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    The Left Wing: James Lowe on life at Leinster, Super Rugby experience and unique route to the top

    Great and very long interview with James Lowe.

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      Sevu Reece may, or may not, go to Connacht.

      https://www.radiosport.co.nz/sport-news/rugby/waikato-rugby-star-sevuloni-reece-loses-irish-club-contract-over-domestic-violence-incident/

      Here's the link to the original article in the Irish Examiner (I'm not sure the author of the Radio Sport article has actually read it very well): https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/rugby/connacht-signings-move-in-doubt-after-new-zealand-court-appearance-over-domestic-abuse-incident-872791.html

      The Examiner in turn refers to this article in the NZH:
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12134952

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      @stargazer said in NH club rugby:

      Sevu Reece may, or may not, go to Connacht.

      https://www.radiosport.co.nz/sport-news/rugby/waikato-rugby-star-sevuloni-reece-loses-irish-club-contract-over-domestic-violence-incident/

      Here's the link to the original article in the Irish Examiner (I'm not sure the author of the Radio Sport article has actually read it very well): https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/rugby/connacht-signings-move-in-doubt-after-new-zealand-court-appearance-over-domestic-abuse-incident-872791.html

      The Examiner in turn refers to this article in the NZH:
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12134952

      Theres a B and B in Bali thats hiring at the moment.

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      • StargazerS Stargazer

        Sevu Reece may, or may not, go to Connacht.

        https://www.radiosport.co.nz/sport-news/rugby/waikato-rugby-star-sevuloni-reece-loses-irish-club-contract-over-domestic-violence-incident/

        Here's the link to the original article in the Irish Examiner (I'm not sure the author of the Radio Sport article has actually read it very well): https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/rugby/connacht-signings-move-in-doubt-after-new-zealand-court-appearance-over-domestic-abuse-incident-872791.html

        The Examiner in turn refers to this article in the NZH:
        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12134952

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        @stargazer Confirmed from Connacht/IRFU Reece contract has been torn up.

        https://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2018/1004/1000890-connacht-cancel-move-for-sevu-reece/

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        • T trooa

          @stargazer Confirmed from Connacht/IRFU Reece contract has been torn up.

          https://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2018/1004/1000890-connacht-cancel-move-for-sevu-reece/

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          @trooa

          Good on them.

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            @trooa

            Good on them.

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            Derm McCrum
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            @gt12 said in NH club rugby:

            @trooa

            Good on them.

            Yep agreed.

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            • jeggaJ jegga

              @stargazer said in NH club rugby:

              Sevu Reece may, or may not, go to Connacht.

              https://www.radiosport.co.nz/sport-news/rugby/waikato-rugby-star-sevuloni-reece-loses-irish-club-contract-over-domestic-violence-incident/

              Here's the link to the original article in the Irish Examiner (I'm not sure the author of the Radio Sport article has actually read it very well): https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/rugby/connacht-signings-move-in-doubt-after-new-zealand-court-appearance-over-domestic-abuse-incident-872791.html

              The Examiner in turn refers to this article in the NZH:
              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12134952

              Theres a B and B in Bali thats hiring at the moment.

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              #1198

              @jegga said in NH club rugby:

              Theres a B and B in Bali thats hiring at the moment.

              He could clean the stairs up after any 'mishaps'

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              • CrucialC Crucial

                @jegga said in NH club rugby:

                Theres a B and B in Bali thats hiring at the moment.

                He could clean the stairs up after any 'mishaps'

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                @crucial said in NH club rugby:

                @jegga said in NH club rugby:

                Theres a B and B in Bali thats hiring at the moment.

                He could clean the stairs up after any 'mishaps'

                And do the hospital run first thing in the morning to make sure Veitchy isn’t late for work .
                Probably not a good idea to get “ on the large “ together though ,

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                  Connor Murray's secretive neck injury getting more press. Rumours he's off to join mates in France after the RWC.

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                    If you fancy a bit of the 'not Heineken cup sponsored by Heineken', free to air initially

                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12139993

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                      If you fancy a bit of the 'not Heineken cup sponsored by Heineken', free to air initially

                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12139993

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                      @machpants said in NH club rugby:

                      If you fancy a bit of the 'not Heineken cup sponsored by Heineken', free to air initially

                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12139993

                      Is that 8 of the blandest uniforms you've ever seen lined up side by side? I think I recognise Munster, that's 1 out of 8.

                      Amazing brand recognition.

                      There even 2 teams in all grey FFS.

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                        Bland uniforms leave more space for adverts

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                          If you fancy a bit of the 'not Heineken cup sponsored by Heineken', free to air initially

                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12139993

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                          @machpants Maybe I misunderstand what you're saying, but Heineken is the official Champions Cup Title Partner.

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                            Ah last year Heineken sponsored the cup but didn't pay for naming rights, I see they've paid up for naming this year - or ERC have dropped the price. My mistake

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                              The TVNZ tv guide doesn't name the exact matches (yet), but it looks like Leinster v Wasps will be the first Champions Cup game to be broadcast by Duke live (Sat 13/10, 7.40am NZT). There's a replay at 2.00pm.

