously impressive and I’m looking forward to seeing him play well on Saturday. He went well at the weekend and it’s good to have Bus back.”@duluth Having "frontliner" Reed Prinsep as an unlikely starter enormously increases the strength of the home side.
Current odds have both at $1.91 head to head but the Canes @ $2.00 giving the Blues 1.5 points start (with the Blues @ $1.82 taking a 1.5 point start).
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@kiwimurph doesn’t really matter, they all have f all experience. It’s up to our forward pack to ensure they don’t get too rattled at ruck time.
I hope this doesn’t end being our starting team: i’d swap Prinsep for Flanders, Blackwell for Walker-Leawere and Savea for Rayasi.
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I don't think Coles will start. And Prinsep either. Both aren't fully fit and there are other VG starting options.
JGB is inconsistent. At his best he's had some VG games. At his worst he's awful. What they did last year (moving Penenara to 1st) was stupid (although I can see why they did this). The team needs another option in the reserves who can step up and play a different game to JGB. Love is one option. There are others. None are great (Love because hes had nil experience at 1st at NPC or super level). Barrett could move to first but I don't like doing this. But if this is the plan have Love in the reserves to cover FB. And also 1st. So they can move Barrett early if needed but also have another cover at 1st.
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I don't think Coles will start. And Prinsep either. Both aren't fully fit and there are other VG starting options.
JGB is inconsistent. At his best he's had some VG games. At his worst he's awful. What they did last year (moving Penenara to 1st) was stupid (although I can see why they did this). The team needs another option in the reserves who can step up and play a different game to JGB. Love is one option. There are others. None are great (Love because hes had nil experience at 1st at NPC or super level). Barrett could move to first but I don't like doing this. But if this is the plan have Love in the reserves to cover FB. And also 1st. So they can move Barrett early if needed but also have another cover at 1st.
@winger I never wish injury on anyone but I hope Prinsep doesn’t get an easy run back into the starting XV. Flanders is not only a better option but he is the future.
The Hurricanes have a lot of answering to do around the recruitment of their 10s. They’ve had a year and a half now to find suitable replacement options for Beauden and they’ve failed miserably. JGB did okay last year but if we are going to challenge for a final position we need someone better.
Love is not the man yet, he’s 19 and still has plenty of developing to do.
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@winger I never wish injury on anyone but I hope Prinsep doesn’t get an easy run back into the starting XV. Flanders is not only a better option but he is the future.
The Hurricanes have a lot of answering to do around the recruitment of their 10s. They’ve had a year and a half now to find suitable replacement options for Beauden and they’ve failed miserably. JGB did okay last year but if we are going to challenge for a final position we need someone better.
Love is not the man yet, he’s 19 and still has plenty of developing to do.
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@canes4life They have a lot of fun explaining to do in a lot of positions not just 10
@mikey07 yep, very mediocre in the talent spotting department.
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Yep it not looking hell of a good for us Cane's men, but c'est la vie it what it is! Really worried about 9, and I take it Jordie will cover 10 with Hickey gone?
Blues look pretty good, only place you would hope to trouble them is at 9 or 10, but Canes are so weak there anyway. Be interested in how Reiko goes, I see him making a play for 13 in ABs again this year, and a real good Super season may sneak him in. And his brother looks a little fitter and keener from what I saw in preseason, he was actually getting off ground after tackles so he could be in for a good one. -
Yep it not looking hell of a good for us Cane's men, but c'est la vie it what it is! Really worried about 9, and I take it Jordie will cover 10 with Hickey gone?
Blues look pretty good, only place you would hope to trouble them is at 9 or 10, but Canes are so weak there anyway. Be interested in how Reiko goes, I see him making a play for 13 in ABs again this year, and a real good Super season may sneak him in. And his brother looks a little fitter and keener from what I saw in preseason, he was actually getting off ground after tackles so he could be in for a good one.@dan54 yeah best bet would be to utilise someone like Jordie as back up 10 but they will probably bring in someone like Leger if they are consistent with their poor decision making.
I’m looking forward to seeing how Peter Umaga-Jensen kicks on after a stellar season last year. He looks to be a more natural fit than Ioane at international level and I’m confident once he gets his chance he will take it with both hands. Best bet for Ioane is to stick to the wing IMO.
