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    Machpants
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    Leinster, after losing both the URC and Heineken Cup despite being favourites, have realised they need the Messiah, the Saviour Himself

    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/leinster-confirm-signing-of-former-all-black-charlie-ngatai/

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      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/breaking-the-2020-21-premiership-salary-cap-report-by-numbers/

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        A box kick a thon final between Leicester and Saracens in seemingly perfect rugby conditions.

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        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

          A box kick a thon final between Leicester and Saracens in seemingly perfect rugby conditions.

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          @KiwiMurph said in NH club rugby:

          A box kick a thon final between Leicester and Saracens in seemingly perfect rugby conditions.

          Was tense but not absorbing. Sadly.

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            A box kick a thon final between Leicester and Saracens in seemingly perfect rugby conditions.

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            @KiwiMurph said in NH club rugby:

            A box kick a thon final between Leicester and Saracens in seemingly perfect rugby conditions.

            Two best defensive teams. They already comprehensively beat the teams with attacking nous in the semis. But at least Saracens lost

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              NH club recap (two notable Finals still to be played):

              Top League One champions 2022:
              Saitama Wild Knights
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              Premiership champions 2022:
              Leicester Tigers
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              United Rugby Championship winners 2022:
              Stormers
              alt text


              Pro D2 champions 2022:
              Aviron Bayonnais
              alt text


              European Champions Cup winners 2022:
              La Rochelle
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              European Challenge Cup winners 2022:
              Lyon
              alt text


              Top 14 Final to be played on Sat 25 June 2022 (6.45am NZT) between Castres Olympique and the winner of Montpellier v Bordeaux.

              Major League Rugby Final to be played on Sun 26 June 2022 (4.00am NZT). Finalists to be decided this weekend.

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              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                A box kick a thon final between Leicester and Saracens in seemingly perfect rugby conditions.

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                @KiwiMurph said in NH club rugby:

                A box kick a thon final between Leicester and Saracens in seemingly perfect rugby conditions.

                Wayne Barnes back to his best. First minute:
                "Knock on, advantage. Advantage Over" Blows whistle. "Forward pass, we're going back to the knock on".

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                • antipodeanA antipodean

                  @KiwiMurph said in NH club rugby:

                  A box kick a thon final between Leicester and Saracens in seemingly perfect rugby conditions.

                  Wayne Barnes back to his best. First minute:
                  "Knock on, advantage. Advantage Over" Blows whistle. "Forward pass, we're going back to the knock on".

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                  @antipodean said in NH club rugby:

                  @KiwiMurph said in NH club rugby:

                  A box kick a thon final between Leicester and Saracens in seemingly perfect rugby conditions.

                  Wayne Barnes back to his best. First minute:
                  "Knock on, advantage. Advantage Over" Blows whistle. "Forward pass, we're going back to the knock on".

                  Wayne Barnes, surely not?

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    NH club recap (two notable Finals still to be played):

                    Top League One champions 2022:
                    Saitama Wild Knights
                    alt text


                    Premiership champions 2022:
                    Leicester Tigers
                    alt text


                    United Rugby Championship winners 2022:
                    Stormers
                    alt text


                    Pro D2 champions 2022:
                    Aviron Bayonnais
                    alt text


                    European Champions Cup winners 2022:
                    La Rochelle
                    alt text


                    European Challenge Cup winners 2022:
                    Lyon
                    alt text


                    Top 14 Final to be played on Sat 25 June 2022 (6.45am NZT) between Castres Olympique and the winner of Montpellier v Bordeaux.

                    Major League Rugby Final to be played on Sun 26 June 2022 (4.00am NZT). Finalists to be decided this weekend.

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                    OomPB
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                    #2565

                    @Stargazer pretty happy Stormers supporter. Credit to our coach he have been through the worst of politics and still keep coming up trumps

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                      NH club 2021/2022 recap - part 2:

                      Top 14 champions 2022:
                      Montpellier

                      alt text


                      Major League Rugby champions 2022:

                      Rugby New York
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                        Daffy Jaffy
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                        #2567

                        final pre-season game

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                          Victor Meldrew
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                          Wasps seem to be in deep do-do. My old company accountant played centre for them decades ago and always thought the business model was decidedly flaky.

                          https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2022/09/21/wasps-enter-administration-face-automatic-relegation/

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                            Wasps seem to be in deep do-do. My old company accountant played centre for them decades ago and always thought the business model was decidedly flaky.