                              The second live game (Sun 14/10, 5.25.am NZT) seems to be either Scarlets v Racing92 or Ulster v Leicester Tigers.

                              There is a replacy scheduled for Monday 15/10, 12.10pm

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                                Interesting article recently on the rugby paper about sponsorships deals up in Europe. A lot of them have been bungled including the Heineken Cup > Not the Heineken Cup > the Not the Heineken Cup sponsored by Heineken > The Heineken Cup (again).

                                https://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/latest-news/31192/six-nations-cash-will-drop-to-just-6m-as-rugbys-sponsorship-market-shows-signs-of-decline/

                                Six NATIONS:

                                The Six Nations are resigned to taking another hefty hit this season over the depreciating value of their title sponsorship.

                                Last year the Unions running the tournament rejected an offer of £14m-a-year from RBS after Scotland and Wales objected, claiming the event was worth more. Within months the value had shrivelled by a third to £9m. Now it has fallen again, by as much as a third.

                                Tournament organisers are ready to accept £6m for this year’s 15 matches.

                                Only 18 months ago they believed their title sponsorship was worth £100m over six years, the equivalent of £16.6m a year.

                                Despite talking to more than 100 multi-national companies none was prepared to come anywhere near the RBS £14m. It triggered a chain of events which ended with the resignation of the man who had helped build the tournament into a roaring commercial success, chief executive John Feehan.

                                heineken cup:

                                The Six Nations are far from alone in feeling the chill wind of a volatile market. The Champions’ Cup has also suffered from a spectacular devaluation in title sponsorship.

                                When the clubs wrenched control of the Heineken Cup from the national Unions in 2014, the Dutch beer company was paying £10m-a-year.

                                The English and French clubs, backed by the four Welsh regions, believed their competition had been under-sold. They wanted six elite sponsors paying £3m each but failed to raise anywhere near the projected £18m.

                                Heineken stayed in at £3m as one of the few. Now that the organisers, EPCR, have changed their policy, Heineken have been restored as sole sponsors but at £5.5m a year almost half the price they had been paying four years ago.

                                PREMIERSHIP:

                                The English domestic game has also suffered. Aviva extended their sponsorship of the Premiership last year at a reduced rate before being succeeded by another insurance company, Gallagher.

                                rest of the article ......

                                Paul Vaughan, chief executive of Rugby World Cup 2015 and now senior consultant of global sports media company, ISG Live, has unrivalled experience of the rugby market.

                                He is not surprised at the decline. “This has nothing to do with Brexit,’’ he said. “The world has changed. The market has changed in a big way accordingly and it probably affects rugby more than any other sports.

                                “The objectives of sponsors are not necessarily about brand-awareness and exposure as they used to be. Most brands want more connectivity with their consumers.

                                “The Champions’ Cup was doing very well with its title sponsor when it decided to go down the Champions’ League football route of six-to-eight elite sponsors.

                                “The football competition delivers massive media coverage on a pan-European scale with advertising guarantees around it. It is very difficult to sell a (rugby) competition which has a limited geography.’’

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                                • RapidoR Rapido

                                  Interesting article recently on the rugby paper about sponsorships deals up in Europe. A lot of them have been bungled including the Heineken Cup > Not the Heineken Cup > the Not the Heineken Cup sponsored by Heineken > The Heineken Cup (again).

                                  https://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/latest-news/31192/six-nations-cash-will-drop-to-just-6m-as-rugbys-sponsorship-market-shows-signs-of-decline/

                                  Six NATIONS:

                                  The Six Nations are resigned to taking another hefty hit this season over the depreciating value of their title sponsorship.

                                  Last year the Unions running the tournament rejected an offer of £14m-a-year from RBS after Scotland and Wales objected, claiming the event was worth more. Within months the value had shrivelled by a third to £9m. Now it has fallen again, by as much as a third.

                                  Tournament organisers are ready to accept £6m for this year’s 15 matches.

                                  Only 18 months ago they believed their title sponsorship was worth £100m over six years, the equivalent of £16.6m a year.

                                  Despite talking to more than 100 multi-national companies none was prepared to come anywhere near the RBS £14m. It triggered a chain of events which ended with the resignation of the man who had helped build the tournament into a roaring commercial success, chief executive John Feehan.

                                  heineken cup:

                                  The Six Nations are far from alone in feeling the chill wind of a volatile market. The Champions’ Cup has also suffered from a spectacular devaluation in title sponsorship.

                                  When the clubs wrenched control of the Heineken Cup from the national Unions in 2014, the Dutch beer company was paying £10m-a-year.

                                  The English and French clubs, backed by the four Welsh regions, believed their competition had been under-sold. They wanted six elite sponsors paying £3m each but failed to raise anywhere near the projected £18m.

                                  Heineken stayed in at £3m as one of the few. Now that the organisers, EPCR, have changed their policy, Heineken have been restored as sole sponsors but at £5.5m a year almost half the price they had been paying four years ago.

