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  • TimT Tim

    @mn5 Yeah, seems to have been dealt with pretty effectively, no need to get rid of the guy. For this reason ...

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    @tim said in Joe Wheeler:

    @mn5 Yeah, seems to have been dealt with pretty effectively, no need to get rid of the guy. For this reason ...

    Nice codicil at the end there because it seems he might be gone.

    Making an inane joke was one thing, not being very funny in any way is another. I suspect that was why he was there - colour? Call it what you want but it wasn't really working.

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      I used to think he was amusing, some of the stuff when he was playing was fine, but then the stuff with Fumi went too far (I'd argue some of that was more offensive than his poor attempt at the accent) and since then I think he just tries too hard.

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        I used to think he was amusing, some of the stuff when he was playing was fine, but then the stuff with Fumi went too far (I'd argue some of that was more offensive than his poor attempt at the accent) and since then I think he just tries too hard.

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        @taniwharugby said in Joe Wheeler:

        then the stuff with Fumi went too far

        Just plain weird.

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        • NepiaN Nepia

          @tim said in Joe Wheeler:

          @mn5 Yeah, seems to have been dealt with pretty effectively, no need to get rid of the guy. For this reason ...

          I don’t think they have got rid of him. When I read it he was just being stood down, there was nothing about him being punted completely (unless they updated the story in the last 24 hours?)

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          @nepia said in Joe Wheeler:

          @tim said in Joe Wheeler:

          @mn5 Yeah, seems to have been dealt with pretty effectively, no need to get rid of the guy. For this reason ...

          I don’t think they have got rid of him. When I read it he was just being stood down, there was nothing about him being punted completely (unless they updated the story in the last 24 hours?)

          Him “just being stood down” is a ridiculous overreaction in itself.

          What’s always absurd in situations like this is people assuming offence of behalf of others. In this case Wheeler teased an individual not a race of people. By all accounts the individual in question didn’t give a flying eff, but that still didn’t stop the Twitter mobs and the race relations grifters from going off about how he’d offended an entire race.

          Again, time and a place and I’d be happy to see this moron off the box, but some perspective please.

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          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

            I used to think he was amusing, some of the stuff when he was playing was fine, but then the stuff with Fumi went too far (I'd argue some of that was more offensive than his poor attempt at the accent) and since then I think he just tries too hard.

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            @taniwharugby said in Joe Wheeler:

            I used to think he was amusing, some of the stuff when he was playing was fine, but then the stuff with Fumi went too far (I'd argue some of that was more offensive than his poor attempt at the accent) and since then I think he just tries too hard.

            Yeah that was some seriously creepy shit.

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              I hoped Wheeler wouldn't lose his job (or stood down or whatever it was they did to him), but there we go.

              I wonder how many years off we are until something like Wheeler did attracts criminal proceedings?

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              • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                @taniwharugby said in Joe Wheeler:

                I used to think he was amusing, some of the stuff when he was playing was fine, but then the stuff with Fumi went too far (I'd argue some of that was more offensive than his poor attempt at the accent) and since then I think he just tries too hard.

                Yeah that was some seriously creepy shit.

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                @rancid-schnitzel said in Joe Wheeler:

                @taniwharugby said in Joe Wheeler:

                I used to think he was amusing, some of the stuff when he was playing was fine, but then the stuff with Fumi went too far (I'd argue some of that was more offensive than his poor attempt at the accent) and since then I think he just tries too hard.

                Yeah that was some seriously creepy shit.

                Was he in a pair of nappies or something ?

                Again, creepy and fucked up but I’d imagine the Japanese halfback didn’t have a gun pointed at his head to partake in the “comedy”

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  I used to think he was amusing, some of the stuff when he was playing was fine, but then the stuff with Fumi went too far (I'd argue some of that was more offensive than his poor attempt at the accent) and since then I think he just tries too hard.

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                  @taniwharugby said in Joe Wheeler:

                  I used to think he was amusing, some of the stuff when he was playing was fine, but then the stuff with Fumi went too far (I'd argue some of that was more offensive than his poor attempt at the accent) and since then I think he just tries too hard.

                  It's a tough gig trying to be the rugby funny man.

                  It's a tough gig trying to be a funny man full-stop and there's not many who have really broad appeal.

                  I suspect Wheeler's target audience is a fair bit younger than the average ferner.

                  But, thinking back, Glen Osborne is probably the only guy who has made a genuine success of the role.

                  I remember Stu Wilson was regarded as the hardest of cases in the AB environment, but he died miserably on national TV.

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                  • Chris B.C Chris B.