                            https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2022/09/21/wasps-enter-administration-face-automatic-relegation/

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                            @Victor-Meldrew

                            https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/sep/21/worcester-ordered-to-fix-crisis-or-be-suspended-from-the-premiership

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                              @Victor-Meldrew

                              https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/sep/21/worcester-ordered-to-fix-crisis-or-be-suspended-from-the-premiership

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                              @Bones

                              I don't follow UK club rugby in any great depth, but wonder if I'm hearing the sound of financial chickens coming home to roost.

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                              • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                Wasps seem to be in deep do-do. My old company accountant played centre for them decades ago and always thought the business model was decidedly flaky.

                                https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2022/09/21/wasps-enter-administration-face-automatic-relegation/

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                                @Victor-Meldrew

                                So Wasps and Worcester looking very, very shaky. Seems like the typical Premiership business model of having a sugar daddy funding a loss making club isn't that sound. Who'd have thought?

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                                  @Victor-Meldrew

                                  So Wasps and Worcester looking very, very shaky. Seems like the typical Premiership business model of having a sugar daddy funding a loss making club isn't that sound. Who'd have thought?

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                                  @Catogrande said in NH club rugby:

                                  @Victor-Meldrew

                                  So Wasps and Worcester looking very, very shaky. Seems like the typical Premiership business model of having a sugar daddy funding a loss making club isn't that sound. Who'd have thought?

                                  Interested in your thoughts on how this leaves English rugby. Will this impact the RFU/Big Clubs power balance? Good thing or bad thing long-term?

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                                    MiketheSnow
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                                    Been the elephant in the room since the start of professionalism

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                                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                      @Catogrande said in NH club rugby:

                                      @Victor-Meldrew

                                      So Wasps and Worcester looking very, very shaky. Seems like the typical Premiership business model of having a sugar daddy funding a loss making club isn't that sound. Who'd have thought?

                                      Interested in your thoughts on how this leaves English rugby. Will this impact the RFU/Big Clubs power balance? Good thing or bad thing long-term?

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                                      @Victor-Meldrew

                                      I wish I knew mate. The current situation is clearly unsustainable but what is the alternative? Exeter are the only Premiership club that regularly turns a profit and then only just. They have a very good conferencing set of facilities to assist in the finances but by the cringe it is a fucking expensive day out on match day. A good seat in the West Stand is up to £90! Add in the most expensive beer and pasties and it all mounts up to a painful experience.

                                      It seems to me that there is not enough money in the domestic game to sustain the standards that fans have come to expect. Of course we have the cash cow that is the National side but that is not enough to spread around. More tv money might help I guess. One thing is for sure, we’re going to run out of sugar daddies sometime.

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                                      • CatograndeC Catogrande

                                        @Victor-Meldrew

                                        So Wasps and Worcester looking very, very shaky. Seems like the typical Premiership business model of having a sugar daddy funding a loss making club isn't that sound. Who'd have thought?

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                                        @Catogrande said in NH club rugby:

                                        @Victor-Meldrew

                                        So Wasps and Worcester looking very, very shaky. Seems like the typical Premiership business model of having a sugar daddy funding a loss making club isn't that sound. Who'd have thought?

                                        It's the same through Europe isn't it? The football model without the massive marketing/TV/merch opportunities.

                                        Our more commie model isn't perfect but it seems a bit more sustainable in that matching spending to income is the driver and more controlled.

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                                        • CrucialC Crucial

                                          @Catogrande said in NH club rugby:

                                          @Victor-Meldrew

                                          So Wasps and Worcester looking very, very shaky. Seems like the typical Premiership business model of having a sugar daddy funding a loss making club isn't that sound. Who'd have thought?

                                          It's the same through Europe isn't it? The football model without the massive marketing/TV/merch opportunities.

                                          Our more commie model isn't perfect but it seems a bit more sustainable in that matching spending to income is the driver and more controlled.

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                                          @Crucial

                                          France looks pretty much the same to me, though can’t say much about Italy.

                                          The NZ model definitely seems much more sustainable but that’s dependent I guess on how long the money train runs up here.

                                          I’m pretty conflicted as I’m pleased with our more sustained competitiveness internationally, if not always our style of play. On the other hand there is the degree of attrition on the players and the money related mess.

                                          I wish I knew how it will pan out.

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