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@dan54 yeah best bet would be to utilise someone like Jordie as back up 10 but they will probably bring in someone like Leger if they are consistent with their poor decision making.
I’m looking forward to seeing how Peter Umaga-Jensen kicks on after a stellar season last year. He looks to be a more natural fit than Ioane at international level and I’m confident once he gets his chance he will take it with both hands. Best bet for Ioane is to stick to the wing IMO.
@canes4life said in Hurricanes v Blues:
@dan54 yeah best bet would be to utilise someone like Jordie as back up 10 but they will probably bring in someone like Leger if they are consistent with their poor decision making.
I’m looking forward to seeing how Peter Umaga-Jensen kicks on after a stellar season last year. He looks to be a more natural fit than Ioane at international level and I’m confident once he gets his chance he will take it with both hands. Best bet for Ioane is to stick to the wing IMO.
With the recent changes to RWC squad size the desire for a 13/wing have gone down. Still a nice to have option but not as critical to squad makeup.
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@canes4life said in Hurricanes v Blues:
@dan54 yeah best bet would be to utilise someone like Jordie as back up 10 but they will probably bring in someone like Leger if they are consistent with their poor decision making.
I’m looking forward to seeing how Peter Umaga-Jensen kicks on after a stellar season last year. He looks to be a more natural fit than Ioane at international level and I’m confident once he gets his chance he will take it with both hands. Best bet for Ioane is to stick to the wing IMO.
With the recent changes to RWC squad size the desire for a 13/wing have gone down. Still a nice to have option but not as critical to squad makeup.
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@crucial Ioane might find himself on the outer if he doesn’t pick a position quick then.
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@canes4life he's picked midfield.
@kiwimurph doesn’t mean he’s a good midfielder. Lacks the smarts and distribution skills IMO. Keep to the flanks son.
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@kiwimurph doesn’t mean he’s a good midfielder. Lacks the smarts and distribution skills IMO. Keep to the flanks son.
@canes4life said in Hurricanes v Blues:
@kiwimurph doesn’t mean he’s a good midfielder.
Sure - but that's a separate point.
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@kiwimurph doesn’t mean he’s a good midfielder. Lacks the smarts and distribution skills IMO. Keep to the flanks son.
@canes4life said in Hurricanes v Blues:
@kiwimurph doesn’t mean he’s a good midfielder. Lacks the smarts and distribution skills IMO. Keep to the flanks son.
Didn't some say this about Tana when he first moved in?
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@canes4life said in Hurricanes v Blues:
@kiwimurph doesn’t mean he’s a good midfielder.
Sure - but that's a separate point.
@kiwimurph I think it’s a silly move when there are about three guys ahead of him in that position. Fair play to the kid if he’s up for the challenge.
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@canes4life said in Hurricanes v Blues:
@kiwimurph doesn’t mean he’s a good midfielder. Lacks the smarts and distribution skills IMO. Keep to the flanks son.
Didn't some say this about Tana when he first moved in?
@winger did they? If my memories correct, Tana’s skill set was next level. His ability to link up with / setup those around him was a big reason they shifted him into the midfield. I fail to see the same skill set in Ioane yet but it’s not like he can’t get there with the right coaching I guess.
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@kiwimurph I think it’s a silly move when there are about three guys ahead of him in that position. Fair play to the kid if he’s up for the challenge.
@canes4life There's players ahead of him in both midfield and wing now.
It's going to be particularly interesting to watch the PUJ-Rieko clash in this game. Last year PUJ certainly had the wood on Rieko in their clashes at both Super level and Mitre 10 Cup level.
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@canes4life There's players ahead of him in both midfield and wing now.
It's going to be particularly interesting to watch the PUJ-Rieko clash in this game. Last year PUJ certainly had the wood on Rieko in their clashes at both Super level and Mitre 10 Cup level.
@kiwimurph said in Hurricanes v Blues:
There's players ahead of him in both midfield and wing now.
That the key. And he wants to focus on centre now. And the AB coaches rated him highly enough to give him first shot last year. As long as the Blues keep him there we will see as the season progresses
