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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    Not a single South African team has made it to the Heineken Cup and European Challenge Cup semi-finals.

    Heineken Cup QF results:

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    It's the first time that Glasgow has reached the Challenge Cup semi-final.

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    @Stargazer It is noted that all the Saffa teams played away from home which makes it a bit more difficult given teams up that way seem to have good records when playing at home despite where they are positioned on the overall table, this is especially so in France where bottom of the table teams regularly tip up the table toppers at home. Presumably the cumulative travel component also affects the Saffas. It's a damn long way from Johannesburg to Edinburgh etc, especially when you have to do it every second week. Still that is the way they wanted it so they have to like it or lump it.

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    • StargazerS Stargazer

      Not a single South African team has made it to the Heineken Cup and European Challenge Cup semi-finals.

      Heineken Cup QF results:

      0e63d12c-0444-4c50-9c36-75347cdd501c-image.png

      alt text


      It's the first time that Glasgow has reached the Challenge Cup semi-final.

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      @Stargazer and an Italian team in the semis for the first time

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      • HigginsH Higgins

        @Stargazer It is noted that all the Saffa teams played away from home which makes it a bit more difficult given teams up that way seem to have good records when playing at home despite where they are positioned on the overall table, this is especially so in France where bottom of the table teams regularly tip up the table toppers at home. Presumably the cumulative travel component also affects the Saffas. It's a damn long way from Johannesburg to Edinburgh etc, especially when you have to do it every second week. Still that is the way they wanted it so they have to like it or lump it.

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        @Higgins said in NH club rugby:

        Still that is the way they wanted it so they have to like it or lump it

        No they got kicked out of SR so they didn't have much choice

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        • M Machpants

          @Higgins said in NH club rugby:

          Still that is the way they wanted it so they have to like it or lump it

          No they got kicked out of SR so they didn't have much choice

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          @Machpants That's not entirely true. They expressed the wish to join the NH competition and leave SR well before Covid. SANZAAR just helped them to achieve it sooner.

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          • StargazerS Stargazer

            @Machpants That's not entirely true. They expressed the wish to join the NH competition and leave SR well before Covid. SANZAAR just helped them to achieve it sooner.

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            @Stargazer said in NH club rugby:

            @Machpants That's not entirely true. They expressed the wish to join the NH competition and leave SR well before Covid. SANZAAR just helped them to achieve it sooner.

            They were using it as a bargaining point, whether they wanted it was moot. NZR ham fisted announcement meant they had no choice

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              Not a single South African team has made it to the Heineken Cup and European Challenge Cup semi-finals.

              Heineken Cup QF results:

              0e63d12c-0444-4c50-9c36-75347cdd501c-image.png

              alt text


              It's the first time that Glasgow has reached the Challenge Cup semi-final.

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              MiketheSnow
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              @Stargazer said in NH club rugby:

              Not a single South African team has made it to the Heineken Cup and European Challenge Cup semi-finals.

              Heineken Cup QF results:

              0e63d12c-0444-4c50-9c36-75347cdd501c-image.png

              alt text


              It's the first time that Glasgow has reached the Challenge Cup semi-final.

              Unlike the NZ Super teams not all of SA’s best players play for their provincial teams

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                Not a single South African team has made it to the Heineken Cup and European Challenge Cup semi-finals.

                Heineken Cup QF results:

                0e63d12c-0444-4c50-9c36-75347cdd501c-image.png

                alt text


                It's the first time that Glasgow has reached the Challenge Cup semi-final.

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                @Stargazer

                Re the Saffers not making it through, as @Higgins has mentioned, travel has been a factor, particularly regarding this last round. It’s not just the distance but also the uncertainty. For instance the Stormers didn’t know who they would be playing on the following Saturday until late on the Sunday. They couldn’t get one suitable flight for the Exeter trip, so the squad got split into three separate flights and didn’t get together in Exeter until late Wednesday. Not ideal preparation. Similarly, Exeter won’t know until later today who they are playing next Saturday and where until later today. Obviously not the same distance issue, but it illustrates the piss-poor organisation at the crunch end of the competition, which hasn’t been kind to the Saffer sides.