                    @taniwharugby said in Joe Wheeler:

                    I used to think he was amusing, some of the stuff when he was playing was fine, but then the stuff with Fumi went too far (I'd argue some of that was more offensive than his poor attempt at the accent) and since then I think he just tries too hard.

                    It's a tough gig trying to be the rugby funny man.

                    It's a tough gig trying to be a funny man full-stop and there's not many who have really broad appeal.

                    I suspect Wheeler's target audience is a fair bit younger than the average ferner.

                    But, thinking back, Glen Osborne is probably the only guy who has made a genuine success of the role.

                    I remember Stu Wilson was regarded as the hardest of cases in the AB environment, but he died miserably on national TV.

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                    @chris-b said in Joe Wheeler:

                    @taniwharugby said in Joe Wheeler:

                    I used to think he was amusing, some of the stuff when he was playing was fine, but then the stuff with Fumi went too far (I'd argue some of that was more offensive than his poor attempt at the accent) and since then I think he just tries too hard.

                    It's a tough gig trying to be the rugby funny man.

                    It's a tough gig trying to be a funny man full-stop and there's not many who have really broad appeal.

                    I suspect Wheeler's target audience is a fair bit younger than the average ferner.

                    But, thinking back, Glen Osborne is probably the only guy who has made a genuine success of the role.

                    I remember Stu Wilson was regarded as the hardest of cases in the AB environment, but he died miserably on national TV.

                    Marc Ellis ( genuinely funny guy ) and Matthew Ridge ( absolute cock ) were a good pairing for awhile.

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                    • MN5M MN5

                      @chris-b said in Joe Wheeler:

                      @taniwharugby said in Joe Wheeler:

                      I used to think he was amusing, some of the stuff when he was playing was fine, but then the stuff with Fumi went too far (I'd argue some of that was more offensive than his poor attempt at the accent) and since then I think he just tries too hard.

                      It's a tough gig trying to be the rugby funny man.

                      It's a tough gig trying to be a funny man full-stop and there's not many who have really broad appeal.

                      I suspect Wheeler's target audience is a fair bit younger than the average ferner.

                      But, thinking back, Glen Osborne is probably the only guy who has made a genuine success of the role.

                      I remember Stu Wilson was regarded as the hardest of cases in the AB environment, but he died miserably on national TV.

                      Marc Ellis ( genuinely funny guy ) and Matthew Ridge ( absolute cock ) were a good pairing for awhile.

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                      @mn5 True!

                      Ellis was very funny in his day.

                      There was a Southland guy, Jeremy someone (Winter?) who tried to market himself as "The Chosen One" who was another who fell flat as a turd.

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                      • MN5M MN5

                        @rancid-schnitzel said in Joe Wheeler:

                        @taniwharugby said in Joe Wheeler:

                        I used to think he was amusing, some of the stuff when he was playing was fine, but then the stuff with Fumi went too far (I'd argue some of that was more offensive than his poor attempt at the accent) and since then I think he just tries too hard.

                        Yeah that was some seriously creepy shit.

                        Was he in a pair of nappies or something ?

                        Again, creepy and fucked up but I’d imagine the Japanese halfback didn’t have a gun pointed at his head to partake in the “comedy”

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                        @mn5 said in Joe Wheeler:

                        @rancid-schnitzel said in Joe Wheeler:

                        @taniwharugby said in Joe Wheeler:

                        I used to think he was amusing, some of the stuff when he was playing was fine, but then the stuff with Fumi went too far (I'd argue some of that was more offensive than his poor attempt at the accent) and since then I think he just tries too hard.

                        Yeah that was some seriously creepy shit.

                        Was he in a pair of nappies or something ?

                        Again, creepy and fucked up but I’d imagine the Japanese halfback didn’t have a gun pointed at his head to partake in the “comedy”

                        No, I think you should assume, based exclusively on his skin colour, that he had no agency or ability to think independently. Lucky he has so many people to remind him of that on his behalf. Pretty sure there’s a word for that.

                        Another thing that’s funny, is people claiming to speak on behalf of society when they themselves usually only represent the views of a tiny fraction of society.

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                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                          @mn5 True!

                          Ellis was very funny in his day.

                          There was a Southland guy, Jeremy someone (Winter?) who tried to market himself as "The Chosen One" who was another who fell flat as a turd.

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                          @chris-b said in Joe Wheeler:

                          @mn5 True!

                          Ellis was very funny in his day.

                          There was a Southland guy, Jeremy someone (Winter?) who tried to market himself as "The Chosen One" who was another who fell flat as a turd.

                          Winders. His shtick was the Southland accent and singing about Y-fronts.