                                  PREMIERSHIP:

                                  The English domestic game has also suffered. Aviva extended their sponsorship of the Premiership last year at a reduced rate before being succeeded by another insurance company, Gallagher.

                                  rest of the article ......

                                  Paul Vaughan, chief executive of Rugby World Cup 2015 and now senior consultant of global sports media company, ISG Live, has unrivalled experience of the rugby market.

                                  He is not surprised at the decline. “This has nothing to do with Brexit,’’ he said. “The world has changed. The market has changed in a big way accordingly and it probably affects rugby more than any other sports.

                                  “The objectives of sponsors are not necessarily about brand-awareness and exposure as they used to be. Most brands want more connectivity with their consumers.

                                  “The Champions’ Cup was doing very well with its title sponsor when it decided to go down the Champions’ League football route of six-to-eight elite sponsors.

                                  “The football competition delivers massive media coverage on a pan-European scale with advertising guarantees around it. It is very difficult to sell a (rugby) competition which has a limited geography.’’

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                                  @rapido Sounds like a number of people with good commercial acumen strike again!

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                                  • RapidoR Rapido

                                    Interesting article recently on the rugby paper about sponsorships deals up in Europe. A lot of them have been bungled including the Heineken Cup > Not the Heineken Cup > the Not the Heineken Cup sponsored by Heineken > The Heineken Cup (again).

                                    https://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/latest-news/31192/six-nations-cash-will-drop-to-just-6m-as-rugbys-sponsorship-market-shows-signs-of-decline/

                                    Six NATIONS:

                                    The Six Nations are resigned to taking another hefty hit this season over the depreciating value of their title sponsorship.

                                    Last year the Unions running the tournament rejected an offer of £14m-a-year from RBS after Scotland and Wales objected, claiming the event was worth more. Within months the value had shrivelled by a third to £9m. Now it has fallen again, by as much as a third.

                                    Tournament organisers are ready to accept £6m for this year’s 15 matches.

                                    Only 18 months ago they believed their title sponsorship was worth £100m over six years, the equivalent of £16.6m a year.

                                    Despite talking to more than 100 multi-national companies none was prepared to come anywhere near the RBS £14m. It triggered a chain of events which ended with the resignation of the man who had helped build the tournament into a roaring commercial success, chief executive John Feehan.

                                    heineken cup:

                                    The Six Nations are far from alone in feeling the chill wind of a volatile market. The Champions’ Cup has also suffered from a spectacular devaluation in title sponsorship.

                                    When the clubs wrenched control of the Heineken Cup from the national Unions in 2014, the Dutch beer company was paying £10m-a-year.

                                    The English and French clubs, backed by the four Welsh regions, believed their competition had been under-sold. They wanted six elite sponsors paying £3m each but failed to raise anywhere near the projected £18m.

                                    Heineken stayed in at £3m as one of the few. Now that the organisers, EPCR, have changed their policy, Heineken have been restored as sole sponsors but at £5.5m a year almost half the price they had been paying four years ago.

                                    PREMIERSHIP:

                                    The English domestic game has also suffered. Aviva extended their sponsorship of the Premiership last year at a reduced rate before being succeeded by another insurance company, Gallagher.

                                    rest of the article ......

                                    Paul Vaughan, chief executive of Rugby World Cup 2015 and now senior consultant of global sports media company, ISG Live, has unrivalled experience of the rugby market.

                                    He is not surprised at the decline. “This has nothing to do with Brexit,’’ he said. “The world has changed. The market has changed in a big way accordingly and it probably affects rugby more than any other sports.

                                    “The objectives of sponsors are not necessarily about brand-awareness and exposure as they used to be. Most brands want more connectivity with their consumers.

                                    “The Champions’ Cup was doing very well with its title sponsor when it decided to go down the Champions’ League football route of six-to-eight elite sponsors.

                                    “The football competition delivers massive media coverage on a pan-European scale with advertising guarantees around it. It is very difficult to sell a (rugby) competition which has a limited geography.’’

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                                    @rapido So some were greedy, overestimated rugby's worth, but apart from that, it's all football's fault!

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                                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                                      @rapido Sounds like a number of people with good commercial acumen strike again!

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                                      @antipodean said in NH club rugby:

                                      @rapido Sounds like a number of people with good commercial acumen strike again!

                                      The Fonterra of Rugby!

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                                        Hopefully none of this 'talent' is making its way through the ranks to eventually end up on the IRB boards.

                                        IRB/WR still manage to get good sponsorship for RWC.

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                                          Hopefully none of this 'talent' is making its way through the ranks to eventually end up on the IRB boards.

                                          IRB/WR still manage to get good sponsorship for RWC.

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                                          @rapido said in NH club rugby:

                                          Hopefully none of this 'talent' is making its way through the ranks to eventually end up on the IRB boards.

                                          IRB/WR still manage to get good sponsorship for RWC.

                                          John Feehan - who used to manage Six Nations and 4 Lions Tours, and Derek McGrath who used to run the ECR before the Eng/Fra/Wal takeover and moving it from Dublin to Neufchatel in Switzerland, must be sitting there with "Not so easy after all, is it lads?" expressions.

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