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                  The traveling factor could be pointed out for the Sharks as well. They were just trailing by 6 points at the 68th minute (26 - 20) but they conceded 28 points (4 converted tries) during the last 12 minutes. They arrived on Wednesday in Toulouse after a flight in economy class that included four stopovers.

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                  • C cgrant

                    The traveling factor could be pointed out for the Sharks as well. They were just trailing by 6 points at the 68th minute (26 - 20) but they conceded 28 points (4 converted tries) during the last 12 minutes. They arrived on Wednesday in Toulouse after a flight in economy class that included four stopovers.

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                    @cgrant said in NH club rugby:

                    They arrived on Wednesday in Toulouse after a flight in economy class that included four stopovers.

                    Where were they coming from? They've done extremely well to find that many stopovers when it should only be two from Durban.

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @cgrant said in NH club rugby:

                      They arrived on Wednesday in Toulouse after a flight in economy class that included four stopovers.

                      Where were they coming from? They've done extremely well to find that many stopovers when it should only be two from Durban.

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                      @Bones said in NH club rugby:

                      @cgrant said in NH club rugby:

                      They arrived on Wednesday in Toulouse after a flight in economy class that included four stopovers.

                      Where were they coming from? They've done extremely well to find that many stopovers when it should only be two from Durban.

                      The Rand doesn’t go very far these days 😀

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        @cgrant said in NH club rugby:

                        They arrived on Wednesday in Toulouse after a flight in economy class that included four stopovers.

                        Where were they coming from? They've done extremely well to find that many stopovers when it should only be two from Durban.

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                        @Bones The detailed flight was not revealed by Midi Olympique. Moreover, they had to travel in two different groups of players which did not reach Toulouse at the same time. Yannick Bru, a former Toulouse player and assistant coach who is now within the Sharks staff, said that nobody complained, adding that Saffas are humble people and not overly spoilt stars.

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                        • C cgrant

                          @Bones The detailed flight was not revealed by Midi Olympique. Moreover, they had to travel in two different groups of players which did not reach Toulouse at the same time. Yannick Bru, a former Toulouse player and assistant coach who is now within the Sharks staff, said that nobody complained, adding that Saffas are humble people and not overly spoilt stars.

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                          @cgrant said in NH club rugby:

                          @Bones The detailed flight was not revealed by Midi Olympique. Moreover, they had to travel in two different groups of players which did not reach Toulouse at the same time. Yannick Bru, a former Toulouse player and assistant coach who is now within the Sharks staff, said that nobody complained, adding that Saffas are humble people and not overly spoilt stars.

                          Yeah the complaints and whinging is all from the so called fans

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                            https://www.leinsterrugby.ie/jacques-nienaber-to-join-leinster-rugby/

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                              Respect

                              https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/65266351?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA

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                                https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/12wokzi/coach_fight/

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                                  I was expecting French semi pro. That coach is a saffa. The other guy a pom.

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                                  • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                    https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/12wokzi/coach_fight/

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                                    @Daffy-Jaffy said in NH club rugby:

                                    https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/12wokzi/coach_fight/

                                    Bitch fight

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                                    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                      @Daffy-Jaffy said in NH club rugby:

                                      https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/12wokzi/coach_fight/

                                      Bitch fight

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                                      Bones
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                                      @MiketheSnow the big guy looks like he's usually relied on his size meaning he's never had to actually fight.

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @MiketheSnow the big guy looks like he's usually relied on his size meaning he's never had to actually fight.

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                                        @Bones said in NH club rugby:

                                        @MiketheSnow the big guy looks like he's usually relied on his size meaning he's never had to actually fight.

                                        I dunno, that slap might have hurt a small child.

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                                          Oops

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