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                          • MN5M MN5

                            @rancid-schnitzel said in Joe Wheeler:

                            @taniwharugby said in Joe Wheeler:

                            I used to think he was amusing, some of the stuff when he was playing was fine, but then the stuff with Fumi went too far (I'd argue some of that was more offensive than his poor attempt at the accent) and since then I think he just tries too hard.

                            Yeah that was some seriously creepy shit.

                            Was he in a pair of nappies or something ?

                            Again, creepy and fucked up but I’d imagine the Japanese halfback didn’t have a gun pointed at his head to partake in the “comedy”

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                            @mn5 yeah was a bit where he was like Wheelers 'pet' plus there was a song Wheeler did when Fumi left the HIghlanders, bit of a man crush type song (was actually in an article on Stuff on weekend if you were wanting to hear it)

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                            • Chris B.C Chris B.

                              @taniwharugby said in Joe Wheeler:

                              I used to think he was amusing, some of the stuff when he was playing was fine, but then the stuff with Fumi went too far (I'd argue some of that was more offensive than his poor attempt at the accent) and since then I think he just tries too hard.

                              It's a tough gig trying to be the rugby funny man.

                              It's a tough gig trying to be a funny man full-stop and there's not many who have really broad appeal.

                              I suspect Wheeler's target audience is a fair bit younger than the average ferner.

                              But, thinking back, Glen Osborne is probably the only guy who has made a genuine success of the role.

                              I remember Stu Wilson was regarded as the hardest of cases in the AB environment, but he died miserably on national TV.

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                              @chris-b the nut.

                              Just awful.

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                @chris-b said in Joe Wheeler:

                                @mn5 True!

                                Ellis was very funny in his day.

                                There was a Southland guy, Jeremy someone (Winter?) who tried to market himself as "The Chosen One" who was another who fell flat as a turd.

                                Winders. His shtick was the Southland accent and singing about Y-fronts.

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                                @bovidae Yeah - that's the guy.

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                                • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                  @chris-b the nut.

                                  Just awful.

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                                  @majorrage said in Joe Wheeler:

                                  @chris-b the nut.

                                  Just awful.

                                  Who me? 🙂

                                  Certainly, not many appreciated my Ta$man schtick. 🙂 I think @Snowy was one who realized it was a pisstake!

                                  More seriously, who was the nut? Winders?

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                                  • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                    @majorrage said in Joe Wheeler:

                                    @chris-b the nut.

                                    Just awful.

                                    Who me? 🙂

                                    Certainly, not many appreciated my Ta$man schtick. 🙂 I think @Snowy was one who realized it was a pisstake!

                                    More seriously, who was the nut? Winders?

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                                    @chris-b said in Joe Wheeler:

                                    @majorrage said in Joe Wheeler:

                                    @chris-b the nut.

                                    Just awful.

                                    Who me? 🙂

                                    Certainly, not many appreciated my Ta$man schtick. 🙂 I think @Snowy was one who realized it was a pisstake!

                                    More seriously, who was the nut? Winders?

                                    It’s what Stu Wilson referred to the ball as.

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                                    • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                      @chris-b said in Joe Wheeler:

                                      @majorrage said in Joe Wheeler:

                                      @chris-b the nut.

                                      Just awful.

                                      Who me? 🙂

                                      Certainly, not many appreciated my Ta$man schtick. 🙂 I think @Snowy was one who realized it was a pisstake!

                                      More seriously, who was the nut? Winders?

                                      It’s what Stu Wilson referred to the ball as.

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                                      @majorrage Ah! Of course he did!

                                      Poor old Stu. He probably was funny in a small group - but, it just didn't translate.

                                      He probably was a decent bloke. Read this recently.

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/124391266/former-all-black-captain-stu-wilson-trains-as-orderly-at-tauranga-hospital

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                                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                        @majorrage Ah! Of course he did!

                                        Poor old Stu. He probably was funny in a small group - but, it just didn't translate.

                                        He probably was a decent bloke. Read this recently.

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/124391266/former-all-black-captain-stu-wilson-trains-as-orderly-at-tauranga-hospital

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                                        @chris-b I went to a dinner when Stu Wilson spoke, he was excellent, including humour (even if I didnt find him funny on TV)

                                        Probably much easier to tailor your humour to a specific group (at a dinner event) than 10s of thousands of viewers/listeners

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                                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                          @chris-b I went to a dinner when Stu Wilson spoke, he was excellent, including humour (even if I didnt find him funny on TV)

                                          Probably much easier to tailor your humour to a specific group (at a dinner event) than 10s of thousands of viewers/listeners

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                                          @taniwharugby Eric Rush is an absolute genius in front of an Australian rugby-loving crowd. I've seen him twice, totally different material, audience in stiches both times.

                                          Did he ever make it onto TV back home?

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